[Discussion] Admiral level is a joke at this point

[bsims08]

Marco has proven to be on admiral level seeing as he fought multiple ones and was stated to be able to stop teach

 

[Zorø]

all I know is Sabo is Admiral lvl 2nd in the rev army I expect no less U_U,,,and you really think the 1st mate of the late strongest man in the world is not at least Admiral lvl?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Admirals are comparable to First Mates of Yonko crews.

Marco fought equal with Kizaru and the way Benn was portrayed. BB even before he ate Yami Yami fruit was strong enough to give Shanks scar.
Not to mention that Ace (while battle worn, and after being 'torturned) was able to counter one of strongest Admirals - Aokiji.
Sabo for know fight around equal with Fujitora. Jozu did lost to Aokiji but as I said Aokiji should be one of strongest admirals and he wasn't on guard.
Hancock seems pretty strong. Old Silvers also was able to fight equally with Kizaru. Silvers said that Luffy will be strong as Admiral when he finish training. Doflamingo seems comparable to an Admiral.

I'm not saying that all characters I listed above are Admiral levels, but I thinl that majority is and other are pretty close.

That's only because Fire has an elemental advantage over Ice. Replace Aokiji's attack with Yasakani no Magatama or Dai Funka and Ace would have died.

 

[Tomato God]

all i know is sabo is admiral lvl 2nd in the rev army i expect no less u_u,,,and you really think the 1st mate of the late strongest man in the world is not at least admiral lvl?

sabo aint shetttt.

 

[Chihaya]

Shanks > all of op

 

[Forbidden Tale]

That's only because Fire has an elemental advantage over Ice. Replace Aokiji's attack with Yasakani no Magatama or Dai Funka and Ace would have died.

Ice and Fire just cancel each other, so there is no elemental advantage. Elemental advantage is: Ice > Water, Water > Fire, Lava > Fire, Ice > Sand

 

[Tomato God]

Ice and Fire just cancel each other, so there is no elemental advantage. Elemental advantage is: Ice > Water, Water > Fire, Lava > Fire, Ice > Sand

Ice melts and then evaporates. Fire actually produces water in its combustion. The Ice turning into water isn't is as helpful as it seems.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Ice and Fire just cancel each other, so there is no elemental advantage. Elemental advantage is: Ice > Water, Water > Fire, Lava > Fire, Ice > Sand

Fire can reach the thousands in heat while Absolute Zero is at -273 degrees Celcius. Ace's fire is probably a few hundred degrees over 273, which is the temperature at which they would cancel out.

 

[Tomato God]

Fire can reach the thousands in heat while Absolute Zero is at -273 degrees Celcius. Ace's fire is probably a few hundred degrees over 273, which is the temperature at which they would cancel out.

Even without that A fire of that temperature would turn the ice from water straight into steam and then it's not helpful.
Ace HAS The advantage.

 

[Olorin]

Imo Admiral and Yonko is about the same, a lot depends on who you're talking about, other admiral level (or higher) are people like Dragon, Garp, Mihawk, Rayleigh and than you have the ones who are about admiral lvl but not quite there like the right hand men (Marco, Beckman or Sabo)

I also think there is noone in OPV who could less than high dif an admiral

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Ice melts and then evaporates. Fire actually produces water in its combustion. The Ice turning into water isn't is as helpful as it seems.

Fire > Ice. Than Ice turns into water. Water > Fire, Water "shut down" Fire, but Aokiji after that can't control Water (unlike Ice).. So, yeah it cancel each other.

 

[Bogard]

I also think there is noone in OPV who could less than high dif an admiral

I'm pretty certain Roger, Prime Garp, Prime Whitebeard, Prime Rayleigh, Shiki, End of serie Luffy, End of serie Teach and End of serie Zoro could defeat an admiral with less than high difficulty

 

[edward newgate]

Fujitora wasn't going all out and is still making sabo go all out. Sabo isn't on par with Fuji. Fuji is being merciful.

How the **** is Sabo going all out? Did you see a part of the fight which the rest of us haven't?

 

[Forbidden Tale]

I'm pretty certain Roger, Prime Garp, Prime Whitebeard, Prime Rayleigh, Shiki, End of serie Luffy, End of serie Teach and End of serie Zoro could defeat an admiral with less than high difficulty

Actually, to me it seems like Old Wb would defeat Akainu with less than high diff.

 

[Zorø]

Imo Admiral and Yonko is about the same, a lot depends on who you're talking about, other admiral level (or higher) are people like Dragon, Garp, Mihawk, Rayleigh and than you have the ones who are about admiral lvl but not quite there like the right hand men (Marco, Beckman or Sabo)

I also think there is noone in OPV who could less than high dif an admiral

Whitebeard GG Shanks GG Dragon GG Garp GG.

 

[Bogard]

Actually, to me it seems like Old Wb would defeat Akainu with less than high diff.

No, i think he would win high difficulty when fresh, not less than that, but maybe he could mid diff an admiral like Fujitora, not sure. Depends on Fujitora's real strength. Hype-wise he shouldn't though

Whitebeard GG Shanks GG Dragon GG Garp GG.

Shanks can't and for Dragon it's a maybe

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Fire can reach the thousands in heat while Absolute Zero is at -273 degrees Celcius. Ace's fire is probably a few hundred degrees over 273, which is the temperature at which they would cancel out.

Very unlikely from my point of view that it is even 273 degrees.

If it's few hundred drgrees over 273, not just that ice would be melted, but people around him as well (I think.)

Not to mention that Luffy is rubber and rubber melts from 98 - 175 degrees celcius (depend of type), so Luffy who was close, would be melted. :hint

 

[Olorin]

Whitebeard GG Shanks GG Dragon GG Garp GG.

I'm pretty certain Roger, Prime Garp, Prime Whitebeard, Prime Rayleigh, Shiki, End of serie Luffy, End of serie Teach and End of serie Zoro could defeat an admiral with less than high difficulty

a gentleman's disagreement XD I know I could be wrong, I simply posted the impression I have after 11 years of OP

 

[Ridoku X]

IMO there are Yonko and Admirals at different power levels. Same with VAs. So we can have individuals who can range from low to high(est) of levels.

For example, I disagree that people like Sabo,Doffy,Marco and Jozu aren't admiral level. They are all low to mid admiral level to me. Sabo who is supposed to be a low-mid admiral level fighter is currently struggling with Fujitora, who is easily mid-high admiral level, that's why the fight is going Fujitora's way.


Also, I don't like the "yonko" power level. Admirals can be as strong, or even stronger than some Yonkos. Yonko is just a title. Not a power level to me. v_v

I mean we get tangled up with all these levels at the end. We've got Vice admiral level, Admiral level, Fleet admiral level , Yonko level blah blah blah. BS v_v It should end at about admiral level.

 

[ChrisWolf]

Shanks > all of op

we haven't even seen anything of shanks.....not really......

anyway although your post isn't completely accurate I agree for the most part people are putting op characters on admiral level that don't belong. Only the yonko's could be considered admiral level and certainly not any of the Shichbukai, wb was of course and although we haven't seen much of him (same goes for shanks and dragon who could both be admiral level) I would say garp could be as well.