About Naruto's RSM

Hashirama Senjuu

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If that were fact than Naruto wouldn't have RSM in base without the tailed Beasts chakra being put to use (unless he gets chakra from them himself as shown when he talks to them to use their power). Hagoromo gave him HIS CHAKRA. That's it.

Nine Bijuu does not create Rikudou chakra, which is gained from the Nine Bijuu and Gedo Mazo (Ten Tails body) merged together to get Kaguya's chakra.

Hagoromo's chakra in Naruto is what allows Naruto to use the Nine Tailed Beasts chakra in tandem in the first place as the CANON Databook states. If Naruto didn't constantly have that chakra gained from Hagoromo then he would be unable to use all of that power in tandem with each other to form the full cloaked RSM.

:lmao: Naruto doesn't have to show biju chakra to have it. He has kurama in him but was in base. He don't need the gedo mazo, he is the container for each biju now. And to get kaguyas chakra? WTF WHERE DO YOU THINK KAGUYA GOT CHAKRA FROM? :lmao: Making all of you look dumb. You guys can't win a debate when it comes to rsm.
 

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Just keep trying to prove me wrong, you can't, rsm comes from the tailed beasts the originators of chakra. I know more about rsm than anyone besides kishi
 

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WRONG! Shinju is the jubi, and where did kaguya get chakra from? THE JUBI. SO KAGUYA IS NOT NEEDED ONLY THE JUBI IS. now you look dumb. Gedo mazo is the shell to fuse the nine tailed beasts. Nine biju + sage mode = RSM

Do you not read manga dumbass.Sorry
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You're the one that make yourself look dumb here,jerk.U_U

I dont how a person that already had child like you can be this illiterate. I think you should just focus on to be a family guy instead of wasting your time hereU_U.

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Edit: Kaguya get her chakra from Chakra fruitU_U
 
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Do you not read manga dumbass.Sorry
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You're the one that make yourself look dumb here,jerk.U_U

I dont how a person that already had child like you can be this illiterate. I think you should just focus on to be a family guy instead of wasting your time hereU_U.

Exactly, kaguya plus Shinju equals that beast. The Shinju itself is the jubis true form which is wear kaguya got chakra from. I'm not being a jerk, but its been so long, and I've been preaching the same thing since day one that rsm is from the tailed beasts and I've showed countless times how that is plausible and how no other way makes any sense.
 

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Naruto is already strong as shit, but people still care about this?
 

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Exactly, kaguya plus Shinju equals that beast. The Shinju itself is the jubis true form which is wear kaguya got chakra from. I'm not being a jerk, but its been so long, and I've been preaching the same thing since day one that rsm is from the tailed beasts and I've showed countless times how that is plausible and how no other way makes any sense.

And Gedo Mazo is Shinju+Kaguya.

Not Shinju but Shinju+Kaguya. Because of Kaguya is alien humanoid being, thats why Shinju can turned into Beast. Shinju cant/unable to turned/transformed into Humanoid form before.

With Kaguya help it can. Actually Kaguya is the one that control the transformation not Shinju. Read Kaguya arc when Kaguya was turned into Rabbit Juubi and after that she turned back into human form after stabilize.

Manga fact dude. I can gave you.

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Fix you reading comprehension dude
 
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:lmao: Naruto doesn't have to show biju chakra to have it. He has kurama in him but was in base. He don't need the gedo mazo, he is the container for each biju now. And to get kaguyas chakra? WTF WHERE DO YOU THINK KAGUYA GOT CHAKRA FROM? :lmao: Making all of you look dumb. You guys can't win a debate when it comes to rsm.

He does have it, I'm saying he has to actively use it however. They work differently then Kurama does. Please don't tell me you think he's always using their chakra right? Than why did he specifically have to talk to particular Tailed Beasts to use their chakra and power in the first place?
You do know what the Gedo Mazo is right? That's the body of the Ten Tails, without it you don't have the Shinju's chakra, just a bastardised version of it.

And what is Kaguya's chakra? That's right! The Shinju's chakra. Which is where she got it from in the first place, not the Tailed Beasts, who came from her.


