About Kaguya's backstory, Hagoromo and Hamura developlment

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First I must admit that so far I am enjoying this watching backstory led by anime studio, really nice job. Well it was good episode and nicely done. I am happy that we get finally some backstory of Kaguya including a bit life from their children Hagoromo and Hamura. Also I really love what they to do to make ootsutsuki characters more deeper then they were presented in manga. However I dislike fast pacing of hagoromo and Hamura to being grown ups and even lack of Kaguya's bond with them, honestly I would prefer to see it better done with progress like:

babies Hagoromo and Hamura - Kaguya loving them deeply while doing some dark stuff in background but they are not aware
kids Hagoromo and Hamura - Kaguya caring about her sons and rasing them up while keep terrorizing people.
early teens Hagoromo and Hamura - Kaguya caring and loving as they look at to her but sometimes they are not obeying
medium teens Hagoromo and Hamura - Kaguya feeling bad as they like to hang around a lot of them own so they are esacping from her grasp and she being afraid of them finding out. Hagoromo and Hamura being suspicious
late teens Hagoromo and Hamura - Kaguya neglecting them a bit while doing anything she was to do. Hagoromo and Hamura find out truth and try to oppose their mother
adults Hagoromo and Hamura - Kaguya want their chakra back as she suspect betrayal as they push and try to influnce her to stop destroying world.

Whole Kaguya's caring and mother side in opposite to her's terryfing pressence and feeling betrayed while wanting their chakra back.

Also the whole Divine ki plot, seems like Kaguya planted it in ground so eventually she would aqcuire great power.

Also I don't like Hagoromo need to go through sharigan-rinnegan evolution. It just steal a bit uniquality and greatness as he was only one stated to master Rinnegan and awoken it through normal eyes. Also Connecting to toad sage mode is also bad, would be better if Hagoromo and Hamura taught frog, snake and snail who are know as nowadays sage animals.

Sumary:

+ Kaguya's interraction with her sons
+ Hagoromo and Hamura brothership
+ Hagoromo and Hamura having extraordinary powers
+ Gammaru appearing before them
+ Kaguya's IT
+ well done
+ nice animation
+ good pace
+ Connection of Kaguya and Divine Tree aka compatible with Boruto movie book mentions of Ootsutsuki and Divine Tree.

- Lack of explanation of reason why Kaguya acted like that.
- Lack of Hagoromo and Hamura's growing up time and Kaguya changing her behaviour to them as they were growing up
- Hagoromo and Hamura not having senjutsu powers and being taught by gammaru, should be otherwise
- No RMS Hagoromo and Hamura until they were though by Gammamaru
- Lack of Hagoromo and Hamura training with Kaguya
- no emotions or feelings of Kaguya. Lack of conflict between her Mother caring side and being all powerfull and knowing what is better for you

Possible plot for explaining Kaguya which could go well with manga and databook, also movies:

Since ever certain clan of human looking living organisms had been living on some planet. All of them wee incredible powerfull but one day one of them found out ability to create devious seed which could use life energy of planet and even people to sprout into Tree. This Tree made amazing looking and feeling fruit so one crazy guy consumed it and then either he forced rest to obey him or they tried to rebel him so there was slaughter among clansmen. One of the surviving was teen girl comming from main family of Ootsutsuki called Kaguya and she managed to escape and keeping in her memory image and mention of special seed being made by one of her clansmen she decided to try it. Well it couldbe parents who helped her escape before dying.
Kaguya managed to create such seed and it dropped into planet earth where later shinobi world would develop. Kaguya initialy was concerned and ddin't want to enslave everyone as she didn't want to become like "him" however after loosing hope in humanity she decided to do it as it was only way even although she wanted to stop wars and any hate ironically she did the same as the one she despised...

all in all: 8/10, Plot could be done a bit better
 

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My god, full on review here, but 100% agree the episode gave us a good backstory on something we have wanted for a long time.
 

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Well Kaguya as well other ootsutsuki know about divine tree and it was stated( in boruto movie novel) that there is more divine tree.
Maybe Ootsutsuki or their ancestors created seads of shinju and planted on the planets. Momoshiki stated that Ootsutsuki can eat/ingest chakra as for example pills and can get youth, strenght and life forces. Kaguya got rinne-sharingan and hers "gods" powers after eating Chakra fruit and it gives the same ability as shinju has (absorbing natural energy). It would mean that natural energy is key to theirs power. We didn't see yet how Hagoromo obtained rinnegan but what if natural energy unlocks in Ootsutsuki body that kind of chakra what responsible for unlocking rinnegan, rinne-sharingan?

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Would have been cool.
 

