About Ashura's Rikudou Mode Awakening...

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Hagoromo's second child. Cared for his older brother, and strove hard to become like Indra, but he was not good enough. However, by joining forces with his companions, he awakened and obtained true power. Before long he had inherited his father's “Ninshuu”.
Just as it was translated from Ashura's bio in the Databook 4.

It mentions that Ashura awakened Rikudou Mode by "joining forces with his companions", this could mean two things:

• He had chakra's borrowed or joined with all the Tailed Beast. Which kinda does awaken Rikudou Mode.

• He used Ninshuu with his companions and somehow awakened the dormant Rikudou Mode inside of him, which should make sense since "awakening" power isn't something directly given. Its rather passed down.


Which one do you think is more likely?



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Indra must've had Rinnegan to counter this right? Or senjutsu.
 

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Hagoromo said that his power blossomed through hard work.

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Could be interpreted in both ways. He obviously needed help from others to match his brother's power. Whether this help is training or some magical voodoo is unknown.
 

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Bijuu chakra doesn't grant rikudo mode, one can only get rikudo mode via hogoromo or becoming the jinchuriki of the juubi. If hogoromo never gave naruto his power naruto would not get RSM even if he had all the bijuu chakra.

Option two makes more sense, ashura awakened RSM through ninshuu. Either that or hogoromo gave him the power
 

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The second one. Ashura had no knowledge of the nine bijuu a back then.
Bijuu chakra doesn't grant rikudo mode, one can only get rikudo mode via hogoromo or becoming the jinchuriki of the juubi. If hogoromo never gave naruto his power naruto would not get RSM even if he had all the bijuu chakra.

Option two makes more sense, ashura awakened RSM through ninshuu. Either that or hogoromo gave him the power
Yeah it has to be the second one. Kinda makes more sense.
 

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First of all i don't think ashura has rsm,it was never stated in manga and db. Surely,he is a senjutsu user,it's most likely he awakened something similar just like indra(sharingan) him having rsm is stupid,if he had it then why did indra not have rinnegan. It's also likely he had bijuu help,precisely kurama since his "ashura avatar" looks like kurama and has 9 tails :sdo:
 

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Well! Ashura is the son of Hogoromo, so he probably doesn't need the things Naruto & everyone else with Rikudou chakra needed to get to the point he did. Senju/Uchiha/Uzumaki ect.. is a watered down version of the Otsutsuki blood line so it would make sense as to why they had to go the links they did to get the same results Ashura got.

I doubt Ashura had any bijuu because Kurama would've mention him just like he mention all his other jinchuuriki. Ashura has Otsutsuki blood direct an shouldn't be put in the same field as any Senju/Uchiha/Uzumaki ect to describe his power.
Ninshuu is not ninjutsu and Ashura probably had a better understanding than any shinobi using ninjutsu with the knowledge ninshuu at his disposal.
 

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The 1st option is the only correct option. Asura possessed Six Paths Sage Mode as he was shown wielding Truthseeker orbs.

The power of all of the Biju is the source of Six Paths Sage Mode as stated in Shikamaru Hiden.

Hagoromo made Asura the meeting point for the Biju long ago, just like he did with Naruto. He doesn't need to be a Jinchuriki to become the meeting point for the Biju.
 

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Makes me wonder if he used ninshuu to connect and borrow power. He obtained that power through hard work though so I'd also wonder if it took hardwork to manage to establish a link through ninshuu. Let it be the Bijuu or other people. That's if that's even true..
 

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The 1st option is the only correct option. Asura possessed Six Paths Sage Mode as he was shown wielding Truthseeker orbs.

The power of all of the Biju is the source of Six Paths Sage Mode as stated in Shikamaru Hiden.

Hagoromo made Asura the meeting point for the Biju long ago, just like he did with Naruto. He doesn't need to be a Jinchuriki to become the meeting point for the Biju.
power of bijuu isn't the source of rikudo sage mode,rikudo sage mode is hagoromo power just like the rinnegan and possesing tsb doesn't mean he is a user of rsm unless you're saying hamura,toneri and kaguya had six paths sage mode.
 

