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I see a lot of people saying Sasuke has borrowed powers due to Sasuke using Itachi eyes, but there one problem Uchiha needs to transplant other eyes otherwise they are blind when they have Mangekyou sharingan.

If anyone complains about Sasuke using Itachi sharingan for EMS, then basically they have to complain about the entire Uchiha clan since any Uchiha who gains Mangekyou sharingan are destined to go blind unless they transplant their brother or sister eyes.

Uchiha transplanting brother or sister eyes is in their genes so there nothing unnatural about transplanting other eyes. Uchiha gaining EMS is as natural as Hashirama using Mokuton, Kimimaro using his bone jutsu, the old kage who use Jinton etc.
 

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No, no one needs to complain about the entire clan because of Mangekyou sharingan,
the eye is rare, why the hell would there be a need to complain about the entire clan
over something the majority of them doesn't even have?

And, no, taking someone else's eyes and putting them into your eye socket isn't natural.
Hashi's wood wasn't natural, Kimmimaro's bone justu weren't natural, Jinton wasn't natural,
these are things that make those characters stand out, and special, because these things are
rare.
 

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Do people not get that the MS is rare?
Not every average Joe Uchiha gets it.
Fewer still even knew about the EMS.
 

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Who cares if Sasuke borrowed eyes to enhance his powers? Naruto also borrows natural energy to enhance his powers much like Sasuke. Kurama is a huge bonus on top of that.
 

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The EMS isn't natural and it IS a borrowed/stolen power. However without it they never would've been able to stand against their rivals so it came out of necessity, not because it was natural. Itachi and Shisui never needed it because they had more natural talent than even Madara, plot was against them though.
 

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The EMS isn't natural and it IS a borrowed/stolen power. However without it they never would've been able to stand against their rivals so it came out of necessity, not because it was natural. Itachi and Shisui never needed it because they had more natural talent than even Madara, plot was against them though.

I don't see how EMS can be considered stolen, the solution is simple Let say Uchiha A and Uchiha B are brothers, both have mangekyou sharingan Uchiha A gives his eyes to Uchiha B, while Uchiha B gives his eye to Uchiha A and there you have it, both have EMS.

The reason I consider EMS natural is because its in their DNA that the only reason. In their DNA once they unlock MS they need to gain EMS to not go blind or regain vision.
 

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I don't see how EMS can be considered stolen, the solution is simple Let say Uchiha A and Uchiha B are brothers, both have mangekyou sharingan Uchiha A gives his eyes to Uchiha B, while Uchiha B gives his eye to Uchiha A and there you have it, both have EMS.

The reason I consider EMS natural is because its in their DNA that the only reason. In their DNA once they unlock MS they need to gain EMS to not go blind or regain vision.

The reason EMS could be considered natural is because of compatibility. It could be possible that only Indra's reincarnations are capable of attaining EMS. It could be possible that Indra's powers were distributed between two brothers and could become one later on. It could be possible that sibling's eyes actually belong to Indra's reincarnation and are just kept in reserve for him by the sibling.
 

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I don't see how EMS can be considered stolen, the solution is simple Let say Uchiha A and Uchiha B are brothers, both have mangekyou sharingan Uchiha A gives his eyes to Uchiha B, while Uchiha B gives his eye to Uchiha A and there you have it, both have EMS.

The reason I consider EMS natural is because its in their DNA that the only reason. In their DNA once they unlock MS they need to gain EMS to not go blind or regain vision.

It COULD be stolen, if they had to the MS user could forcefully take their sibling's eyes. This has never been shown to happen though, I was just stating that is possible. Then again this is all my opinion and it's ok if you disagree with it.
 

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Who cares if Sasuke borrowed eyes to enhance his powers? Naruto also borrows natural energy to enhance his powers much like Sasuke. Kurama is a huge bonus on top of that.
Yeah. My only problem with Sasuke's EMS eyes is that he burned through his MS like a fool in a few weeks when Itachi had his for years
As for the comparison, Naruto proved himself to all of the beasts for that kind of synchronization. Before that he stomped Kurama and yanked it out (yes, with help) and before that using Kurama's chakra was also a hindrance but he DID spam it like crazy regardless.
 

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Use transplated eyes for Uchiha is like becoming Kurama jinc and use his power for Uzumaki... Naturaly in their genes
 

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Yeah. My only problem with Sasuke's EMS eyes is that he burned through his MS like a fool in a few weeks when Itachi had his for years
As for the comparison, Naruto proved himself to all of the beasts for that kind of synchronization. Before that he stomped Kurama and yanked it out (yes, with help) and before that using Kurama's chakra was also a hindrance but he DID spam it like crazy regardless.
Its was like 4 day
 

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It COULD be stolen, if they had to the MS user could forcefully take their sibling's eyes. This has never been shown to happen though, I was just stating that is possible. Then again this is all my opinion and it's ok if you disagree with it.

If one Uchida has MS while the other doesn't and steal the eye to gain MS I guess that can be considered stealing.

Use transplated eyes for Uchiha is like becoming Kurama jinc and use his power for Uzumaki... Naturaly in their genes

I don't remember Kurama belonging to Uzumaki, just because Uzumaki had Kurama doesn't mean Uzumaki naturally belongs to the Uzumaki genes. Anyone can be a Jinchuuriki but not everyone can get along with a Bijuu.

Just because Madara had Kurama doesn't mean Kurama belonged to Madara.
 

