Adult Sakura Vs Adult Chojuro

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I honestly cannot see how sakura gets past hidden mist silent killing combo however that slug makes it very hard for chojjro

 

[Made in Heaven]

The panel you provided demonstrate exact opposite of your words... why did you even bother? It shows Tsunade wasn't even in a hurry but trying to revive kage's alongside.

Same argument as 123Fire, so here's the same response:

Tsunade is barely alive due to her Senju-Uzumaki lineage. Sakura couldn't stay awake from a collision with a bridge. Draw your own conclusion from this information.

 

[Melanin]

Bisecting a body is meaningless, ineffective damage. Should I laugh?

Yes you should lol

He dodged an attack from Kinshiki, far better speed than anything Sakura has done

False, Sakura dodged or evaded Kaguya's "super fast" chakra hand close range (less then 5 meters perhaps) almost instanously. Chojuro hasn't shown that kind of spewed point blank.

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Sakura gets bisected mid air by Chojuro's sword beam if she jumps.

The only way this would happen is of Sakura stood in place or did a low jump with zero effort.

Sakura isn't blitzing Chojuro who dodged an attack from Kinshiki.

Again, Sakura dodged Kaguya's "super fast" (Naruto's words) chakra arm which is a formidable feat compared to Chojuro evading Kinshiki's attack so that one feat alone (Chojuro's) isn't proof enough to that his faster. Mind you.... Sakura out maneuvered a Multi MS user and took him down instantly, she also was able to keep up with that same person (MS who has precog) in cqc, Chojuro doesn't have a feat to compare.

 

[Team7monaa]

The same old response from LB, Chojuro’s only feats come from him attacking the weakest Akatsuki member whilst he was distracted by the 9-tails jinchuriki, there’s no point in arguing. Sakura snaps his sword and pummels him, Chojuro can’t do crap without that thing and if Sakura just so manages to grapple it, he’s gone.

 

[Avani]

The circumstances have nothing to do with the damage done.

LOL LOL then in that case - Sakura's hit broke Kaguya's horn and got her sealed. According to you circumstances and contribution of the others be dammed.

Question here is could chojuro do so if he was fighting BZ one on one? We don't know but it wouldn't have been easy seeing how BZ could move despite it . So it cannot be taken for granted.

The argument here is that Chojuro can bisect Sakura, not whether his bisection of Black Zetsu was a surprise/sneak attack or not.

This is not an argument- it's your assumption since there is nothing to support your argument other than the fact that swords can cut. Chojuro cut aloevera. Yay!!

Black Zetsu is alive because he controls bodies, he is not the body.

Exactly. The body was Zetsu. It gets cut all the time.

Acid isn't faster than the man who forced Sasuke to use Ameno.

Acid is never fast or slow, sir. It's how you use it. Keep your distance and use Katsuya to spit it.

To dodge or build up momentum for her bunches.

Yawn. You wish she would when she does have other options.

Are we really talking about the half-dead Orochimaru who had to rely on Kabuto of all people in combat?

You are hyping up Chojuro's fight with BZ when BZ was actually fighting Naruto and Mei was also there. So you don't get to complain. Besides Katsuya was bold enough to threaten Oro even when Tsunade was lying in two pieces and still healing 4 other people along with her.

How would that work?

Propose something else then.

Dodging with his superior speed feats.

We haven't seen their respective speeds even. Is there some databook score which tells who jumps faster for sure? They didn't compete against each other ever. All you have are assumptions and certain narratives on how you think it must unfold. But there are multiple other scenarios.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

So we're gonna ignore the feat of Sakura dodging kaguya's ten-tails hand? She could clearly react and outpace it for several seconds. It was too fast even for naruto and sasuke. Sakura with byakugou will definitely react and obliterate him.

 

[Made in Heaven]

False, Sakura dodged or evaded Kaguya's "super fast" chakra hand

No she didn't dodge or evade it, she postponed being captured by it.

close range (less then 5 meters perhaps)

That hand isn't 5 meters away. Basic knowledge of perspective in comparison to the hand's size can help you understand this.

almost instanously.

You seem to use this word as loosely as you please.

The only way this would happen is of Sakura stood in place or did a low jump with zero effort.

Sakura has no ability to maneuver around while in mid air to avoid his sword beam

Again, Sakura dodged Kaguya's "super fast" (Naruto's words) chakra arm which is a formidable feat compared to Chojuro evading Kinshiki's attack so that one feat alone (Chojuro's) isn't proof enough to that his faster.

Mind you.... Sakura out maneuvered a Multi MS user and took him down instantly

With distractions. And I'm sure Avani will agree with me here since she was just arguing how Chojuro's feat against Black Zetsu is meaningless in terms of speed/reflexes since both cases have the opponent distracted.

she also was able to keep up with that same person (MS who has precog) in cqc Chojuro doesn't have a feat to compare.

Kinshiki was avoiding Sharingan Mode Sasuke's attacks, yet Chojuro still dodged his attack. Shin can't hold a candle to that.

Shin's base reflexes are non-existent nor are they even half as good as Kinshiki's.

you are not allowed to attack a mod reported

Where did I attack her?