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power of bijuu isn't the source of rikudo sage mode,rikudo sage mode is hagoromo power just like the rinnegan and possesing tsb doesn't mean he is a user of rsm unless you're saying hamura,toneri and kaguya had six paths sage mode.
Naruto & Asura's Six Paths Sage Mode is merely one method of obtaining Six Paths Senjutsu.
The power of the Biju is the source of this mode as blatantly stated in Shikamaru Hiden. Not really sure why you're giving me your opinion when official material disagrees.

Power of all the Biju=Power of Ten Tails=Hagoromo's power. All of these produce the same end result, Six Paths Senjutsu.

The databook blatantly states obtaining the power of all the Biju grants the same power as Hagoromo.

No, Hagoromo, Hamura & Kaguya do not possess Six Paths Sage Mode. They don't have any sort of "mode". They naturally possess this power.
 
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Just as it was translated from Ashura's bio in the Databook 4.

It mentions that Ashura awakened Rikudou Mode by "joining forces with his companions", this could mean two things:

• He had chakra's borrowed or joined with all the Tailed Beast. Which kinda does awaken Rikudou Mode.

• He used Ninshuu with his companions and somehow awakened the dormant Rikudou Mode inside of him, which should make sense since "awakening" power isn't something directly given. Its rather passed down.


Which one do you think is more likely?



OT:

Indra must've had Rinnegan to counter this right? Or senjutsu.
I really wish they would have made a series based on this as well, boruto just feels generic
 

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He likely received it from Hagoromo.

There's absolutely no reason why Ashura managed to awaken a Six Paths Power with his own Chakra when Indra couldn't awaken the Rinnegan with his own Chakra as Ashura's Chakra is = to Indra's at best.
 

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Naruto & Asura's Six Paths Sage Mode is merely one method of obtaining Six Paths Senjutsu.
The power of the Biju is the source of this mode as blatantly stated in Shikamaru Hiden. Not really sure why you're giving me your opinion when official material disagrees.

Power of all the Biju=Power of Ten Tails=Hagoromo's power. All of these produce the same end result, Six Paths Senjutsu.

The databook blatantly states obtaining the power of all the Biju grants the same power as Hagoromo.

No, Hagoromo, Hamura & Kaguya do not possess Six Paths Sage Mode. They don't have any sort of "mode". They naturally possess this power.
You know you're the one making assumptions,shikamaru hiden,databook and manga doesn't state such,shikamuru hiden said that naruto holds all the tailed beasts chakra and never said anything about rsm,db and manga state show that you can obtain rsm by being the ten tails jinchuriki and not possesing bijuu chakra different things,six paths senjutsu is hagoromo exclusive power this is backed up by the manga,when madara became the juubi jin and gained six paths senjutsu,he said so this is the power of the sage of six paths which can be obtain by being the juubi jin or the sage granting you the power,just because someone has gudoudama it doesn't mean he has six path senjutsu (the power of hagoromo)from what we've seen gudodama is a feature within the otsusuki clan or kaguya and her sons to be precise. the stupidity of nb members amazes me,they never back up their statements with manga or db facts or always make assumptions or interprete them wrongly.

I don't know why they keep saying ashura had rsm,first of all it was never stated in manga,db or any naruto media,it doesn't make sense at all,it doesn't go along with kishi equality theme,i mean rsm is the body of the sage equal to or evwn greater than his eye power the rinnegan,how were indra and ashura equals when indra had sharingan unless indra sharingan is now hago rinnegan equal. Users of six paths senjutsu always have a distininctive feature,madara and obito began to resemble the sage and naruto had his cloak.

When seen ashura showed no distinctive feature that showed he had six paths senjutsu. Hago said ashura through cooperation and hard work had awakened his bodily power,it would be something similar to six paths senjutsu like the sharingan. Some nb members ahoul think at times,such,such stupidity.

They say ashura avatar had nothing to do with bijuu,yet it resembles kurama avatar,it's face looks luke that of baby kurama and it has 9 tails but it doesn't have anything to do with the bijuu,how stupid can people be.
 