Just keep trying to prove me wrong, you can't, rsm comes from the tailed beasts the originators of chakra. I know more about rsm than anyone besides kishi


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Lmao. My gosh, you do realise that the originator's of chakra are the Shinju and Kaguya right?

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I'm laughing. :)
 

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Let say Naruto cant used TSB and full RSM because he doesnt have all Bijuus, just Kurama only.

But he still have Six Path chakra from Hagoromo if not Senjutsu.
 

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He does have it, I'm saying he has to actively use it however. They work differently then Kurama does. Please don't tell me you think he's always using their chakra right? Than why did he specifically have to talk to particular Tailed Beasts to use their chakra and power in the first place?
You do know what the Gedo Mazo is right? That's the body of the Ten Tails, without it you don't have the Shinju's chakra, just a bastardised version of it.

And what is Kaguya's chakra? That's right! The Shinju's chakra. Which is where she got it from in the first place, not the Tailed Beasts, who came from her.





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Lmao. My gosh, you do realise that the originator's of chakra are the Shinju and Kaguya right?

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I'm laughing. :)

No kaguya is not. She got it from the Shinju. I'm laughing. What are the tailed beasts? Oh yeah, the jubi. Which is the Shinju. Thanks for proving me right
 

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And Gedo Mazo is Shinju+Kaguya.

Not Shinju but Shinju+Kaguya. Because of Kaguya is alien humanoid being, thats why Shinju can turned into Beast. Shinju cant/unable to turned/transformed into Humanoid form before.

With Kaguya help it can. Actually Kaguya is the one that control the transformation not Shinju. Read Kaguya arc when Kaguya was turned into Rabbit Juubi and after that she turned back into human form after stabilize.

Manga fact dude. I can gave you.

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Fix you reading comprehension dude

But where did kaguya get chakra from? You don't need Kaguya to have RSM. Lmao you didn't prove anything. You need jubis chakra, you need the shinjus chakra, not kaguya. You don't need the gedo mazo, Naruto is the gedo mazo now, he's the new container for each biju.
 

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"Naruto's Six Paths Sage Mode is virtually indistinguishable from his base form, the only difference is that his eyes become yellow, instead of red or orange, with his pupils taking on a cross-like shape traits of his combination of Sage Mode and Kurama Mode, without manifesting the orange pigmentation around his eyes.[2]

When he draws on the power of all the tailed beasts, he dons a chakra cloak that appears similar to his Sage Tailed Beast Mode. The chakra forms into a light-coloured coat with a dark-coloured "bodysuit" underneath that covers his torso, reaches down his arms to the knuckles, and down his legs, stopping just above his sandals which also change colour. It also has a light-coloured circle where his seal was placed, as well as golden magatama markings around his collar. The coat has the typical markings of the Six Paths Senjutsu: a Rinnegan above nine magatama, on its back.[3] In addition, his skin does not glow like his previous transformations. Years later, he uses a variation of this form, utilising Six Path Sage Mode with just accessing Kurama's power for the cloak, giving it a different appearance."
 

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But where did kaguya get chakra from? You don't need Kaguya to have RSM. Lmao you didn't prove anything. You need jubis chakra, you need the shinjus chakra, not kaguya. You don't need the gedo mazo, Naruto is the gedo mazo now, he's the new container for each biju.

She get her chakra from Chakra fruit and not shinju even though Shinju is the one that produce it. All Natural energy that Shinju gather is went to chakra fruit.

Thats why Shinju still need all human chakra to produce another chakra fruit. Shinju not storing any chakra but chakra fruit(the juice is all inside CF).

Thats mean all Juubi's chakra was Kaguya's own chakra and not Shinju. TBeasts chakra is Kaguya's chakra from Chakra fruit.

You need Juubi chakra=You need Kaguya chakra

Bijuus chakra is Kaguya chakra.

You need Shinju= you need Juubi=you need Kaguya+Shinju. Tailed Beasts lack Shinju+Kaguya. They just Natural chakra with affinity. Naruto body doesnt have something like that. Naruto Body doesnt have Six Path power.

He is not Kaguya son like Hagoromo.

Six Path power came from Shinju/Chakra fruit and Kaguya have them.

