About Naruto's RSM

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You guys can't argue with me about this lmao ik more about it than anyone (besides kishi)
 

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You guys can't argue with me about this lmao ik more about it than anyone (besides kishi)

Only when he use's rsm with all nine bijju's chakra will his skin not glow.

This is rsm with only kurama mode
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Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)

Heading: A gift from the ancestor of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.


← The caster has an unconscious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).


From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of Chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosophical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.
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→ Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast Chakra lets him perform this risky stunt! ← His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchūriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability
 

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Same bullcrap arguments again and again from the people who say he lost RSM. None of the elements mentioned are what makes RSM RSM. The sage eyes without pigmentation is the only common indicator. At this rate, the theorists that say he lost it are in supreme denial.
 

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Only when he use's rsm with all nine bijju's chakra will his skin not glow.

This is rsm with only kurama mode
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Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)

Heading: A gift from the ancestor of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.


← The caster has an unconscious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).


From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of Chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosophical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.
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→ Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast Chakra lets him perform this risky stunt! ← His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchūriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability
The gift was all nine biju smart one, this has been proved, you're very late, manga>databook. Please gtfo
 

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No, it is true, where do you think the rinnegan came from? The jubi. Where do you think chakra came from? THE JUBI. WHAT IS THE JUBI? ALL NINE BIJU.

You lack basic reading comprehension if you couldn't grasp what I was saying.

You claimed that you couldn't get Rikudou Chakra without all Bijuu and I refuted it by presenting different ways to achieve it.
 

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All nine biju chakra together is rikudo chakra you dumb ass

Obito used rikudou senjutsu without having all tb chakra when ge betrayed madara. Proof is he manifested by taking rikudou senjutsu madara even said it.
Naruto got rsm from the sage like obito got rsm from madara except ut was bigger as he gained his yang portion of chakra. Tailed beasts amplify rikudou power like the god tree can did to madara. Notice how it added tomoe on his outfit and made him immortal
 

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The gift was all nine biju smart one, this has been proved, you're very late, manga>databook. Please gtfo

Retard obito gave him that.
Hago had rsm before juubi as shown in kaguyas flashback.
Obito had rikudou senjutsu that he snagged from madara s senjutsu power(which madara reffered to separately from the bijuu chakra)

You're wrong dude and you're rude as hell.
Btw the databook is a reliable sourve as long as nothing in the manga contradicts it.
Kishi made the databook and the manga does support the rsm being wielded separately from bijuu chakra as evidenced by base rsm naruto,pre juubi hagoromo,hamura and obito(with small portions of hachibi and shukaku abd he manifested a truth seeking pole)
 

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Obito used rikudou senjutsu without having all tb chakra when ge betrayed madara. Proof is he manifested by taking rikudou senjutsu madara even said it.
Naruto got rsm from the sage like obito got rsm from madara except ut was bigger as he gained his yang portion of chakra. Tailed beasts amplify rikudou power like the god tree can did to madara. Notice how it added tomoe on his outfit and made him immortal

He manifested Rikudou Chakra. He couldn't have received Six Paths Senjutsu if the only portion of the Juubi he stole was a part of Hachibi, Ichibi, and 50% Kurama.
 

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Naruto still has RSM.

Naruto's toad sage mode has dark pigmentations around his eyes - to

Naruto in the Gaiden still has those dark pigmentations when he uses toad sage mode -

BSM/KSM is when Naruto combines BM/KM with toad sage mode. During those modes Naruto has the kurama eyes and toad sage mode eyes with the dark pigmentations - to He used KSM during Naruto the Last.

RSM is when Naruto uses his Six path sage mode. He has kurama eyes and toad sage eyes, but no dark pigmentations. Those missing dark pigmentation is how us readers differentiate between BSM/KSM and RSM. He possess 2 variations of RSM. Base/non-chakra cloak RSM - to and Full chakra cloak RSM - to When Naruto uses Full chakra cloak RSM he has the rinnegan and 9 tomoe symbol on his back and the TSB.

In the gaiden Naruto activated RSM - - It is RSM because he doesn't have the dark pigmentation. Yes, he doesn't have his TSB or rinnegan and 9 tomoe symbol on his back either. That just mean he is not using full power (chakra cloak RSM). Instead, he was just using the 9 tails chakra to activate BM while in RSM. Yes, that's possible. It's similar to when he used the 4 tails chakra to created the LRS - - Naruto, in base RSM, just used the 4 tails charka. Regardless if he is in base or full RSM he is able to individually use the tail beast charka.

I believe the only reason kishi had Naruto activate RSM in the gaiden was to prove he still possess it. If you think about it, Naruto had no reason to use RSM. Naruto could have performed those same jutsu in his BM.