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You know you're the one making assumptions,shikamaru hiden,databook and manga doesn't state such,shikamuru hiden said that naruto holds all the tailed beasts chakra and never said anything about rsm,db and manga state show that you can obtain rsm by being the ten tails jinchuriki and not possesing bijuu chakra different things,six paths senjutsu is hagoromo exclusive power this is backed up by the manga,when madara became the juubi jin and gained six paths senjutsu,he said so this is the power of the sage of six paths which can be obtain by being the juubi jin or the sage granting you the power,just because someone has gudoudama it doesn't mean he has six path senjutsu (the power of hagoromo)from what we've seen gudodama is a feature within the otsusuki clan or kaguya and her sons to be precise. the stupidity of nb members amazes me,they never back up their statements with manga or db facts or always make assumptions or interprete them wrongly.
"The Nine Tails was still living inside Naruto. There were also remnants of the other 8 bijuu inside him as well. In that way, you could say he was a human pillar for the power of the Ten Tails. In the last war, Obito had become a human pillar for the Ten Tails and gained chakra rivalling that of the Sage of the Six Paths. Naruto, who’d taken the bijuu into him as well, had some of the Sage’s power even now."

Naruto is a pillar for the power of the Ten Tails due to having the chakra of every Biju. You don't have an argument here.

Are we really going to start grasping at straws now? Becoming the Ten Tails Jinchuriki & having the power of all 9 Biju are the exact same thing.

Truthseekers are not Hagoromo's power specifically. I don't know how you came to such a stupid conclusion.

Madara stated:
mada: this is the rikudou power, huh…\\
mada: the only thing left is the left eye\\


He merely said that he possessed the Six Paths power. The Six Paths power is the power that Hagoromo possesses, but he is not the only individual that possesses this power.


Hagoromo & Hamura naturally possesses the Six Paths power. It can be replicated by either becoming a Ten Tails Jinchuriki or gaining the chakra of all 9 biju.
I don't know why they keep saying ashura had rsm,first of all it was never stated in manga,db or any naruto media,it doesn't make sense at all,it doesn't go along with kishi equality theme,i mean rsm is the body of the sage equal to or evwn greater than his eye power the rinnegan,how were indra and ashura equals when indra had sharingan unless indra sharingan is now hago rinnegan equal. Users of six paths senjutsu always have a distininctive feature,madara and obito began to resemble the sage and naruto had his cloak.

When seen ashura showed no distinctive feature that showed he had six paths senjutsu. Hago said ashura through cooperation and hard work had awakened his bodily power,it would be something similar to six paths senjutsu like the sharingan. Some nb members ahoul think at times,such,such stupidity.

They say ashura avatar had nothing to do with bijuu,yet it resembles kurama avatar,it's face looks luke that of baby kurama and it has 9 tails but it doesn't have anything to do with the bijuu,how stupid can people be.
There is no equality theme with Indra & Asura. Hagoromo stated that only Asura was given power.

How you think Asura's mode should look is irrelevant. He possessed the Six Paths Senjutsu as shown by his Truthseeker orbs. The only way this would have been possible is if he possessed the power of the Biju. The power of cooperation as was stated, correct?

I'm not expecting an actual counter though. I don't think that you can even properly comprehend any of the facts that I posted let alone form a logical rebuttal.
 

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The avatar looks nothing like any of the Bijuu

He achieved it without their power.
But, baby Kurama has some strong similarities with Ashura's avatar, those similarities can't be denied.

OT:His rikudou mode can come from all the ninshuu humans that believed in his cause.
Hagoromo spread ninshuu (he probably made some humans able to use ninshuu) and said that Ashura was the keeper of ninshuu.
What would happen if every ninshuu human gives his power (power that comes from Hagoromo) to Ashura?
Maybe he could catch a portion of Hagoromo's huge power like that.
It would explain why Hagoromo said that this power blossomed into Ashura's body through the help of others and hard work.
That would explain why Ashura believed that love was the true power that could make anything come true.
 
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