[VS] Ace vs Urouge

[Passerby]

Who wins

Hype says Urouge negs

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[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Imma say ace idk how soloing a Yonko commander puts him above every yonko commander ... by that logic he's >Marco jozu vista jack and cracker... oh wait that's not right he got defeated by cracker:|

Yeah gonna go with ace and his hype of being division 2 commander training under whitebeard for period of time and being gold d Rodgers son (as u can see liniage does play a slight part in hype look at all the d's the weakest one is a vice admiral and strongest being garp then u have dragon law and Luffy.. so yeah I think being Rodgers son means something lol)

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Imma say ace idk how soloing a Yonko commander puts him above every yonko commander ... by that logic he's >Marco jozu vista jack and cracker... oh wait that's not right he got defeated by cracker:|

Yeah gonna go with ace and his hype of being division 2 commander training under whitebeard for period of time and being gold d Rodgers son (as u can see liniage does play a slight part in hype look at all the d's the weakest one is a vice admiral and strongest being garp then u have dragon law and Luffy.. so yeah I think being Rodgers son means something lol)

1. Division number doesn't equal strength ranking in the WB Pirates. You should have heard this by now, so idk why you're saying this.
2. The Sweet Commander Urouge beat was likely the Ace of the BM Pirates (aka the 4th strongest commander), so it's likely that Urouge is >= Ace.

 

[Passerby]

Imma say ace idk how soloing a Yonko commander puts him above every yonko commander ... by that logic he's >Marco jozu vista jack and cracker... oh wait that's not right he got defeated by cracker:|

Yeah gonna go with ace and his hype of being division 2 commander training under whitebeard for period of time and being gold d Rodgers son (as u can see liniage does play a slight part in hype look at all the d's the weakest one is a vice admiral and strongest being garp then u have dragon law and Luffy.. so yeah I think being Rodgers son means something lol)

But Ace is weaker than all of those guys as well...
And what does him the 2nd comander have to do with anything? Unlike most second commanders Ace wasnt the 2nd strongest but he was the 4th strongest

 

[Unorthodox]

Ace loses he was weak for real he suffer from pre timeskip haki.

 

[OG sama]

Ace loses, I think it was pretty obvious what Oda was trying to convey when he had Urouge beat the fourth strongest commander and then he had Luffy beat the third.

 

[Unorthodox]

Ace loses, I think it was pretty obvious what Oda was trying to convey when he had Urouge beat the fourth strongest commander and then he had Luffy beat the third.

But how does that tie in to Ace?

 

[MasqueradeNX]

Urouge wins

 

[chopstickchakra]

Who wins

Hype says Urouge negs

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It never said he solo'd BMs Sweet Commander just that he took one down. The fact that others were there and defeated pretty much states he didn't solo them though.

1. Division number doesn't equal strength ranking in the WB Pirates. You should have heard this by now, so idk why you're saying this.
2. The Sweet Commander Urouge beat was likely the Ace of the BM Pirates (aka the 4th strongest commander), so it's likely that Urouge is >= Ace.

So all Yonkou commanders are equal if they're in equal seatings? Don't recall reading that in the manga.

OT: It's hard to say since we don't really know yet what it takes to put Urogue down, his power is converting damage to strength(he's a bit like OP's Hulk) we don't know how much power would be needed to overload that ability and KO him, we don't know if the converted damage is still felt and represented or completely removed(If you break his arm and he converts that to strength does his arm heal or stay broken? We don't know)

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

It never said he solo'd BMs Sweet Commander just that he took one down. The fact that others were there and defeated pretty much states he didn't solo them though.



So all Yonkou commanders are equal if they're in equal seatings? Don't recall reading that in the manga.

OT: It's hard to say since we don't really know yet what it takes to put Urogue down, his power is converting damage to strength(he's a bit like OP's Hulk) we don't know how much power would be needed to overload that ability and KO him, we don't know if the converted damage is still felt and represented or completely removed(If you break his arm and he converts that to strength does his arm heal or stay broken? We don't know)

No, but they should be close in power to each other.

 

[chopstickchakra]

No, but they should be close in power to each other.

I'll give you that but just because Urogue beat a different Yonkous 4th seat doesn't mean he could beat someone who happens to be a yonkou's 4th seat. Idk who would actually win, I'd like to believe Ace is capable of more than most seem to assume but at the same time until we see more from Urogue I'm not entirely sure he can be beat off of power/strength I think it would take some kind of trick or entrapment to defeat him in a battle, that or a clear wide gap in strength.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

But Ace is weaker than all of those guys as well...
And what does him the 2nd comander have to do with anything? Unlike most second commanders Ace wasnt the 2nd strongest but he was the 4th strongest

No not pointing out the number pointing out the fact that ace had same ranking as cracker and the unnamed person he heaven guy defeated

Yet he wasn't able to defeat cracker .... meaning the positions varies ... so there for we cannot say the heaven guy would beat ace cuz he defeated another commander of a yonko... especially with the person your comparing him to (ace) holds the same ranking as the person who defeated him (cracker)

 

[OG sama]

But how does that tie in to Ace?

Ace was WBs 4th strongest commander. Its like this:

Marco
Jozu
Vista
Ace

In Big Moms crew I imagine its similar and the commanders are roughly on par with WBs

1. Minister of Candy
2. Minister of Nuts
3. Minister of Crackers
4. Unknown Minister.

 

[OG sama]

No not pointing out the number pointing out the fact that ace had same ranking as cracker and the unnamed person he heaven guy defeated

Yet he wasn't able to defeat cracker .... meaning the positions varies ... so there for we cannot say the heaven guy would beat ace cuz he defeated another commander of a yonko... especially with the person your comparing him to (ace) holds the same ranking as the person who defeated him (cracker)

The rank doesn't matter, we all know Ace is the 4th strongest WB commander whereas Cracker is a Top 3 Sweet Commander. Based off this Cracker should be comparable in power to Marco/Jozu/Vista.

 

[-Akuma-]

Ace loses he was weak for real he suffer from pre timeskip haki.

N**a what?

I guess Akainu was weak for suffering from pre-time skip haki.

OT: Ace wins probably on the ower end of high-dif.

 

[-Akuma-]

The rank doesn't matter, we all know Ace is the 4th strongest WB commander whereas Cracker is a Top 3 Sweet Commander. Based off this Cracker should be comparable in power to Marco/Jozu/Vista.

Cracker isn't comparable to them....Stop it.

 

[OG sama]

Cracker isn't comparable to them....Stop it.

How? Because he lost to G4 tankman Luffy and Nami exploiting his weakness?

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

Ace is overrated. People try and justify his strength by saying he was a Commander of WB.

 

[ToshiZO]

Ace > Vista.

Urouge beating the 4th commander likely means he can beat Vista, not sure about Ace.

 

[Wrappering_]

Ace faced off against Aokiji and was more than a match for him; there's no way some fat monk would be a problem for the FireFist.