[Theory] a weird thread to read =the 2nd Madara's reveal

[minamoto]

i go straight to the point !!

1st i have kestion....have we seen the rest of tobi's mystery explanations like why itachi and kisame called tobi madara despite them being smart shinobies?? ..did w see how obito was able to controll kurama with his sharingan?...did we see how tobi manipulated the Mizukages??...NO WE DIDN'T..BUT WHY???


it's becuz all those explanations remaining will be when the reall identity of tobi get revealed...in other words Tobi isn't just obito...but the reall identity if tobi is UCHIHA MADARA MANIPULATING OBTO !!!...let me explain it again plz........Tobi = Madara +spiral zetsu+obito...but the dominant tobi is madara...that means madara and spiral zetsu were inside obito's body...but madara controlls both spiral zetsu and obito...and give them some freedom according to situations..

-Guys plzz the goofy tobi was none then spiral zetsu possessing obito's body...the zetsus have ability to be integrated within humain bodies...just like how 6 white zetsus were inside then come out from sasukes body

-the rest of tobi's mystery explanations that i meantioned above are all related to madara's abilities...thats why kishi skipped them...becuz when the 2nd madara emerges he will explain us why he was the real tobi...

-Obito's flashbacks aren't the truth why?..becuz he was crushed by a boulder wich cuzed him to have delusions and some problems of self -identity....when obito was still fainting old madara sealed his other part within obito, withiut obito's knowledge....obito's flashbacks are just truth from obito's perspective...the reall truth of tobi is in madara's flashbacks......plzz Guys if you think obito fought konan and used izanagi then you are wrong..it was Madara who fought konan and used izanagi...while obito was being fully controlled....in conclusion...what weve seen was just the simplex part in chapter 599 i mean obito uchiha...this reveal is for kids or for those who dont like complex part of the manga...becuz kishimoto also make this manga for kids...but becuz kishi make manga for all ages..he created a complex part...wich can't be found out untill one decipher the manga well and read all manga from the start....then one will understand that the true masked man was indeed Madara...

in the end i this : plss is there anyone here in the base who belives me?...or suppport me?...plz give me your answer in the Section of comments...

 

[Mattek2008]

Obito is Madara, or rather was. Thouse who follow Madara,and hold his ideals are Madara. According to the man imself

I do however, think that Madara's will, the Black Rods implanted in both Nagato and Obito did however influence them to some degree.

 

[minamoto]

Obito is Madara, or rather was. Thouse who follow Madara,and hold his ideals are Madara. According to the man imself

I do however, think that Madara's will, the Black Rods implanted in both Nagato and Obito did however influence them to some degree.

noo when i say the 2nd madara or tobimadara i mean uchiha madara ..but he is an empty shell of his formerself..

 

[Timolrickx]

I am pretty sure that you are halfway wrong.
If Madara "was" tobi.. why didnt he revive himself with Rinne tensei yet ?

 

[Appuk]

After Readin ur theory I think May be Its a possibility

 

[minamoto]

I am pretty sure that you are halfway wrong.
If Madara "was" tobi.. why didnt he revive himself with Rinne tensei yet ?

you said your self....madara didnt revive himself...becuz one can not revive himself wigth rinnetensei...thats why madara needed some1 to revive him...and since tobimadara is none then madara thats why the 2nd madara let obito,act by his free will to make him target rinnetensei on madara.

 

[Appuk]

After Readin ur theory I think May be Its possible

 

[minamoto]

After Readin ur theory I think May be Its a possibility

thank you....

 

[xyungmili]

honestly, i dont know what I just read. i read this like 3 times

 

[rockleesajid]

I think there's a possibility

 

[minamoto]

honestly, i dont know what I just read. i read this like 3 times

explain......

 

[Mr Hiru]

i go straight to the point !!

1st i have kestion....have we seen the rest of tobi's mystery explanations like why itachi and kisame called tobi madara despite them being smart shinobies?? ..did w see how obito was able to controll kurama with his sharingan?...did we see how tobi manipulated the Mizukages??...NO WE DIDN'T..BUT WHY???


it's becuz all those explanations remaining will be when the reall identity of tobi get revealed...in other words Tobi isn't just obito...but the reall identity if tobi is UCHIHA MADARA MANIPULATING OBTO !!!...let me explain it again plz........Tobi = Madara +spiral zetsu+obito...but the dominant tobi is madara...that means madara and spiral zetsu were inside obito's body...but madara controlls both spiral zetsu and obito...and give them some freedom according to situations..

