Adult Sasuke vs VOTE II Sasuke

[Glad Of War]

Hmmm.. I'm sticking with Bijuu Sasuke here mainly because, Adult Sasuke even with mastery of Rinnegan wouldn't do much against an overpowered Indra/Bijuu Enhance perfect Susanoo.

Inb4 Preta path wouldn't do much either.​

 

[KidGamer65]

2 years after the series ended, Sasuke's Chidori grew from

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level, to a level where it could bust Hokage Mountain Sized Rocks, hell, it vaporized that rock. Again, that was only 2 years, imagine how powerful Sasuke would be after 15 years. Bijuu Chakra or no Bijuu Chakra, Adult Sasuke beats him. This is one of those match ups where looking at strictly feats makes no sense because:

1. Adult Sasuke has no feats.

2. Had The Last not come out and had Sasuke not shown his power, people would be saying that he's basically equal with his VoTE self (Minus Bijuu) even though he clearly isn't.

It'd be ridiculous to think that Adult Sasuke would lose to himself from 15 years ago anyway. But hey, whatever floats you people's boats.

 

[RedRobin]

2 years after the series ended, Sasuke's Chidori grew from

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level, to a level where it could bust Hokage Mountain Sized Rocks, hell, it vaporized that rock. Again, that was only 2 years, imagine how powerful Sasuke would be after 15 years. Bijuu Chakra or no Bijuu Chakra, Adult Sasuke beats him. This is one of those match ups where looking at strictly feats makes no sense because:

1. Adult Sasuke has no feats.

2. Had The Last not come out and had Sasuke not shown his power, people would be saying that he's basically equal with his VoTE self (Minus Bijuu) even though he clearly isn't.

It'd be ridiculous to think that Adult Sasuke would lose to himself from 15 years ago anyway. But hey, whatever floats you people's boats.

With Bijuu chakra the match is super close. Yeah 15 years but he has one hand and the other has chakra from the 9 tailed beasts, that changes things big time IMO.

What Adult Sasuke has with experience VOTE Sasuke makes up with sheer power.

 

[KidGamer65]

With Bijuu chakra the match is super close. Yeah 15 years but he has one hand and the other has chakra from the 9 tailed beasts, that changes things big time IMO.

What Adult Sasuke has with experience VOTE Sasuke has with sheer power.

He had some of the Bijuu's Chakra, not all of it. That's an important thing to note. Then there is the fact that his Chidori increased by at least 2x, probably more given that Meteor stunt, and that was only 2 years. Increase that to 15 years, and transfer a similar boost to the rest of Sasuke's abilities, including his Susanoo.

VoTE II Sasuke doesn't stand a chance.

 

[RedRobin]

He had some of the Bijuu's Chakra, not all of it. That's an important thing to note. Then there is the fact that his Chidori increased by at least 2x, probably more given that Meteor stunt, and that was only 2 years. Increase that to 15 years, and transfer a similar boost to the rest of Sasuke's abilities, including his Susanoo.

VoTE II Sasuke doesn't stand a chance.

Even some of that Bijuu chakra is more than what Sasuke's reserves would have grown to in the future.

Vote II Sasuke just has much more destructive power due to that added addition of Bijuu chakra.

It really doesnt say anything bad about Sasuke's ability. Adult Sasuke obviously destroys Vote II Sasuke without Bijuu chakra.

 

[KidGamer65]

Even some of that Bijuu chakra is more than what Sasuke's reserves would have grown to in the future.

Except Sasuke's reserves in the future doesn't equate his strength. Amount of chakra=/=Power. His Power goes up by his chakra getting stronger, not larger. So it doesn't matter if the Bijuu Chakra he took is more than what his reserves would have grown to.


Even then that's not likely since Sasuke has half of Hagoromo's Chakra, and even people like Ay and Tsunade have chakra comparable to Bijuu, and Tsunade's chakra was stated to be a mere portion, or at least nowhere near compared to that of Hashirama's. Hagoromo has way way more chakra than the Bijuu, and Sasuke has half of that.

Vote II Sasuke just has much more destructive power due to that added addition of Bijuu chakra.

