About Mu's invisibility

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I'm not going to talk about their power gap. It is obvious Madara is stronger than Mu. But some claim Mu's invisibility can even hide from sharingan, if that was the case how come Madara defeated him so easily ?

Madara is a chakra sensor and possessing sharingan. Mu's invisibility along with his sensory skills allows him to hide from sensors, so Madara's sensing abilities wouldn't be effective. And on top of that if sharingan can't see Mu, how come Madara defeated him that easily ? Did he swinged Susano'o blades until he got lucky to hit him ?

Some say he took them by suprise and thats why Mu got defeated before going invisible.

Look at the scan below. Madara at flashback, doesn't has his armor. But at the first scan I posted, he clearly has his armor. That means he did battled them properly, didn't used some trick. Thats going against Madara's personality anyway, he doesn't use dirty tricks like that against people he considers weaker than him.
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Clearly the Sharingan gives him the ability to see him. Even if Mu can hide his chakra, the fact that he still has to have it coursing through his body just to live, and if so, the Sharingan can see it.
 

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How are we suppose to know such information when koshi never went into detail i mean?
You want me to tell you simply madara negged him? Is that enough confirmation?

And madara had armor in both panels
 

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Your argument is irrelevant. You literally have no evidence except "Madara beat him so he can see him" makes zero sense, holds no weight, and the fight was off panel so you can keep believing Itachi can see Muu if he goes invisible but any argument you make will never stand.
 

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Itachi >> Muu.
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Your argument is irrelevant. You literally have no evidence except "Madara beat him so he can see him" makes zero sense, holds no weight, and the fight was off panel so you can keep believing Itachi can see Muu if he goes invisible but any argument you make will never stand.

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How are we suppose to know such information when koshi never went into detail i mean?
You want me to tell you simply madara negged him? Is that enough confirmation?

And madara had armor in both panels

This is before their fight, check Madara's shoulders.

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This is after their fight, check Madara's shoulders.

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If you want to keep up with denial. Mu's invisibility is actually a Water Release Ninjutsu. So he is using chakra to perform invisibility. That jutsu isn't hiding his chakra, it is hiding him. What is hiding his chakra is his sensory skills. Karin was also able to use her sensory to hide her chakra signature from C. Sharingan can give color to chakra, so Mu using that Water Ninjutsu is proof enough that Sharingan can see him, after all that jutsu is using chakra.

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This is before their fight, check Madara's shoulders.

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This is after their fight, check Madara's shoulders.

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If you want to keep up with denial. Mu's invisibility is actually a Water Release Ninjutsu. So he is using chakra to perform invisibility. That jutsu isn't hiding his chakra, it is hiding him. What is hiding his chakra is his sensory skills. Karin was also able to use her sensory to hide her chakra signature from C. Sharingan can give color to chakra, so Mu using that Water Ninjutsu is proof enough that Sharingan can see him, after all that jutsu is using chakra.

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Blablabla??blablabla is what i resd since there is no confirmation what they used yes or no only that madara both beat them.

On other news. I guess madara doesnt habe leg armor and stuff?
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The fight was off panel so Madara could have used something else to detect and defeat Muu. If Jiraiya, Nagato, Orochimaru, Hiruzen, Kakashi etc all off paneled Muu in a fight does that mean they can see him while he's invisible too? No. All of them and many others have techniques ways of detecting Muu and you have no idea what or how Madara did in the situation.

Kinkaku and Ginkaku off panel stomped Tobirama. I guess that means they are faster than him and can easily counter FTG right? They're faster than instant, right? This is the logic you are using and it makes no sense.
 

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The fight was off panel so Madara could have used something else to detect and defeat Muu. If Jiraiya, Nagato, Orochimaru, Hiruzen, Kakashi etc all off paneled Muu in a fight does that mean they can see him while he's invisible too? No. All of them and many others have techniques ways of detecting Muu and you have no idea what or how Madara did in the situation.

What other method ? He has Sharingan and Chakra sensory. Nothing else. But Jiraiya, Nagato etc didn't off-panelled Mu, Madara did. So speculating about others aren't actually meaning anything. Unless you're saying Madara swinged his Susano'o until he got a lucky shot on Mu, he detected his location somehow and defeated him. Scans showing that he defeated them without trying much. He is still standing on stairways as well. So he didn't tried anything complex to detect him since he seems hardly moved from his position.


Kinkaku and Ginkaku off panel stomped Tobirama. I guess that means they are faster than him and can easily counter FTG right? They're faster than instant, right? This is the logic you are using and it makes no sense.

Tobirama was out-numbered and Kin/Gin brothers had Sage's tools. There are more reasonable means than speed for his defeat. He probably got tired against them after some time, and gave an opening in one of his teleports. And he wasn't fighting against Kin/Gin alone, there were many Kumo shinobi there.
 

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Sorry, muus chakra is also hidden. You can't prove its not, it doesn't matter what you argue back, you can't prove anything. If they state his chakra is hidden too than it is
 

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The fight was off panel so Madara could have used something else to detect and defeat Muu. If Jiraiya, Nagato, Orochimaru, Hiruzen, Kakashi etc all off paneled Muu in a fight does that mean they can see him while he's invisible too? No. All of them and many others have techniques ways of detecting Muu and you have no idea what or how Madara did in the situation.

Kinkaku and Ginkaku off panel stomped Tobirama. I guess that means they are faster than him and can easily counter FTG right? They're faster than instant, right? This is the logic you are using and it makes no sense.

No dumb ass. ^ this retard. LOL.

How is Kinkaku and Ginkaku faster than Tobirama just because they beat him? You comparison is retarded. What we know is that Kinkaku and Ginkaku beat Tobirama and they found a way to counter his speed.

Same with Madara. He found a way too see Mu.
 
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