 

[JStar King]

what is this suppose to prove? she healed herself after

Didn't she bit Karin soon after?

 

[Avani]

No she didn't dodge or evade it, she postponed being captured by it.

She was able to 'postpone' it after fighting for a long time and visiting other dimensions. Chojuro is not Kaguya nor that giant.

That hand isn't 5 meters away. Basic knowledge of perspective in comparison to the hand's size can help you understand this.

Chokuro is not as formidable as kaguya as far as I know. Kakashi dealt with 7 swordsmen on his own. This guy needed help of academy kids to deal with 6 noob swordsmen. ( you told us not to consider circumstances so don't try any ifs and buts here ).

Shin's base reflexes are non-existent nor are they even half as good as Kinshiki's.

But Chojuro was not facing kinishiki alone either nor he is Kinshiki himself.

 

[Made in Heaven]

LOL LOL then in that case - Sakura's hit broke Kaguya's horn and got her sealed. According to you circumstances and contribution of the others be dammed.

Missed the point, so I'll have to repeat myself.

1. I'm not arguing that this is a speed feat for Chojuro per say, even though Black Zetsu does compliment the speed of his attack.
2. what I am arguing is that Chojuro's attack can split Sakura.

Question here is could chojuro do so if he was fighting BZ one on one?

The Kage version of him can.

We don't know but it wouldn't have been easy seeing how BZ could move despite it . So it cannot be taken for granted.

Black Zetsu says he can't move the White Zetsu body he was possessing.

This is not an argument- it's your assumption since there is nothing to support your argument other than the fact that swords can cut. Chojuro cut aloevera. Yay!!

Chojuro cut the Divine Tree. Sakura has no durability feats to say she wouldn't get cut in half.

Acid is never fast or slow, sir. It's how you use it. Keep your distance and use Katsuya to spit it.

Sakura has no feats of using it effectively in combat, so we will have to rely on what we have seen in canon.

Yawn. You wish she would when she does have other options.

Like what?

You are hyping up Chojuro's fight with BZ when BZ was actually fighting Naruto and Mei was also there. So you don't get to complain.

No I'm not.

Besides Katsuya was bold enough to threaten Oro even when Tsunade was lying in two pieces and still healing 4 other people along with her.

Threatening means nothing.

We haven't seen their respective speeds even.

Chojuro dodged Kinshiki's assault.

Is there some databook score which tells who jumps faster for sure?

Why does jumping faster matter? And since when did jumping speed differentiate from normal running speed?

They didn't compete against each other ever. All you have are assumptions and certain narratives on how you think it must unfold. But there are multiple other scenarios.

It applies to both of us.

 

[Avani]

Didn't she bit Karin soon after?

To move things faster. She could have healed herself earlier if she didn't try to save other kages at the same time.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

This is really interesting match .

Lets face facts if Sakura is hit by this she is done :

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If she is hit and cut in half her Byakugou is useless , not because it can't heal damage but because Chojuro would not just simply stay and do nothing while she is regenerating . When she starts regenerating she is helpless for some time so Chojuro will simply strike again or simply cut her head.

This is all assuming she is actually hit.

So my answer on who wins depends on can Chojuro really perform Kirigakure no jutsu. If he can he wins, if not I am going with Sakura.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

The reason tsunade bit karin was because she was out of chakra and lifeforce.

 

[Made in Heaven]

She was able to 'postpone' it after fighting for a long time and visiting other dimensions.

Yin Seal heals her reserves. She says herself that she had no Chakra at all when Naruto was dying then regained enough to surpass a Rikudo Naruto Clone. And Sakura was not fighting for a long time, she was in the medic tents.

Not that this matters given others like Choji and Hinata also reacted to a stable version of the Juubi while Sakura's is against an unstable version.

Chojuro is not Kaguya nor that giant.

Why does this matter?

Kakashi dealt with 7 swordsmen on his own.

Happened in the past. We're talking about current Chojuro.

This guy needed help of academy kids to deal with 6 noob swordsmen. ( you told us not to consider circumstances so don't try any ifs and buts here ).

So you're just trolling now?

But Chojuro was not facing kinishiki alone either nor he is Kinshiki himself.

Kinshiki came charging at him and only him alone when Chojuro dodged the attack.

 

[neosmith500]

Chojuro should win super high diff.

-Physically he can easily keep up with her , Bone multilation was Fast enough to catch Kinshiki and he can release waves with each sword swing. Sakura can punch the air to block the waves until some slip through or retreat as she also has cover from the trees. She cant easily engage Chojuro and he cant easily engage her.

The environment makes it so Sakura cant do her full powered punch so smoothly and doing so would only clear the trees as Chojoru is fast enough to jump away while simultaneously forming two giant shields/hammers to block the debris. He can then use the smoke as he would the mist to appoach , similar to wat the Jubbi spawn did , only he would not make his presence known but instead launch waves of Bone crystals through the smoke which was fast enough to blitz Byakugan kinchiki.

