[Spoilers] A word about Jack being back

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1. He destroyed a ship (something any top tier can do with 1-2 techniques, not a big deal here).

2. He managed to survive, meaning he was able to escape/pull out of the fight

3. He got injured pretty bad.. the " Do i look dead?" pretty much emphasizes his heavy injuries


4. If Fujitora/Sengoku/Tsuru got heavily damaged by Jack, then i'm sorry, but thats shitty writing.
1. It is impressive when you have Fujitora, Sengoku, and Tsuru defending those ships.
2. Which is impressive when you have Fujitora, Sengoku, and Tsuru attacking you.
3. He just said that because he saw that the newspapers said he was dead.
 

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So u think fodders protected him from Sengoku, Isshou, Tsuru :bdpf:
Sengoku - DF user
Fujitora - Df user
Tsuru - DF user


Location - on the sea

Ships - 3

Jack - a whole armada


Hopefully you're able to understand, it has nothing to do with them being able to protect him from Sengoku/Fujitora/Tsuru, but them being able to provide support in a rescue mission on the seas. Where DF users (along with Jack) are at a disadvantage.

1. It is impressive when you have Fujitora, Sengoku, and Tsuru defending those ships.
2. Which is impressive when you have Fujitora, Sengoku, and Tsuru attacking you.
3. He just said that because he saw that the newspapers said he was dead.
1. They were on 1 ship.
2. We don't know if he confronted all 3, and we don't know if all 3 fought. Considering that isn't likely the case since they are in the middle of the ocean.
3. I understand that now.
 

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Sengoku - DF user
Fujitora - Df user
Tsuru - DF user


Location - on the sea

Ships - 3

Jack - a whole armada


Hopefully you're able to understand, it has nothing to do with them being able to protect him from Sengoku/Fujitora/Tsuru, but them being able to provide support in a rescue mission on the seas. Where DF users (along with Jack) are at a disadvantage.
Nope.
Isshou can use his meteors to destroy those ships.
But for some strange reason Jack's ship was unharmed. That means Jack must hav destroyed Meteors.
Another thing we should see is "Jack sayin Do I look dead". If he was seriously injured & fodders protected/saved him then he will never say something like this.
I think he destroyed Doffy's ship while fighting Isshou, Sengoku. Once Doffy's ship was completely destroyed he escaped wit his men.
 

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Sengoku - DF user
Fujitora - Df user
Tsuru - DF user


Location - on the sea

Ships - 3

Jack - a whole armada


Hopefully you're able to understand, it has nothing to do with them being able to protect him from Sengoku/Fujitora/Tsuru, but them being able to provide support in a rescue mission on the seas. Where DF users (along with Jack) are at a disadvantage.



1. They were on 1 ship.
2. We don't know if he confronted all 3, and we don't know if all 3 fought. Considering that isn't likely the case since they are in the middle of the ocean.
3. I understand that now.
1. Lame excuse. All the ships were close together so they should have no problem with defending all the ships.
2. Of course all three fought him, and this should be obvious. Do you seriously think that one or two of them would just sit back and watch while Jack attacks their men?
 

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yea three ships with some strong fighters> bunch of fodders that lost to minks.
1 ship with 3 strong fighters + 2 ships with fodders vs An armada of ships that held off the minks for 5 days straight + 1 ship with strong fighter.


1. Lame excuse. All the ships were close together so they should have no problem with defending all the ships.
2. Of course all three fought him, and this should be obvious. Do you seriously think that one or two of them would just sit back and watch while Jack attacks their men?
1. "lame excuse", you should've came up with something better rather than that. "they should have no problem with defending all the ships".. yes because Uzumaki Macho says so... sadly thats not how it works. Idk how they're gonna defend from a surprise attack on a ship which they are not on, unless all 3 of them are wide awake and out in the open looking out for enemies.

2. "this should be obvious"... again, because Uzumaki Macho said so?
 

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Nope.
Isshou can use his meteors to destroy those ships.
But for some strange reason Jack's ship was unharmed. That means Jack must hav destroyed Meteors.
Another thing we should see is "Jack sayin Do I look dead". If he was seriously injured & fodders protected/saved him then he will never say something like this.
I think he destroyed Doffy's ship while fighting Isshou, Sengoku. Once Doffy's ship was completely destroyed he escaped wit his men.
- being injured and being dead are 2 entirely different things.

- we literally have no idea if Fujitora/Sengoku even fought him.

- You also then add on the fact that it looked like night time when Jack attacked/was going to attack them, and the weather seemed pretty stormy. So i doubt Fujitora would be doing any meteors in that weather, when it'd affect his own ships as well.
 

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- being injured and being dead are 2 entirely different things.
what does this has to do with anything i said?

- we literally have no idea if Fujitora/Sengoku even fought him.
so u think fodder marines gave him those injuries? suddenly fodder marines are stronger then minks

- You also then add on the fact that it looked like night time when Jack attacked/was going to attack them, and the weather seemed pretty stormy. So i doubt Fujitora would be doing any meteors in that weather, when it'd affect his own ships as well.
1)Jack came alone. U can see in this scan
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He didnot brought a fleet.
2)His crew was not ready to fight Marines/admirals. It was Jack who wants to attack those ships.
3)Isshou Observation haki is one of the best in OPverse. I dont think weather will affect his meteor power.
 

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1 ship with 3 strong fighters + 2 ships with fodders vs An armada of ships that held off the minks for 5 days straight + 1 ship with strong fighter.



1. "lame excuse", you should've came up with something better rather than that. "they should have no problem with defending all the ships".. yes because Uzumaki Macho says so... sadly thats not how it works. Idk how they're gonna defend from a surprise attack on a ship which they are not on, unless all 3 of them are wide awake and out in the open looking out for enemies.

2. "this should be obvious"... again, because Uzumaki Macho said so?
Dude ur reaching too much just accept you're wrong lol. And blaze just reminded it was only one ship which was jacks. And fodder don't make a difference, WB can kill thousands of fodder with easier difficulty than taking on kuzan. The guys who fought minks were fodder, they kept losing and needed to be replaced and only Jack was the one they couldn't take out.

And since that fleet didn't come what happened it was just jack, even if he didn't fight all three which I believe he didn't it's impressive that he survived that engagement after an exhausting fight with minks. The guy had a 1 billion berry hype also so him being quite the monster makes a lot of sense.
 
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