Nope.

It really doesnt say anything bad about Sasuke's ability. Adult Sasuke obviously destroys Vote II Sasuke without Bijuu chakra.

Well, of course he would. He'd beat him with it too.

 

[RedRobin]

Except Sasuke's reserves in the future doesn't equate his strength. Amount of chakra=/=Power. His Power goes up by his chakra getting stronger, not larger. So it doesn't matter if the Bijuu Chakra he took is more than what his reserves would have grown to.


Even then that's not likely since Sasuke has half of Hagoromo's Chakra, and even people like Ay and Tsunade have chakra comparable to Bijuu, and Tsunade's chakra was stated to be a mere portion, or at least nowhere near compared to that of Hashirama's. Hagoromo has way way more chakra than the Bijuu, and Sasuke has half of that.



Nope.



Well, of course he would. He'd beat him with it too.

Hago took his chakra back though. The seals went back to Hago. The seals contained his chakra which he gave to the boys.

So you would say the amount of power Sasuke's chakra gained in 15 years is bigger than that sum of chakra he got from the Bijuu?

 

[KidGamer65]

Hago took his chakra back though. The seals went back to Hago. The seals contained his chakra which he gave to the boys.

The seals and the chakra were independent. Naruto's mode only comes about because he has Hagoromo's Chakra. If he lost it, then he'd lose RSM and revert back to BSM. But he kept RSM after losing the seal, so he kept the chakra.

So you would say the amount of power Sasuke's chakra gained in 15 years is bigger than that sum of chakra he got from the Bijuu?

Power of Chakra and Amount of Chakra isn't measured the same way, so I can't really answer that question. Is his chakra stronger? Yes, Hagoromo's Chakra>Bijuu's Chakra when it comes to strength. Is it larger than the portion of Bijuu chakra he got? Most likely given he got half of Hagoromo's chakra, and that amount will just go up as he gets older.

 

[RedRobin]

The seals and the chakra were independent. Naruto's mode only comes about because he has Hagoromo's Chakra. If he lost it, then he'd lose RSM and revert back to BSM. But he kept RSM after losing the seal, so he kept the chakra.



Power of Chakra and Amount of Chakra isn't measured the same way, so I can't really answer that question. Is his chakra stronger? Yes, Hagoromo's Chakra>Bijuu's Chakra when it comes to strength. Is it larger than the portion of Bijuu chakra he got? Most likely given he got half of Hagoromo's chakra, and that amount will just go up as he gets older.

I look at it differently, I think they gained their power ups on their own while Hago just gave them the seals. They each in their own way gained Hago's power but a very tiny bit of it. Enough for Naruto's mode and enough for Sasuke's rinnegan.

No I am talking about the power of the chakra. Was Sasuke's chakra able to make up for what he get from the bijuu's in 15 years?

 

[KidGamer65]

I look at it differently, I think they gained their power ups on their own while Hago just gave them the seals. They each in their own way gained Hago's power but a very tiny bit of it. Enough for Naruto's mode and enough for Sasuke's rinnegan.

Nah. Hagoromo already stated that

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. (To Naruto and Sasuke) Meaning that they didn't get those powers on their own, and that they didn't get a little bit of Hagoromo's power. They each got half of his total chakra. Naruto's half changed his Sage Mode to Six Path's Sage Mode, and Sasuke's half gave him the Rinnegan.

No I am talking about the power of the chakra. Was Sasuke's chakra able to make up for what he get from the bijuu's in 15 years?

Oh, my bad. I believe so.

 

[RedRobin]

Nah. Hagoromo already stated that

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. (To Naruto and Sasuke) Meaning that they didn't get those powers on their own, and that they didn't get a little bit of Hagoromo's power. They each got half of his total chakra. Naruto's half changed his Sage Mode to Six Path's Sage Mode, and Sasuke's half gave him the Rinnegan.



Oh, my bad. I believe so.

I know they got half, that half being in the seals as Kaguya sees the

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around their hands. The tiny bit would be Naruto having tiny bits of all the bijuu while Sasuke's Indra and Hashirama's Ashura chakra mixing. They both have small versions of Hago's chakra.