You can see the connection and whole picture if you fix your brain.

How hard to understand.
 
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Nah, Naruto is each tailed beasts gathering place and can receive chakra from any distance from them, each biju is needed for RSM. He doesn't have constant rikudo chakra in him like sasukes rinnegan and that's a ****ing fact. So he needs every biju for that, along with sage mode and bam rsm.

No this is false
All the Bijuus or some are needed to DO DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF JUTSU
For eg the Lava Rasen shuriken
The RSM allows him to incorporate a nature or KKG faster and more perfectly
The 9 Bijuus just make the RSM more stronger
 

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No kaguya is not. She got it from the Shinju. I'm laughing. What are the tailed beasts? Oh yeah, the jubi. Which is the Shinju. Thanks for proving me right

The Juubi was Kaguya fused with the Shinju tree, that is it. The Juubi is not the Shinju, but rather is Kaguya and the Shinju, without Kaguya there is no Juubi, thus no Tailed Beasts, which means they come from her.

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The Manga disagrees (as does the Databook), its not the Shinju, but rather Kaguya that is the originator/progenitor of chakra.
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The Gedo Mazo is not just the container of the tailed beasts chakra, it is the very body of the Juubi. You must ask what chakra is made of: Nature Energy + Spiritual + Physical.

The Gedo Mazo is the Physical energy, and it seems the Spiritual energy might be within it as well, thus the Tailed Beasts are missing a fair bit of the equation aren't they?


Edit: Considering the comprehension you've displayed so far, I'll explain it to you in full. What is the Shinju? What was its original chakra? It had no Mental or Physical Energies, it was just a construct of Nature Energy.

That's it, the only chakra it had. But when it fused with Kaguya, it gained two new chakra's, Physical and Spiritual (Yin and Yang) the very basis of Six Paths chakra itself. Kaguya's Physical and Spiritual chakra that formed within her thanks to the chakra fruit makes Rikudou chakra, Kaguya + Shinju Makes Rikudou Senjutsu.
 
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No.
RSM is attained from SM and Rikudou chakra, when he got all the 9 Bijuu chakra was when he was able to get things such as TSB and special markings, it was a stronger version of RSM

Rikudou chakra + SM = RSM

i personally disagree with this assessment and believe that RSM is juubi chakra(9 bijuus) mixed with sage mode

after all madara also had rikudo senjutsu and he had juubi chakra and hashirama`s senjutsu.....

but on the other hand madara also had rikudo chakra so ...

this debate just cant be proven either way so it`s pointless to discuss it,everyone has a different opinion

so i`ll just leave it at: you know nothing jon snow :p
 

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I simply didn't reply because I already stated how everything yall keep repeating is wrong, and you didn't prove me wrong so, yeahhh
 

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REMEMBER PEOPLE.

ALL THE BLACK ORBS ARE GONE, FOREVER.

Naruto wasted his last few vs Sasuke, stop bringing that shit up.
 

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Obito absorbed part of the jubi and gained rsm. HE ONLY GAVE PARTS OF THE BEASTS TO NARUTO. how the hell did they get to full size? Oh yeah, hagoromo. And ***** don't be retarded and get it twisted hago had rsm because kaguya was the jubis Jin when she gave birth.

Please quit acting retarded. You can't get RSM without each bijus chakra. Please gtfo, YOU CANT PROVE ME WRONG.

I can prove you wrong because in Madaras jinchuriki mind state there was no juubi for Obito to snatch from.
He only took hachibi and ichibi and senjutsu.
You're not fair with all the insults cause I can't hit you from here. Save the insults for people that are Around you. You love being protected by that screen don't you.
Btw The juubi is Kaguya and the shinju.
Who made you the authority on rikudou chakra and your arguments lack evidence.
Imma let the other members shut you up
Fact of the matter is Naruto and Sasuke along with the seals and power ups received half of hagos chakra which is Rikudou chakra.
Naruto and Obito used rikudou chakra separately from rinnegan and bijuu power.
Base rsm is evidence
Kakashi with obitos soul is evidence
Obito only took hachibi and ichibi bijuu chakra
Not collective bijuu chakra, Madara still noted he took senjutsu power
 
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