Adult Naruto's Taijutsu should be refined, but on what level is he?

[NextGenNinja]

At BOLD, uhmm no. Momoshiki was able to casually split the god-tree by just flexing his chakra. If that isn't an indication of his massive strength, I don't know what is.

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Additionally, I get that you might be making reference to Momoshiki physical strength. If that's the case, by adding it didn't change Base or RSM, it makes your logic terrible. Simple reason. Upon limiting your reference to Momoshiki physical strength, I'll assume his other capabilities is above Naruto's, meaning his speed, chakra quantity, should be above Naruto's. Problem though. The fact Naruto was able to keep up with him, advances the suggestion that his speed was similar to him. This conclusion contradicts yours, which claimed his battle against amped Momoshiki didn't change his power, when in factuality it implies part of Naruto's power was registered greater than before since speed is among the subdivisions of power.

Are you saying base naruto= Momoshiki in speed?

 

[Glad Of War]

Are you saying base naruto= Momoshiki in speed?

Not really.

Proportional to would be fitting.

 

[KidGamer65]

At BOLD, uhmm no. Momoshiki was able to casually split the god-tree by just flexing his chakra. If that isn't an indication of his massive strength, I don't know what is.

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Additionally, I get that you might be making reference to Momoshiki physical strength. If that's the case, by adding it didn't change Base or RSM, it makes your logic terrible. Simple reason. Upon limiting your reference to Momoshiki physical strength, I'll assume his other capabilities is above Naruto's, meaning his speed, chakra quantity, should be above Naruto's. Problem though. The fact Naruto was able to keep up with him, advances the suggestion that his speed was similar to him. This conclusion contradicts yours, which claimed his battle against amped Momoshiki didn't change his power, when in factuality it implies part of Naruto's power was registered greater than before since speed is among the subdivisions of power.

Did I say he was weak? Did I even say he was weaker overall? No, I said he was physically weaker than before. That wasn't a display of physical ability, that's his chakra. The rest of this post makes no sense. First of all where did I say only his physical strength dropped? "physically" refers to ALL physical abilities, and speed is one of them.

Then we have the fact that your post still doesn't make sense even if this little bit was valid, because Momoshiki was still whooping him. Their speed isn't similar. Momoshiki has the obvious and large advantage. If he didn't Naruto wouldn't be getting slapped at every corner.

 

[Michael]

Good enough to go head to head with Fused Momo even after losing massive amounts of Chakra.

Right, they trying to play my boy. Naruto taijutsu been pretty awesome since the last, even before.

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[Michael]

Out of those only Madara and Sasuke can contend with him, and even Madara would lose just because of his feats against Momoshiki. So out of that list the only one who would beat Naruto is Sasuke, and he'd do it easily at that.

There is a reason why the author never allowed Naruto to go against sasuke in cqc unless he was in base form. SM Naruto or higher would literally one-shot sasuke in taijutsu.

 

[KidGamer65]

There is a reason why the author never allowed Naruto to go against sasuke in cqc unless he was in base form. SM Naruto or higher would literally one-shot sasuke in taijutsu.

If this was Manga Sasuke and Manga Naruto then I'd agree, but Adult Sasuke is above Adult SM Naruto in hand to hand. Naruto needs to KCM to contend against him in hand to hand, and even higher if Sasuke is allowed to use weapons.

 

[Michael]

If this was Manga Sasuke and Manga Naruto then I'd agree, but Adult Sasuke is above Adult SM Naruto in hand to hand. Naruto needs to KCM to contend against him in hand to hand, and even higher if Sasuke is allowed to use weapons.

Well I always base my statements off the manga. Even the new author know whats up and did a superb job illustrating Naruto's physical power against enhanced momoshiki.

 

[NextGenNinja]

Not really.

Proportional to would be fitting.

So, you're saying Naruto is close to that level of speed? He really isn't, he can somewhat react to momoshiki's movements but that doesn't mean his own speed is close to Momoshiki's level. Naruto started out on the defensive, but Momoshiki increasingly overwhelmed him to the point where Naruto had to resort to RSM so he can catch Momo's wrist and to gain the advantage. If you don't believe there's a noticeable speed gap between them, notice how Momoshiki is fast enough to suddenly appear behind Naruto in this panel.

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Naruto only sees Momo's punch when he's in point-blank range, but he needed RSM to stop the punch.

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[Sageflash]

Naruto is the best CQC/taijutsu fighter in the world. Fact. Only 8 Gates Gai could challenge him, but that's no longer possible, so.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Naruto is the best CQC/taijutsu fighter in the world. Fact. Only 8 Gates Gai could challenge him, but that's no longer possible, so.

The fanfic.

 

[Greatness23]

He's not above Sasuke. Take sasukes sharngan away and he still tops Naruto in taijutsu. BUT, Naruto is easily still leagues above everybody else that was listed. And, please... stop saying sage mode puts him above everybody. It literally gives him extra punching power and what is essentially a temporary form of Sharingan pre-cog. It tis good, yes. But lets acknowledge that he did use sage mode like what, 3 times before Nagato finessed Hinata and the ninetails came out? Madara may give him some work too now that I think about it. Naruto's strong, too strong probably but HE HAS NEVER BEEN AND WILL NEVER BE A JACK OF ALL TRADES>

 

[Disaster]

sasuke>sasuke>hashirama>kakashi>naruto>minato

 

[kiiro]

Power>Those you metion
Skill << Those you mention.

In sage mode he is better, he defeated Raikage Third.

 

[Multiply]

Only one Naruto can't beat is Sasuke. Just common sense at this point.

 

[marksonm]

Well done to all these dudes but we should take a plane and go ask Kishimoto.

One thing to note is that Naruto's taijutsu is up there and among the best yet. Who among the Konoha 11 could best him... only Sasuke can go on par. Even Sasuke without his Sharingan is not that good. Sasuke is always using his sharingan, and if that is the can then everyone needs to include Naruto's other powers too. When they were kids Sasuke used his Sharingan at every fight and it was 3 tome which was higher than a 1 tail manifestation of Nine tails.
During their final Battle they started with taijutsu but Sasuke already had his sharingan and reningan on already. When it went off he should have killed Naruto with Taijutsu, but why couldn't he??? Answer is that Naruto can hold his own, even though he has been fighting without rest since he started training with Killer Bee to control the 9 tails till Obito, Madara, and Kaguya were vanquished and then he fought Sasuke on top and people say he can't hold his own? think about it again and understand that the guy is strong!!!

However, just to let y'all know that Taijutsu is also split into parts... Some people are fast but the attacking power is lower, while some are slower but attacking power once landed is devastating.

Taijutsu has several parts such as Speed, The strength of the body, Anticipation and power of attack. e.g. Without Sharingan and Susanoo, Sasuke cannot take as much damage as Naruto.

Sasuke = Speed and Anticipation
Naruto = Strength of body and power of attack
Sakura = Power of Attack (massive)

And so on; so please let's not say a person can't hold their own. To say such, you will need to dissect the components that make one a better taijutsu user and that is based on preferences and combination.

Greatest Taijutsu User remain the undisputed Guy Sensei as named by SO6P MADARA... i.e. speed, anticipation, power, and body strength.

 

[startup98]

Hiruzen solos

 

[WalksInShadows]

Naruto would straight up look like a white belt compared to at least a few of those guys.