[Discussion] about today's chapter....

[Itachi Rane]

from today's chapter we got to see more of madara and hashirama's growing friendship. The bonds they shared was something special which reminded me of other such bonds kishi showed before specially that of naruto and sasuke. Hashirama respected his father but still couldn't bring himself to betray madara and the same goes for madara as well. The shock on their faces when they recieved each others stones clearly point out the coincindence, that each of them came to know each other's real identities at the same time and was ordered by their respective father to spy on the other one , if possible kill him. And from what i see, both hashirama and madara went against their father's order because it was their friendship, their own common ideals, all those moments they''ve shared sparring with each other, dreams to build a new world....and that's what they treasured the most. Madara like any other ninja had a nindo which was protecting his precious person and that person was izuna. But somehow kishi also showed that at that moment madara also cared for his friendship. And right now i still don't think that madara will gain MS by losing his father. From what we've read about MS activation and today's chapter, madara respected his father but his MOST precious person was Izuna. Even though obviously a child should always love his father, i don't really think madara's love for his father was that intense. If it was then why did he go against his father's orders? Any opinions people cause i maybe wrong....

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

Because he and Hashirama were great friends.

 

[johnny335704]

Yep... He lost his brothers so Madara wanted to protect Izuna at any cost.

 

[Sasuke of the akatsuki]

Wait, are you saying Izuna going to die next chapter and Madara will awaken MS?

 

[xxSAGExx]

from today's chapter we got to see more of madara and hashirama's growing friendship. The bonds they shared was something special which reminded me of other such bonds kishi showed before specially that of naruto and sasuke. Hashirama respected his father but still couldn't bring himself to betray madara and the same goes for madara as well. The shock on their faces when they recieved each others stones clearly point out the coincindence, that each of them came to know each other's real identities at the same time and was ordered by their respective father to spy on the other one , if possible kill him. And from what i see, both hashirama and madara went against their father's order because it was their friendship, their own common ideals, all those moments they''ve shared sparring with each other, dreams to build a new world....and that's what they treasured the most. Madara like any other ninja had a nindo which was protecting his precious person and that person was izuna. But somehow kishi also showed that at that moment madara also cared for his friendship. And right now i still don't think that madara will gain MS by losing his father. From what we've read about MS activation and today's chapter, madara respected his father but his MOST precious person was Izuna. Even though obviously a child should always love his father, i don't really think madara's love for his father was that intense. If it was then why did he go against his father's orders? Any opinions people cause i maybe wrong....

Well don't forget that Izuna and Madara both got their eyes at or around the same time so it could be seeing their other brothers die or their father. Maybe for Madara it was feeling like he wasn't strong enough to save his other brothers and that pain caused hs M to awaken and Izuna was the same or Izuna gets it when his dad dies. also even if a kid loves their parent that doesn't mean they'll always listen to them, Kids think they're right a lot of the time as we seen Madara and Hashirama saying they disagree with the world which is run by the adults so they want to change itt for when they grow as well.

 

[foxyladyland]

because madara is a born leader and he's sooo cool, izuna is dead (sad life for little kids)

 

[SEEDLESS]

THE UCHIHA LEADER will die and izuna + madara awakens MS (theory or spoiler). Thats it! izuna will not die yet...

duh read the manga again guys...

 

[TheCCV]

Yup, that was them. They were friends.

 

[foxyladyland]

THE UCHIHA LEADER will die and izuna + madara awakens MS (theory or spoiler). Thats it! izuna will not die yet...

duh read the manga again guys...

why do people think izuna is about to die now?

 

[Fermion]

I wont say he did'nt loved about his father indeed but its just that he did'nt wanted to lose a friend who shares the same dreams and idols as of his.
They both displayed wisdom and were fond of reasoning than just blindly believing the ideals of their clan.

 

[foxyladyland]

I wont say he did'nt loved about his father indeed but its just that he did'nt wanted to lose a friend who shares the same dreams and idols as of his.
They both displayed wisdom and were fond of reasoning than just blindly believing the ideals of their clan.

adults made kids fight, kids died, madara's brothers died

 

[Kikki]

I don't believe he will get MS and EMS on the same day. That's truly abit too much. I believe the EMS thingy came really alot later and due to different circumstances that were the result of what happened in their childhood.

That means, Izuna will not die quite yet. They will have to form their strong bond, train together and most likely unite against the senju and grow a specific feeling of hatred towards them. That hatred might be the result of what will happen next. The death of the father could awaken the MS and start their hatred against the senju.

Regarding this, I see an upcoming decision. The brother will be of a higher value than his friendship, that's when things will start to go bad between them.

I could see the father dying. It could also be that Izuna will directly ask his bro what side he is on. I see that as a good explanation for both MS and becoming enemies against senju. That's why I believe that Tobi will kill Senju dad as well.

EMS got awakened later, during the war times. Both brothers truly hated the senju already and most likely a senju like Tobirama who hated Izuna for a while, finished him off. After that, things got really hopeless and a forced truce changed nothing. One person had to leave and lose.

 

[Itachi Rane]

obviously izuna won't die anytime soon....we all know that....but still i doubt if madara actually will awaken MS at his father's death....

 

[6PathsofKami]

Well it was said they both awakened it at the same time so its highly likely they see their father die, even if Madara doesnt like his father its still his dad so watching him die would trigger an emotional trauma = MS for Izuna + Madara kinda like how Kakashi + Obito awakened them.