Why don't we see Naruto using his full RSM or TSB, don't know. This manga is know for having characters preform jutsu just once and never use it again. IE: Sasuke, his S/T jutsu is the only rinnegan jutsu he has performed since the war.

PS: Naruto's mode designs are constantly changing. Naruto's mode designs have charged several times since the war. There are different designs in The Last, Gaiden, and Boruto movie.
 

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Oh, the cloak changes argument never fail to amaze me. If they constantly change, then that supports that they have nothing to do with indicating if he's using SPSM.
 

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Alright, so clearly there's a huge discussion going on about whether Naruto lost his RSM or not.

Well, to those who believe he DIDN'T, answer this:

- Where did his TSB go?

- Why did he lose the Rikudo markings on his back?

- Why did his skin re-gain the glow

- Why did the overall design change

- Why are his eyes orange now instead of yellow?


A lot of people use the "Kurama RSM" excuse. How do you even know that exists? It's never been mentioned lmao

And about the lack of pigmentation on his eyes. Maybe that just means he absolutely mastered sage mode?
It's been over a decade after all...


I can answer these in my sleep.

1. His TSB are only accessible to him when he uses RSM alongside all Nine Tailed Beasts chakra. Also, where did Madara's go? :cool:

2, 3, 4, 5. The Rikudou Markings on his back and the overall design of his chakra cloak was formed from using his Rikudou Senjutsu chakra with all Nine Tailed Beasts chakra. Naruto has been shown using RSM without all Nine Tailed Beasts chakra in the manga itself and it was proven by the CANON Databook.
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Databook translation.
'Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)

Heading: A gift from the ancestor of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

← The caster has an unconscious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of Chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosophical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

→ Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast Chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!


← His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchūriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!'


His glows come back most likely because he's just using Kurama characteristics with his Six Paths Senjutsu. Same for the eyes.

It doesn't need to be mentioned, Naruto's shown the ability to use an individual beasts chakra with his RSM like when he only used the 4 tails chakra to create the LRS in his normal RSM.
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In the Gaiden he was directly shown to be talking with Kurama and ONLY Kurama, just like with that case. Which means he's using only Kurama's chakra for the transformation.
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Hopefully peoples shitty bs will end soon, I mean, Sasuke gets to have his 6T Rinnegan and Rikudou's chakra but Naruto can't? The **** is this shit?

Naruto showed that he still has the Pigmentation that a Sage always has with Toad Sage mode, yet when he activated his cloak in Gaiden, he lost the Pigmentation, which only happens when he's using Rikudou Sage Mode.
Naruto was shown flying in the last and was also shown to be capable of effecting TSBs, all of these feats can only be done with Rikudou chakra.
 

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Retard obito gave him that.
Hago had rsm before juubi as shown in kaguyas flashback.
Obito had rikudou senjutsu that he snagged from madara s senjutsu power(which madara reffered to separately from the bijuu chakra)

You're wrong dude and you're rude as hell.
Btw the databook is a reliable sourve as long as nothing in the manga contradicts it.
Kishi made the databook and the manga does support the rsm being wielded separately from bijuu chakra as evidenced by base rsm naruto,pre juubi hagoromo,hamura and obito(with small portions of hachibi and shukaku abd he manifested a truth seeking pole)

Obito absorbed part of the jubi and gained rsm. HE ONLY GAVE PARTS OF THE BEASTS TO NARUTO. how the hell did they get to full size? Oh yeah, hagoromo. And ***** don't be retarded and get it twisted hago had rsm because kaguya was the jubis Jin when she gave birth.

Please quit acting retarded. You can't get RSM without each bijus chakra. Please gtfo, YOU CANT PROVE ME WRONG.
 

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I can answer these in my sleep.

1. His TSB are only accessible to him when he uses RSM alongside all Nine Tailed Beasts chakra. Also, where did Madara's go? :cool:

2, 3, 4, 5. The Rikudou Markings on his back and the overall design of his chakra cloak was formed from using his Rikudou Senjutsu chakra with all Nine Tailed Beasts chakra. Naruto has been shown using RSM without all Nine Tailed Beasts chakra in the manga itself and it was proven by the CANON Databook.
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Databook translation.
'Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)

Heading: A gift from the ancestor of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

← The caster has an unconscious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of Chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosophical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

→ Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast Chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!


← His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchūriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!'


His glows come back most likely because he's just using Kurama characteristics with his Six Paths Senjutsu. Same for the eyes.

It doesn't need to be mentioned, Naruto's shown the ability to use an individual beasts chakra with his RSM like when he only used the 4 tails chakra to create the LRS in his normal RSM.
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In the Gaiden he was directly shown to be talking with Kurama and ONLY Kurama, just like with that case. Which means he's using only Kurama's chakra for the transformation.
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Hopefully peoples shitty bs will end soon, I mean, Sasuke gets to have his 6T Rinnegan and Rikudou's chakra but Naruto can't? The **** is this shit?

