about madara

[PIOLO]

Kaguya vs Madara: Rinnei-sharingan Madara is Hagoromo's level AT LEAST. On top of that Madara has "limbo" which the clones are equally as powerful as the original and can use this to multiply his power at least 4x even though it's temporary. (as per databook). Given Madara's battle smarts he can use them tactically and seal her with Rikudou-Chibaku tensei.

Hagoromo vs Madara: Madara absorbs everyone's chakra using the shinjuu and obtain's kaguya's level of chakra. This is basically Kaguya with MADARA'S intelligence, or Madara with kaguya's power. There is no way hagoromo is defeating Madara then.

madara vs BZ: he got pawned around by guy but he survived and is still the winner, and in the fight with sasuke and naruto he wasnt at full strength like now, the two became equal while fighting combined against him while he "only" had one rinnegan and TT, his power would get a superboost after getting the other rinnegan and the rinne-sharingan, imagine a kaguya who can use her powers without letting them backfire at herself :I some crafty use of the bone-attacks plus teleportation and naruto/sasuke would be gone... he can also use PS without EMS that means that touching him is nearly impossible, and many many oher ways to use his incredible amount of abilitys

PS: Madara's true power and potential was never displayed as he was cut out by Black Zetsu right before he had a chance. He had the most potential of ANY character in the series.

 

[Enelsan]

Don't even try, i love Madara but he would get mid diffed by both Kaguya and Hagormoo.

 

[bowflex]

Kaguya, hago and hamura are the only ones who take on prime madara 1v1

 

[Zawerni]

So is this a Madara fap thread?

 

[PIOLO]

madara's arsenal still lingers until now.... even though momoshiki with kinishiki combined.

madara is on another level... i doubt kaguya shits on madara...he's VERY WISE GUY CANNOT BEAT BY A DUMB

 

[Seventh Sama]

Sure. Madara can beat goku too. :|

 

[PIOLO]

Well, in terms of Madara's general set of powers, either Naruto and Sasuke can fight Madara alone. Generally, Madara has RSM, Rinnegan and Rinne Sharingan. Well, both Naruto and Sasuke can counter all of those three general powers. Naruto can fight RSM since he has RSM, he can fight Rinnegan since he fought Sasuke. Rinne Sharingan can also be handled. Sasuke can also fight RSM since he fought Naruto who had RSM + Kurama, and he can fight Rinnegan since he has it. He can also counter Rinne Sharingan. This is the general aspect.

Even if you include KKG like Mokuton, even then Naruto and Sasuke can fight Madara alone.

But when you start to go in depth of powers, you see that Madara's advantages start to become more imminent. If Madara uses IT from Rinne Sharingan, Naruto is negged at once. If Madara uses Limbo from Rinnegan against Sasuke, Sasuke will struggle and ultimately lose since even though Limbo can be physically dealt with, it won't receive any harm by physical attacks. And it will be too much of a distraction for Sasuke to fight anything else Madara has to throw.

Plus, Madara has the advantage of immortality and regeneration plus infinite chakra and can ultimately outlast Naruto and Sasuke even if it is a stalemate fight, and can take some serious attacks as well without loss.

That was an individual overview. Although Naruto and Sasuke are individually equal to Madara, they have one weakness which Madara can throw at them. But if they are together, they can cancel out their partner's disadvantages against Madara's powers. Sasuke can save Naruto from IT and Naruto can fight Limbo for Sasuke. They not only cancel those disadvantages, but add to each others powers. In that case, Naruto and Sasuke combined can counter everything Madara has, and Madara can counter everything Naruto and Sasuke have together. Even Sasuke's dimension swap won't work on Rinne Sharingan Madara.

So conclusively, Naruto & Sasuke = Madara.

If you ask me this is also applicable in madara vs kaguya, madara has an edge

 

[Aquaglow]

Madara RULZZZZZ!!!!!! :hooray:

 

[Ansatsuken]

Battle smart my ass. If he was a battle smart no way Naruto and Sasuke can bully him. But it happen. Battle smart person able to fight Naruto and Sasuke even with disadvantages bcus they know how to devise a tactic/strategy depends on the situations.

Show me his battle smart when he encountering with tailed beast. What happen or what would be his strategy if he never/ not managed to get his real right rinnegan for limbo jutsu? How he will handle TB in that situation?

Madara just spamming a jutsus if we look back at how he fight. Or using the most powerful jutsu he can offered/access. Let see if he can fight like Itachi or Kakashi or even Shikamaru with lesser jutsu/weapons. People overlooked this bcus he was a legend that fought Hashirama (massive jutsus spammer), thats mean he must be battle smart.

 

[NineSNS]

Madz is legendary, but sorry, Kaguya and Hagoromo still take him.