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If one Uchida has MS while the other doesn't and steal the eye to gain MS I guess that can be considered stealing.



I don't remember Kurama belonging to Uzumaki, just because Uzumaki had Kurama doesn't mean Uzumaki naturally belongs to the Uzumaki genes. Anyone can be a Jinchuuriki but not everyone can get along with a Bijuu.

Just because Madara had Kurama doesn't mean Kurama belonged to Madara.

Not anyone can be Kurama jinchuuriki. Only Uzumaki have special chakra to become his jinchuuriki.
 

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Not anyone can be Kurama jinchuuriki. Only Uzumaki have special chakra to become his jinchuuriki.

We only seen these as Kurama Jinchuuriki:
Mito Uzumaki
Kushina Uzumaki
Naruto Uzumaki
Ginkaku and kinkaku note not Jinchuuriki but powers of Jinchuuriki
Minato

We are never told a special body is needed to be Kurama Jinchuuriki.
 

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We only seen these as Kurama Jinchuuriki:
Mito Uzumaki
Kushina Uzumaki
Naruto Uzumaki
Ginkaku and kinkaku note not Jinchuuriki but powers of Jinchuuriki
Minato

We are never told a special body is needed to be Kurama Jinchuuriki.

Edit

I don't know if to include Obito since was Jinchuuriki of the Juubi which is harder than Kurama.

I messed up the edit
 

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We only seen these as Kurama Jinchuuriki:
Mito Uzumaki
Kushina Uzumaki
Naruto Uzumaki
Ginkaku and kinkaku note not Jinchuuriki but powers of Jinchuuriki
Minato

We are never told a special body is needed to be Kurama Jinchuuriki.

In chapter 500 or 501 Kushina said that she was choosen as Kurama host because of her special/strong chakra.
 

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Yeah. My only problem with Sasuke's EMS eyes is that he burned through his MS like a fool in a few weeks when Itachi had his for years
As for the comparison, Naruto proved himself to all of the beasts for that kind of synchronization. Before that he stomped Kurama and yanked it out (yes, with help) and before that using Kurama's chakra was also a hindrance but he DID spam it like crazy regardless.

You can complain about that. Part of the reason is his careless usage and lust for revenge. But part of the reason is plot. He had to attain EMS.

Use transplated eyes for Uchiha is like becoming Kurama jinc and use his power for Uzumaki... Naturaly in their genes

What a ridiculous comparison!

What's naturally in their genes? Was Minato an Uzumaki? Did he not become Kurama's jinchuuriki? Uzumaki's aren't the only ones who can become Kurama's jinchuurikis. It has nothing to with their genes. Whereas EMS is reliant on genes.

Also, EMS only enhances existing powers. This is the same kind of upgrade for Sasuke as Sage Mode is for Naruto. Both enhance the user's existing powers by borrowing something. Kurama, on the other hand, is a completely different power up. It ADDS new powers like BDs and Kurama Avatar unlike EMS. It gives other features like sensing and healing unlike EMS. It gives a huge amount of powerful chakra unlike EMS. It gives advises, strategies and knowledge unlike EMS. How the hell can you consider them to be the same kind of power ups? It's beyond me...
 
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What a ridiculous comparison!

What's naturally in their genes? Was Minato an Uzumaki? Did he not become Kurama's jinchuuriki? Uzumaki's aren't the only ones who can become Kurama's jinchuurikis. It has nothing to with their genes. Whereas EMS is reliant on genes.

Minato just sealed part of Kyuubi and them died. You have no proof that if Minato would be alive he couldbe handle with Kyubis chakra on Naruto or Kushina level.
Also, EMS only enhances existing powers. This is the same kind of upgrade for Sasuke as Sage Mode is for Naruto. Both enhance the user's existing powers by borrowing something.
You're wrong. Unlike EMS SM gives user such new abilities as Sensing and Frog Kata
Kurama, on the other hand, is a completely different power up. It ADDS new powers like BDs and Kurama Avatar unlike EMS. It gives other features like sensing and healing unlike EMS. It gives a huge amount of powerful chakra unlike EMS. It gives advises, strategies and knowledge unlike EMS. How the hell can you consider them to be the same kind of power ups? It's beyond me...

Because both cant reach EMS and BM naturally ? Also your whining about powers that Kurama gives is proof that Kyuubi better powerup than eyes. Goodbye.
 
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Who cares if Sasuke borrowed eyes to enhance his powers? Naruto also borrows natural energy to enhance his powers much like Sasuke. Kurama is a huge bonus on top of that.

Don't forget Sasuke borrows Kurama also a huge bonus
 

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In chapter 500 or 501 Kushina said that she was choosen as Kurama host because of her special/strong chakra.

I checked the chapter out here is the link , Kushina strong chakra isn't necessary to be Kurama Jinchuuriki, the special strong chakra is to suppress Kurama.

If someone has the Viz version that would greatly help.

Anyway we don't know how other clan apart from Uzumaki handles being a Jinchuuriki of Kurama, but we seen other clan being the Jinchuuriki of other Bijuu such as Killer Bee.

Its good that Naruto made friends with the Bijuus.

As for EMS an Uchiha has the gene in them so for them is natural to transplant eye and gain EMS, while Bijuu mode anyone can do that as long as they get along with the Bijuu like Killer bee or even those who are not friends like Gaara part 1.
 
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