Naruto showed that he still has the Pigmentation that a Sage always has with Toad Sage mode, yet when he activated his cloak in Gaiden, he lost the Pigmentation, which only happens when he's using Rikudou Sage Mode.
Naruto was shown flying in the last and was also shown to be capable of effecting TSBs, all of these feats can only be done with Rikudou chakra.
Nah, Naruto is each tailed beasts gathering place and can receive chakra from any distance from them, each biju is needed for RSM. He doesn't have constant rikudo chakra in him like sasukes rinnegan and that's a ****ing fact. So he needs every biju for that, along with sage mode and bam rsm.
 

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You lack basic reading comprehension if you couldn't grasp what I was saying.

You claimed that you couldn't get Rikudou Chakra without all Bijuu and I refuted it by presenting different ways to achieve it.

Does Naruto have rinnegan? NO HE NEEDS ALL BIJU.
 

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Keep coming at me ill make you all look stupid.

But you failed at put me down or make me stupid.

You said Juubi gave RSM. Thats true.

You said Juubi is 9 Bijuus. Here you're wrong. Yes 9 Bijuus is essentially Juubi's chakra, but they are just Natural chakra with an affinity.

9 Bijuus still lack one thing to equal Juubi, that was Gedo Mazo(Shinju+Kaguya). Kaguya wield Six Path power. its called as Kekkei Mora(Bloodline encompassing). Juubi's Six Path power came form chakra fruit inside Kaguya.

Shinju suck Natural energy and other thing to create this powerful fruit.

No Kaguya and Shinju, no Six path chakra. Bijuus were just Natural chakra Beast created by Hagoromo that left all six path chakra behind inside Gedo Mazo. If Bijuu chakra have Six Path chakra, Kurama is enough to gave Naruto Six Path chakra. No need to wait for Hagoromo.

But because Naruto doesnt have GM, its need Hagoromo's Six Path power to connecting all Bijuus Natural chakra together.

You said Naruto has become a meeting place for Bijuus similar to Gedo Mazo, but Naruto's body still lack Six Path chakra. Hagoromo is the reason to his Six Path chakra.

Thats mean 9 Bijuus + Six Path power is needed unless you are Hagoromo or Hamura.
Case close.
 
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Nah, Naruto is each tailed beasts gathering place and can receive chakra from any distance from them, each biju is needed for RSM. He doesn't have constant rikudo chakra in him like sasukes rinnegan and that's a ****ing fact. So he needs every biju for that, along with sage mode and bam rsm.


If that were fact than Naruto wouldn't have RSM in base without the tailed Beasts chakra being put to use (unless he gets chakra from them himself as shown when he talks to them to use their power). Hagoromo gave him HIS CHAKRA. That's it.

Nine Bijuu does not create Rikudou chakra, which is gained from the Nine Bijuu and Gedo Mazo (Ten Tails body) merged together to get Kaguya's chakra.

Hagoromo's chakra in Naruto is what allows Naruto to use the Nine Tailed Beasts chakra in tandem in the first place as the CANON Databook states. If Naruto didn't constantly have that chakra gained from Hagoromo then he would be unable to use all of that power in tandem with each other to form the full cloaked RSM.
 

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But you failed at put me down or make me stupid.

You said Juubi gave RSM. Thats true.

You said Juubi is 9 Bijuus. Here you're wrong. Yes 9 Bijuus is essentially Juubi's chakra, but they are just Natural chakra with an affinity.

9 Bijuus still lack one thing to equal Juubi, that was Gedo Mazo(Shinju+Kaguya). Kaguya wield Six Path power. its called as Kekkei Mora(Bloodline encompassing). Juubi's Six Path power came form chakra fruit inside Kaguya.

Shinju suck Natural energy and other thing to create this powerful fruit.

No Kaguya and Shinju, no Six path chakra. Bijuus were just Natural chakra Beast created by Hagoromo that left all six path chakra behind inside Gedo Mazo. If Bijuu chakra have Six Path chakra, Kurama is enough to gave Naruto Six Path chakra. No need to wait for Hagoromo.

But because Naruto doesnt have GM, its need Hagoromo's Six Path power to connecting all Bijuus Natural chakra together.

You said Naruto has become a meeting place for Bijuus similar to Gedo Mazo, but Naruto's body still lack Six Path chakra. Hagoromo is the reason to his Six Path chakra.

Thats mean 9 Bijuus + Six Path power is needed unless you are Hagoromo or Hamura.
Case close.

WRONG! Shinju is the jubi, and where did kaguya get chakra from? THE JUBI. SO KAGUYA IS NOT NEEDED ONLY THE JUBI IS. now you look dumb. Gedo mazo is the shell to fuse the nine tailed beasts. Nine biju + sage mode = RSM
 
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