 

[Enelsan]

Battle smart my ass. If he was a battle smart no way Naruto and Sasuke can bully him. But it happen. Battle smart person able to fight Naruto and Sasuke even with disadvantages bcus they know how to devise a tactic/strategy depends on the situations.

Show me his battle smart when he encountering with tailed beast. What happen or what would be his strategy if he never/ not managed to get his real right rinnegan for limbo jutsu? How he will handle TB in that situation?

Madara just spamming a jutsus if we look back at how he fight. Or using the most powerful jutsu he can offered/access. Let see if he can fight like Itachi or Kakashi or even Shikamaru with lesser jutsu/weapons. People overlooked this bcus he was a legend that fought Hashirama (massive jutsus spammer), thats mean he must be battle smart.

Not gonna lie, this post is really stupid.

Madara was really careless after getting Hashirama's healing (Which he said himself) And he did the same after absorbing the Juubi, he was playing with them all the time.

Madara grew up in war, he killed Elite Senjus before even getting the sharingan when he was still a kid, he fought the strongest ninja alive almost everyday until he was a grown man, he is one of the smartest and wisest characters in NV, he figured out Sasuke's Rinnegan ability in a few seconds.

Madara is one of the most skilled if not the most skilled ninja in NV, don't even try to deny this, Sasuke and Naruto aren't even close to his level.

 

[Xlad]

Oh, and it starts once again.

 

[PIOLO]

COME'ON GUYS let's just be honest here. until now icannot move-on the fact that madara is the second six path... in depth analysis madara has much more potential in any other character of naruto.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Not gonna lie, this post is really stupid.

Madara was really careless after getting Hashirama's healing (Which he said himself) And he did the same after absorbing the Juubi, he was playing with them all the time.

Madara grew up in war, he killed Elite Senjus before even getting the sharingan when he was still a kid, he fought the strongest ninja alive almost everyday until he was a grown man, he is one of the smartest and wisest characters in NV, he figured out Sasuke's Rinnegan ability in a few seconds.

Madara is one of the most skilled if not the most skilled ninja in NV, don't even try to deny this, Sasuke and Naruto aren't even close to his level.

The point here he get bully by Naruto and Sasuke. No other excuses you can gave here. He never said he playing around when he faced Naruto and Sasuke. What I saw from him was fear and in hurry to get back his other eye. Just two or three attacks from Naruto and Sasuke make him worried. Why? Battle Smart+Experience person can handle that situation well and able to fight back and not run away like chicken. He was a JJ for God sake.

Not many strategies Naruto and Sasuke used there to make Madara flee like headless chicken. Just Amenotejikara.

And what make you think he will not try to playing around when he face Kaguya or Hagoromo?

At bold: Not mean much. We cant used that as a reason why Madara is better than Kaguya and Hagoromo when he failed to displayed it many time in War arc as edo or alive or JJ

 

[Enelsan]

The point here he get bully by Naruto and Sasuke. No other excuses you can gave here. He never said he playing around when he faced Naruto and Sasuke. What I saw from him was fear and in hurry to get back his other eye. Just two or three attacks from Naruto and Sasuke make him worried. Why? Battle Smart+Experience person can handle that situation well and able to fight back and not run away like chicken. He was a JJ for God sake.

Not many strategies Naruto and Sasuke used there to make Madara flee like headless chicken. Just Amenotejikara.

Madara was playing with them, he went serious after casting Infinite Tsukyomi, he was also figuring out their new abilities

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''Naruto our game ends here, you are in the way of everyones happiness'' this idicates he wasn't even fighting them seriously, he didn't even bother attacking them, his main goal was infinite Tsukyomi, not fighting them, he started fighting seriously after casting IT but he got taken out.

And what make you think he will not try to playing around when he face Kaguya or Hagoromo?

I'm assuming this isn't a plot restricted Madara? Either way, Madara will lose against Kaguya and Hagormoo, i just said he is one of the most battle smart shinobis ever to live.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

So when sasuke and naruto are not a full power they get excuses


but when Madara an already op person is not at full power he gets mocked hated and not allowed an excuse yea the BS is real

 

[Mari Makinami]

tl dr

Kishimoto's word > ur fanfics

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Think about it this way: If Madara could fight Kaguya honestly, would he have been negged by Black Zetsu? He's far below her, that's all you need to know.

Hagoromo V Madara is a pointless matchup, we know nothing about either of their powers, since Madara got wrecked by BZ, and Hagoromo never fought. I would give it to Madara, if only because i hate Hagoromo.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Read about half of it. Limbo gets negged as Hago can see/sense it.

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

Nope sorry. Big fan of Madz but no way. We just don't know his full potential.