Adult base Sasuke vs base Hashirama

[Dark Rasengan]

I think Sasuke takes it:

- speed enough to blitz
- can overwhelm Hashi in h2h combat
- bijuudama lvl Chidori > Mokujin or hotei
- Sasuke's chakra >> Hashi's

Do you agree ?

 

[Ambivalence]

I think you need to reread the manga if you believe either of those points.

Hashirama rapes.

 

[Prometheus 2000]

Biju Bomb level Chidori? Lol.

 

[DHOH]

I'm guess base Sasuke is A Sasuke that's not using Sharingan and Rinnegan but keeps Hagorom's chakra?

In that case, he blitz Hashirama.

 

[Dark Rasengan]

Biju Bomb level Chidori? Lol.

The one that obliterated a mountain size meteor and its explosion was half the size of the village. You are right.

 

[Eng nawashi]

The one that obliterated a mountain size meteor and its explosion was half the size of the village. You are right.

And 6th gates Lee with a little help from some 5th gates users can wreck mountains now.this is just a huge exaggeration from the animation of the movie . what is more funny is that chidori doesn't create explosions like BD .

 

[InfiniteMugen]

A "base" sasuke is much more restricted than base hashi, hashi mid diffs him....

 

[Dark Rasengan]

And 6th gates Lee with a little help from some 5th gates users can wreck mountains now.this is just a huge exaggeration from the animation of the movie . what is more funny is that chidori doesn't create explosions like BD .

> Lee with the help of 12 gated team only managed to split the meteor in half.
> Sasuke completely destroyed it without a trace and his Chidori made a village size explosion.
> Those animations are canon. And they must be treated as such.
> Chidori (and other Raiton techs belonged to Sasuke) were shown to explode in the manga.

 

[KidGamer65]

- speed enough to blitz
- can overwhelm Hashi in h2h combat
- bijuudama lvl Chidori > Mokujin or hotei
- Sasuke's chakra >> Hashi's

Number 1 is false, maybe. If he wants to blitz and kill Hashirama without the latter reacting he'll need to be faster (as in a good amount faster) than Juubito, which he is not unless we take Boruto movie feats into account, which you yourself have said are not canon.

Number 2 is true.

Number 3 is false. Having a Meteor vaporizing Chidori doesn't change the fact that he gets raped by Hashirama's base arsenal as a whole.

Number 4 is irrelevant.

Hashirama wins comfortably. Still has healing, and once Mokuton forests come out it's GG as Sasuke doesn't have the firepower to wipe them all out without Susanoo.

 

[Dark Rasengan]

Number 1 is false, maybe. If he wants to blitz and kill Hashirama without the latter reacting he'll need to be faster (as in a good amount faster) than Juubito, which he is not unless we take Boruto movie feats into account, which you yourself have said are not canon.

Number 2 is true.

Number 3 is false. Having a Meteor vaporizing Chidori doesn't change the fact that he gets raped by Hashirama's base arsenal as a whole.

Number 4 is irrelevant.

Hashirama wins comfortably. Still has healing, and once Mokuton forests come out it's GG as Sasuke doesn't have the firepower to wipe them all out without Susanoo.

Alright. I'll give you the first one.

No he doesn't get raped. Healing won't save him from decapitation or bisection.
Mokujin is the only thing worth mentioning. If his forests can't tank a base Rasengan barrage. It's not standing up to Sasuke's Chidori.
Chakra means Sasuke can spam his Raiton and Shunshin. And then super charge said Raiton to BD level.
Any feats from Mokujin to suggest it can tank a TBB+ level Raiton (but more focused ) ?

 

[Dark Rasengan]

Number 1 is false, maybe. If he wants to blitz and kill Hashirama without the latter reacting he'll need to be faster (as in a good amount faster) than Juubito, which he is not unless we take Boruto movie feats into account, which you yourself have said are not canon.

Number 2 is true.

Number 3 is false. Having a Meteor vaporizing Chidori doesn't change the fact that he gets raped by Hashirama's base arsenal as a whole.

