AF Sasuke & AF Naruto vs JJ Madara

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These are the theoretical Rikudo Chakra-less versions of Gaiden Naruto & Sasuke

Think of it like if they lost Hagoromo's chakra but kept the actual buffs and abilities. Both of their avatars (BM for Naruro) avatars get scaled to Madara's PS in strength and durability. Naruto can use BSM on top of this, for the sake of consistency we'll assume the Rinnegan gives Sasuke a proportionate boost too BSM. Lower versions of Sasuke's Susano'O get Madara's feats

Sasuke keeps Ameno, Black Chidori, as well as the wings on his PS and gets scaled down Rinnegan jutsu as well as any feats by Nagato, Obito, or non JJ Madara. While Naruto keeps the Biju elements, flying, BD + FRS (can only be used in Avatar), and Hokage Naruto cloak Control.

Both can be scaled for natural progression over the years

Conditions: Madara has one Rinnegan and hasn't absorbed the Shinju. Sasuke's Rinnegan allows him the ability to bypass Onmyoton

Location: OG Naruto and Sasuke vs Madara

Done warming up yet?:Madara starts the match of the same, but can absorb the Shinju which is added to the battlefield if he gains the chance

Naruto/Sasuke must die: Madara starts with the Shinju absorbed, Zetsu shows up with his second Rinnegan after 3 minutes

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Madara stomp adult or not they would clock out around Ems madara with kurama level or above but they're still no where near juubi Jin level.
 

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They can beat JJ Madara w/o his other eye and the Shinju. His only chance is to try and get BD off, but when Sasuke can teleport to other dimensions/other areas on the field and has the power to neutralize the tree, that probably won't happen. Madara can't threaten them together in any way, shape or form.

Immortality would give him the win in S2, but Naruto and Sasuke have the Bijuu, so they might be able to rip the juubi from him.

He shits in S3 tho. 3 min ain't enough.
 

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They can beat JJ Madara w/o his other eye and the Shinju. His only chance is to try and get BD off, but when Sasuke can teleport to other dimensions/other areas on the field and has the power to neutralize the tree, that probably won't happen. Madara can't threaten them together in any way, shape or form.

Immortality would give him the win in S2, but Naruto and Sasuke have the Bijuu, so they might be able to rip the juubi from him.

He shits in S3 tho. 3 min ain't enough.

Imo they can win 1, but should lose the other two unless they're able to prevent him from snatching power ups
 

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So neither Naruto or Sasuke have Rikudō Chakra?

Then if that's the case he takes all rounds.

Scenario One beats them Mid-Difficulty and I think that's pushing it.

With the Shinju absorbed he wins Low-Difficulty and both Rinnegan he negs.
 

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The Shinju power up adds nothing that'd help him win.

you said shinju can defeat Toneri by attacking him all at once how can it not defeat slower less destructive people?
 
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