About Bee, Yamato, the scroll and Edo Kages

[Floydical]

1. Bee is alive because the 8 tails wasn't really extracted from him. When he used the 8 tails power, he always released it into full beast mode. It was equivalent to setting the beast free from his body (meaning breaking his seal entirely). The only difference was that they were friendly and it always came back to him. When the 8 tails was about to be captured, he forced Bee into the tentacle and cut it off, therefore saving him. Madara simply sucked up a freed beast that had no master at the time.

Its completely different from Naruto's extraction who had not yet achieved full beast mode. The Kyuubi was still connected to him (ie the seal wasn't completely broken) and therefore he was affected by the extraction.

2. Yamato is not evil. He's not breaking from the spiral and planning to attack the alliance. Look close, he was affected by IT the instant he was released, bottom middle panel:

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3. The scroll is not summoning anyone, its an object falling and piercing the scroll. It might be Madara's headband, as some have theorized. This might affect the capability of the sealing weapons.

4. The edo kages not being affected by IT is comparable to Madara not being able to become a Jin without a real body. The Biju basically need a warm vessel to reside in, similarly it seems the IT only works on flesh and blood beings. Knowing Edos are made of dust and don't have actual working organs like eyes and a brain, it makes sense it doesn't actually affect them.

 

[ObitoGokuKakashi]

Nice I agree with everything you just said.

 

[LuckyMan]

The only person who can help tenten with the scroll now is Darui. He knows how they work and he also has the Seven Star Sword.

I think Hiruzen will save the day.

I don't agree with The Bee thing, if he broke his seal entirely he would need to reseal it everytime he went back into base. Maybe madara only took the yin/yang half, like in Naruto's case.

 

[HENI]

Kinkaku and Ginkaku will make a return

 

[Angelic.]

nice thread. not sure whats going on with the scroll but it probably involves plot lo

just checked and i do see its madaras headband. it was drawn bad and i was sleepy when i read it tho so i didnt see it.

 

[Floydical]

Nice I agree with everything you just said.

Thx!

The only person who can help tenten with the scroll now is Darui. He knows how they work and he also has the Seven Star Sword.

I think Hiruzen will save the day.

I don't agree with The Bee thing, if he broke his seal entirely he would need to reseal it everytime he went back into base. Maybe madara only took the yin/yang half, like in Naruto's case.

I said its equivalent to breaking the seal entirely. The seal itself might not actually break, but the beast is still free by every definition of the word. If the 8 tails wasn't on good terms with Bee, he could have simply disobeyed him and tried to get away by killing him every time Bee went beast mode.

 

[Filo]

I was really wondering what fell on the scrolls, but isn't tenten now under the genjutsu

 

[Draven]

3. The scroll is not summoning anyone, its an object falling and piercing the scroll. It might be Madara's headband, as some have theorized. This might affect the capability of the sealing weapons.

i just magnified and cleaned up the image it is actually madaras headband that hit the scroll its definitely the headband madara ripped off his head to reveal the third eye and it hit the pot on the scroll and pierced it

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[Floydical]

I was really wondering what fell on the scrolls, but isn't tenten now under the genjutsu

Likely Madara's headband. In truth, yes, she and any Cloud shinobi that may help her should be put under. But perhaps an edo Kage will come across them and use them.

i just magnified and cleaned up the image it is actually madaras headband that hit the scroll its definitely the headband madara ripped off his head to reveal the third eye and it hit the pot on the scroll and pierced it

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Definitely seems that way.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

I liked the explanation you gave for the Edo Tenseis not being affected by the IT.

 

[Floydical]

I liked the explanation you gave for the Edo Tenseis not being affected by the IT.

Thanks, I feel like it has to do with them being made of dust.