-Full powered punch isn't the best idea for Sakura. Allowing Chojoru to set up the mist is just as bad. Her best bet at the start would be to use her body-flicker through the cover of trees dodging Bone crystals and trying to get close enough to use her shock-wave punch to stun him followed by a quick kill while he's dazed. But Chojuro would not allow that to happen when he can also retreat and use cover much better than her.

-He sets up the mist and Sakura either uses her pull powered punch to clear everything at once while hoping to kill him , or she tries to blow it away periodically with shockwave punches and waves which Chojuro can exploit to catch her with Crystals from a blind spot , using water clones as a diversion. Would be a nice fight but i see Chojuro takes it.

 

[Exaar]

False, Sakura dodged or evaded Kaguya's "super fast" chakra hand close range (less then 5 meters perhaps) almost instanously. Chojuro hasn't shown that kind of spewed point blank.

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Well there you have it folks, Teen Sakura reacted/Dodged something faster than something adult sasuke got pressured by

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Thus Adult sasuke is slower in terms of speed and reactions for getting preasured by something even slower than something teen sakura could react to and "dodge"

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[Mori Jin]

Really , you are reaching I can do the same with Sakura .

Sakura the woman that damaged Kaguya, the woman who could soar with shin who RSM Naruto and RinneganSasuke had trouble with? Plus she was able to tank a direct hit from a tbb in the novel. Sakura has a great deal of strength . Plus she doesn't even need to make contact to kill him, she can just punch the air and break all of his bones and his sword

Damaged her cause she was distracted, had nothing to do with her ability to fight opponents on that level. Nice try. Shin was fodder and had her cornered nearly killing her, Sasuke saved her. She sucker punched him the first time. Their "rematch" showed she was no match for him . Novel is filler. Stick to canon material. Yeah she does every person she faught she has made contact with. So fanfic and nonsense opinions then? Smh. Chojuro stills low diffs her easily .

 

[Melanin]

No she didn't dodge or evade it, she postponed being captured by it.

Just when I thought your logic couldn't more moronic, it does and never fails lol..... before I seat you, please come back to reality!

e·vade
əˈvād/Submit
verbe·vade
escape or avoid, especially by cleverness or trickery.

Dodge
däj/Submit
avoid (someone or something) by a sudden quick movement.
(2) move quickly to one side or out of the way.


If you can't see how the scan below doesn't apply to either definitions your a troll which I couldn't understand. You lose all common sense when it comes to Sakura and it's getting out of hand.

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[Made in Heaven]

Just when I thought your logic couldn't more moronic, it does and never fails lol..... before I seat you, please come back to reality!

e·vade
əˈvād/Submit
verbe·vade
escape or avoid, especially by cleverness or trickery.

Dodge
däj/Submit
avoid (someone or something) by a sudden quick movement.
(2) move quickly to one side or out of the way.

According to the definition, she didn't avoid or escape it, she was saved by Kakashi. Is this when I say "Concession accepted"?

And like I said to Avani, this doesn't matter given others like Choji and Hinata also reacted to a stable version of the Juubi while Sakura's is against an unstable version.

If you can't see how the scan below doesn't apply to either definitions your a troll which I couldn't understand. You lose all common sense when it comes to Sakura and it's getting out of hand.

Breath slowly and calm down.

 

[Avani]

Missed the point, so I'll have to repeat myself.

You didn't have one.

1. I'm not arguing that this is a speed feat for Chojuro per say, even though Black Zetsu does compliment the speed of his attack.

You did. Half your posts were about it. Come on..Don't deny so blatantly.

2. what I am arguing is that Chojuro's attack can split Sakura.

There is a difference between " can" and " will" .

The Kage version of him can.

Becoming Kage doesn't provide automatic power up. We saw Kage version of him needing help of academy students. While Non kage Kakashi beat the hell out of seven swordsmen.

Black Zetsu says he can't move the White Zetsu body he was possessing.

Because he pinned white Zetsu. But it's the same white Zetsu which Sakura incapacitated without any sword. Chojuro got luck that BZ didn't took over his body.

Chojuro cut the Divine Tree. Sakura has no durability feats to say she wouldn't get cut in half.

Trees get cut all the time... People fight back, move, run..

Sakura has no feats of using it effectively in combat, so we will have to rely on what we have seen in canon.

Sakura has fought though. Her punches were quite effective against Kaguya as well as Shin. And the ones against whom she fought lost, died or sealed for good. No half measures or temp restrictions.

Like what?

It's too complicated for you it seems.

No I'm not.

Yes you are. ( I don't even know what you are referring to by now since you break up post to make it a meaningless point.

Threatening means nothing.

It still shows it's no pushover.

Chojuro dodged Kinshiki's assault.

You seem to be using it as a mantra. Rest of the people in stadium dodged Kinshiki too. Come back when we get one sample of his one on fight with someone of caliber.

Why does jumping faster matter? And since when diding jumping speed differentiate from normal running speed?

Because you used their jumps like 142 or something times. So why should we not compare to see who would be out jumping other?

It applies to both of us.

Not really. I don't present my theories or speculations as facts. Same cannot be said about you.