Number 4 is irrelevant.

Hashirama wins comfortably. Still has healing, and once Mokuton forests come out it's GG as Sasuke doesn't have the firepower to wipe them all out without Susanoo.

Alright. I'll give you the first one.

No he doesn't get raped. Healing won't save him from decapitation or bisection.
Mokujin is the only thing worth mentioning. If his forests can't tank a base Rasengan barrage. It's not standing up to Sasuke's Chidori.
Chakra means Sasuke can spam his Raiton and Shunshin. And then super charge said Raiton to BD level.
Any feats from Mokujin to suggest it can tank a TBB+ level Raiton (but more focused ) ?

 

[KidGamer65]

Alright. I'll give you the first one.

No he doesn't get raped. Healing won't save him from decapitation or bisection.
Mokujin is the only thing worth mentioning. If his forests can't tank a base Rasengan barrage. It's not standing up to Sasuke's Chidori.
Chakra means Sasuke can spam his Raiton and Shunshin. And then super charge said Raiton to BD level.
Any feats from Mokujin to suggest it can tank a TBB+ level Raiton (but more focused ) ?

But will Sasuke ever be able to bisect or decapitate him? No.

No, it's not. You're using bad logic. Chidori isn't widespread enough to wreck an entire forest nor will what happened against the meteor happen here. The Meteor was a giant rock so it makes sense that Chidori would destroy it, but if Chidori hits one branch of a

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do you think every branch will explode? :lol I hope not.

If Sasuke tries to meet Jukai Kotan with Chidori he destroys what he can but the rest run him over. Hashirama uses Flower Tree World and then the pollens puts Sasuke to sleep and it's GG from there. Or Hotei (5 Hands) crush him. Can't destroy all 5 at once meanwhile all 5 can attack him at once.

Mokujin is irrelevant in this match. He doesn't even have any need or reason to use it here.

 

[Eng nawashi]

> Lee with the help of 12 gated team only managed to split the meteor in half.

They wrecked the bigger part of the original meteor .if they just split it in half like you claim and sasuke destroyed one half then who dealt with the other half !?
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> Sasuke completely destroyed it without a trace and his Chidori made a village size explosion.

Yeah that is what happened in the last movie and this is what being discussed here.

> Those animations are canon. And they must be treated as such

There is no movie that is completely canon from A to Z .even bourto movie ,which had been thought to be 100% canon even more than the last movie, has proved to not be completely canon.

> Chidori (and other Raiton techs belonged to Sasuke) were shown to explode in the manga.

Chidori has never created a blast like the one in the last movie.

 

[Logic1992]

And 6th gates Lee with a little help from some 5th gates users can wreck mountains now.this is just a huge exaggeration from the animation of the movie . what is more funny is that chidori doesn't create explosions like BD .

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[Eng nawashi]

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I don't see any blast that looks like an explosion of BD ,even if we ignored the blast part ,the feat is still obviously exaggerated just like the case with Lee and the others .

 

[DHOH]

Kishi called The Boruto the movie his finest work. To think it's not cannon is ridiculous.

I forgot about Hashirama still an make avatars but Summonings should help with that.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

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Itachi "The **** are you wearing"

Sasuke "Don't Judge"

 

[Ambivalence]

even bourto movie ,which had been thought to be 100% canon even more than the last movie, has proved to not be completely canon.

When was it ''proven'' to not be canon?

 

[Eng nawashi]

When was it ''proven'' to not be canon?

When the manga recton'd the final fight .there is no way boruto mangaka would change parts that was originally written by kishi himself not the studio .I also remember it was said that Kishi didnt interfere in the final fight of bourto movie and left it all to the studio.I amont saying bourto movie is completely not canon.I am saying that bourto movie is not completely canon ,I hope you see the difference .the parts of the movie that was changed in the manga most definitely can't be considered canon.

 

[Warlocks]

Sasuke's chakra >> Hashi's

nope not even close