 

[KidGamer65]

I know they got half, that half being in the seals as Kaguya sees the

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around their hands. The tiny bit would be Naruto having tiny bits of all the bijuu while Sasuke's Indra and Hashirama's Ashura chakra mixing. They both have small versions of Hago's chakra.

Nope. The seals having an aura=/=The seals having all of Hagoromo's donated chakra in them, especially since once again, Naruto and Sasuke didn't lose that chakra, otherwise Naruto would have no RSM.

9 separated Bijuu don't give you Hagoromo's Chakra. 9 Separated Bijuu are not the Juubi, which does give you Rikudo Chakra. Also, Hashirama wasn't Ashura's reincarnation at the time, so there is no way Sasuke got his power from mixing Indra and Ashura's chakras.

 

[RedRobin]

Nope. The seals having an aura=/=The seals having all of Hagoromo's donated chakra in them, especially since once again, Naruto and Sasuke didn't lose that chakra, otherwise Naruto would have no RSM.

9 separated Bijuu don't give you Hagoromo's Chakra. 9 Separated Bijuu are not the Juubi, which does give you Rikudo Chakra. Also, Hashirama wasn't Ashura's reincarnation at the time, so there is no way Sasuke got his power from mixing Indra and Ashura's chakras.

He still has a tiny bit of Bijuu chakra in him so there is no reason for him to not have RSM. This is shown when Hago tells him he is the meeting place of the Bijuu. Plus it only makes sense that you would need that giant amount of chakra like Hago's to preform CT seal on Kaguya.

The Juubi was able to appear with a tiny bit of 9 and 8 tails chakra, all you need is a tiny bit of each piece. Naruto had 7 from when he learned their names, then to revive him Obito gave him a tiny bit of the Shukaku and little Hachibi. Hashirama will forever have special chakra with a little Ashura in it or else

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wouldnt have happened.

 

[King Of Pop]

Adult sasuke wins.

 

[KidGamer65]

He still has a tiny bit of Bijuu chakra in him so there is no reason for him to not have RSM. This is shown when Hago tells him he is the meeting place of the Bijuu. Plus it only makes sense that you would need that giant amount of chakra like Hago's to preform CT seal on Kaguya.

RSM doesn't come about by having Bijuu Chakra, so it doesn't matter. If you don't have Hagoromo's Chakra, you can't use Six Path's Sage Mode. I don't know who told you that it came about from having all the Bijuu, but it doesn't.

@bold: Doesn't mean that they used all that chakra up. Many jutsu require large chakra amounts, does that mean when they use that chakra it's gone for ever.

The Juubi was able to appear with a tiny bit of 9 and 8 tails chakra, all you need is a tiny bit of each piece. Naruto had 7 from when he learned their names, then to revive him Obito gave him a tiny bit of the Shukaku and little Hachibi. Hashirama will forever have special chakra with a little Ashura in it or else

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wouldnt have happened.

So? Does that mean that Naruto had the Juubi inside him? Nope.

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I don't know about you, but that's clearly not the Juubi. Those are the 9 Bijuu. Having the 9 Bijuu inside of you is not the same thing as having the bijuu inside of you as the Juubi is the merged form of the 9 Bijuu.

Nope. Madara already took Indra and Ashura's chakra for himself to make Hagoromo's chakra, the Rinnegan. Only reason he still had Ashura's Chakra in him.

 

[-Akuma-]

Bijuu>Rinnengan mastery, Vote 2 Saauke wins.

 

[Zee U]

The Last Sasuke is way stronger than his past self (his Chidori in base form destroyed a meteor bigger than the Hokage mountain, and that thing is atleast 8 kilometers long basing it off this image

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. Scale that to his Susanoo and you get the idea), Epilogue Sasuke is on a whole another level.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

VOTE 2 Sasuke.

 

[Omar19992010]

Let's revive this thread

 

[KeyofDestiny]

Welp. VoTe 2 Sasuke wins. Since he's arguably weaker than he was in The Last, there's no way he'll defeat himself with the Bijuu buff.

VoTe 2 Sasuke>The Last Sasuke>Adult Sasuke.