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First I must admit that so far I am enjoying this watching backstory led by anime studio, really nice job. Well it was good episode and nicely done. I am happy that we get finally some backstory of Kaguya including a bit life from their children Hagoromo and Hamura. Also I really love what they to do to make ootsutsuki characters more deeper then they were presented in manga. However I dislike fast pacing of hagoromo and Hamura to being grown ups and even lack of Kaguya's bond with them, honestly I would prefer to see it better done with progress like:

babies Hagoromo and Hamura - Kaguya loving them deeply while doing some dark stuff in background but they are not aware
kids Hagoromo and Hamura - Kaguya caring about her sons and rasing them up while keep terrorizing people.
early teens Hagoromo and Hamura - Kaguya caring and loving as they look at to her but sometimes they are not obeying
medium teens Hagoromo and Hamura - Kaguya feeling bad as they like to hang around a lot of them own so they are esacping from her grasp and she being afraid of them finding out. Hagoromo and Hamura being suspicious
late teens Hagoromo and Hamura - Kaguya neglecting them a bit while doing anything she was to do. Hagoromo and Hamura find out truth and try to oppose their mother
adults Hagoromo and Hamura - Kaguya want their chakra back as she suspect betrayal as they push and try to influnce her to stop destroying world.

Whole Kaguya's caring and mother side in opposite to her's terryfing pressence and feeling betrayed while wanting their chakra back.

Also the whole Divine ki plot, seems like Kaguya planted it in ground so eventually she would aqcuire great power.

Also I don't like Hagoromo need to go through sharigan-rinnegan evolution. It just steal a bit uniquality and greatness as he was only one stated to master Rinnegan and awoken it through normal eyes. Also Connecting to toad sage mode is also bad, would be better if Hagoromo and Hamura taught frog, snake and snail who are know as nowadays sage animals.

Sumary:

+ Kaguya's interraction with her sons
+ Hagoromo and Hamura brothership
+ Hagoromo and Hamura having extraordinary powers
+ Gammaru appearing before them
+ Kaguya's IT
+ well done
+ nice animation
+ good pace
+ Connection of Kaguya and Divine Tree aka compatible with Boruto movie book mentions of Ootsutsuki and Divine Tree.

- Lack of explanation of reason why Kaguya acted like that.
- Lack of Hagoromo and Hamura's growing up time and Kaguya changing her behaviour to them as they were growing up
- Hagoromo and Hamura not having senjutsu powers and being taught by gammaru, should be otherwise
- No RMS Hagoromo and Hamura until they were though by Gammamaru
- Lack of Hagoromo and Hamura training with Kaguya
- no emotions or feelings of Kaguya. Lack of conflict between her Mother caring side and being all powerfull and knowing what is better for you

Possible plot for explaining Kaguya which could go well with manga and databook, also movies:

Since ever certain clan of human looking living organisms had been living on some planet. All of them wee incredible powerfull but one day one of them found out ability to create devious seed which could use life energy of planet and even people to sprout into Tree. This Tree made amazing looking and feeling fruit so one crazy guy consumed it and then either he forced rest to obey him or they tried to rebel him so there was slaughter among clansmen. One of the surviving was teen girl comming from main family of Ootsutsuki called Kaguya and she managed to escape and keeping in her memory image and mention of special seed being made by one of her clansmen she decided to try it. Well it couldbe parents who helped her escape before dying.
Kaguya managed to create such seed and it dropped into planet earth where later shinobi world would develop. Kaguya initialy was concerned and ddin't want to enslave everyone as she didn't want to become like "him" however after loosing hope in humanity she decided to do it as it was only way even although she wanted to stop wars and any hate ironically she did the same as the one she despised...

all in all: 8/10, Plot could be done a bit better

- pace is not good, it could have been a lot better.
- the plot lacks a LOT of explanation when they could have easily done that with the story material they have.
-when we need a long filler they choose to make a short one, that shows their incompetence.

-they didn't show how kaguya went from casting tsukuyomi on everyone to getting only some people in it.

-if kaguya was pregnant from this king and ended killing him, and if the two brothers are not twins (there is an elder brother) then how could this be ? that shows how stupid / lazy they are.

-this filler is not well done, they just take the narration of madara in the manga and apply it litteraly with no effort. while the narration of madara was taken from a legend. legends lack a lot of specificities and that was why this filler was needed in the first place.

-the first episode of the filler was awful.

I give it a 2/10 because they already had a GREAT STORY they didn't have to make one. and with all that they made a shitty work. I'm surprised at how this studio is still working.
 
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I would love to see the entire development arc of Kaguya whatsoever in a movie, Just please do it good.
What I'm interested about (despite being filler, but really it is so damn good) is how would Byakugan users prosper in numbers if the only known seemingly dojutsu wielders so far is Kaguya, hagoromo and Hamura?

We do know that after sealing the Ten tails, Hamura went to the moon with some clan members.. I do hope this would come into play. But I'm not expecting high.
 
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