About Tobirama and his power

[Narutobirama]

So, most people simply seem to assume he is a Kage level or slightly stronger.

And while I agree that it would be great to see more of how powerful he is, there are some things that suggest he is not levels below Madara.

When I say Madara, I mean Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan Madara.

Clearly, Hashirama is stronger than Tobirama.

However, Hashirama defeated Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan Madara who had full power Nine Tails helping him.

It is fair to assume that Tobirama can't defeat Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan Madara with full power of Nine Tails helping him.

But Tobirama might have a chance of defeating Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan Madara.

That doesn't mean he would win. But he would have a decent chance of winning.

Tobirama was the second strongest Senju. With his brother he fought against Madara and Izuna. They fought many times. Izuna trained with Madara. Tobirama defeated Izuna. Even Madara acknowledged Tobirama. Tobirama, one of the most intelligent Shinobi, believed he could defeat Madara.

In other words, Madara and Tobirama were not necessarily of equal power but they were on the same level. Keep in mind I am not saying Tobirama is on the same level as Madara with Rinnegan and Sage mode.

 

[Observer]

But Tobirama might have a chance of defeating Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan Madara.
That doesn't mean he would win. But he would have a decent chance of winning.

Smh, this thread.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

He's not beating Eternal Mangekyo Madara either. The chances are slime to none and the best he can do is evade most of his attacks.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

He's not beating Eternal Mangekyo Madara either. The chances are slime to none and the best he can do is evade most of his attacks.

I mean tech can't he just warp Susanno away via ftg well damn just seen ems ps too big lol

 

[Exaar]

The only Madara that Tobirama can hope to defeat is MS Madara, Since we don't know if he has bijuu sized susanoo or susanoo similar in size/strength to Ms Sasuke's and Ms Itachi's

Tobirama has little to no chance of defeating EMS madara with or without the kyuubi.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I mean tech can't he just warp Susanno away via ftg well damn just seen ems ps too big lol

He has no problem evading Susanoo's slashes, even the big 5 mountain slash attacks. However he can't warp away chakra.

 

[Magnolius]

Smh, this thread.

Smh, this alt.

 

[Observer]

Smh, this alt.

Shell of my former self.

 

[Magnolius]

Shell of my former self.

Shell? So you're just the empty husk of some random member?

 

[Observer]

Shell? So you're just the empty husk of some random member?

You got it.

 

[chopstickchakra]

He has no problem evading Susanoo's slashes, even the big 5 mountain slash attacks. However he can't warp away chakra.

Didn't Minato FTG a TBB? Isn't that Chakra?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Didn't Minato FTG a TBB? Isn't that Chakra?

Tailed beast bomb is a lot of things. I thought it was senjustu/natural energy.
But what I mean is that you can't warp away chakra surrounding the body.
Just like how you can't warp away Kcm from the body, you can't do that to Susanoo.

 

[leezagboola]

Tobirama would probably be able to defeat Madara if he didnt **** around and just straight up killed him like he wanted to do back 100 years ago or whatever.
In terms of raw power, Madara wins but I feel tobirama could potentially win through intelligence and effort.

 

[Lightbringer]

For those saying that FTG works on Susanoo.

Minato already explained that FTG works by connecting ones chakra to another. Susanoo is chakra connected to the user.

Here is a scan where Naruto grabbed Sasuke's body, yet Susanoo was teleported along with him

FTG won't separate the user from Susanoo.

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[Hori]

Basically what you're saying is if EMS Madara were to fight Tobirama he would break a sweat?

 

[Karuchibi Uchiha]

You got it.

i advice you kage him with some Bobiness

 

[Ansatsuken]

Didn't Minato FTG a TBB? Isn't that Chakra?

Minato didnt using FTG on TBB but S/T barrier.

The different here FTG need a contact but S/T barrier doesnt need it. S/T barrier already prepare the S/T path way to somewhere and just waiting for someone/an attack to enter it.