-Guys plzz the goofy tobi was none then spiral zetsu possessing obito's body...the zetsus have ability to be integrated within humain bodies...just like how 6 white zetsus were inside then come out from sasukes body

-the rest of tobi's mystery explanations that i meantioned above are all related to madara's abilities...thats why kishi skipped them...becuz when the 2nd madara emerges he will explain us why he was the real tobi...

-Obito's flashbacks aren't the truth why?..becuz he was crushed by a boulder wich cuzed him to have delusions and some problems of self -identity....when obito was still fainting old madara sealed his other part within obito, withiut obito's knowledge....obito's flashbacks are just truth from obito's perspective...the reall truth of tobi is in madara's flashbacks......plzz Guys if you think obito fought konan and used izanagi then you are wrong..it was Madara who fought konan and used izanagi...while obito was being fully controlled....in conclusion...what weve seen was just the simplex part in chapter 599 i mean obito uchiha...this reveal is for kids or for those who dont like complex part of the manga...becuz kishimoto also make this manga for kids...but becuz kishi make manga for all ages..he created a complex part...wich can't be found out untill one decipher the manga well and read all manga from the start....then one will understand that the true masked man was indeed Madara...

in the end i this : plss is there anyone here in the base who belives me?...or suppport me?...plz give me your answer in the Section of comments...

The fact is that Obito BECAME Madara in the past when Madara died, when he became the savior of the world, and the proof relies in the last chapters where Madara stated that Obito WAS Madara.

And the Obito voluntarely said that he was no longer lost, that the current 'he' was the one who wanted to become Hokage, that he is Obito Uchiha, meaning that HE WAS MADARA'S NEWER AVATAR.

Chapter 665 explains this very well.

But also, as Obito "voluntarely" stated that the current he was the one who wanted to become hokage, we also know that he was not being controlled in the past. Why do I know that? Because Obito had these visions while being the Juubi Jinchuuriki, meaning that Madara did not have any kind of control over Obito in that context, and still Obito did never stated that he was being controlled.

I can say that you had the right hunch when telling that Spiral was with Obito at the time of Obito being the masked man, but I can't buy the thing about Obito being controlled by Madara.

Brainwashed is a far more acceptable answer than the farfetched possibility of Madara controlling Obito while being dead (and no, Kuro Zetsu is not an acceptable answer in this case, because Madara was in a very feeble state when he created the dark creature, meaning that his weakened powers were going to be surpassed by Obito in any moment).

 

[scorezor]

I am pretty sure that you are halfway wrong.
If Madara "was" tobi.. why didnt he revive himself with Rinne tensei yet ?

really? are you that dumb? HE WAS A SHELL OF HIS FORMER SELF!

and btw dude , i wish you good luck at convincing these ignorant guys lol.

 

[minamoto]

The fact is that Obito BECAME Madara in the past when Madara died, when he became the savior of the world, and the proof relies in the last chapters where Madara stated that Obito WAS Madara.

And the Obito voluntarely said that he was no longer lost, that the current 'he' was the one who wanted to become Hokage, that he is Obito Uchiha, meaning that HE WAS MADARA'S NEWER AVATAR.

Chapter 665 explains this very well.

But also, as Obito "voluntarely" stated that the current he was the one who wanted to become hokage, we also know that he was not being controlled in the past. Why do I know that? Because Obito had these visions while being the Juubi Jinchuuriki, meaning that Madara did not have any kind of control over Obito in that context, and still Obito did never stated that he was being controlled.

I can say that you had the right hunch when telling that Spiral was with Obito at the time of Obito being the masked man, but I can't buy the thing about Obito being controlled by Madara.

Brainwashed is a far more acceptable answer than the farfetched possibility of Madara controlling Obito while being dead (and no, Kuro Zetsu is not an acceptable answer in this case, because Madara was in a very feeble state when he created the dark creature, meaning that his weakened powers were going to be surpassed by Obito in any moment).

on the contrary..Madara told obito "you are not obito , you are me !!!"....that was just a say wich lack evidence...so believe me madara is going to prove it soon to obito why he was indeed madara..or rather why he was obito being controlled by the 2nd madara...obito was psychologically lost with troubles of rememberness and self identity..and Rins -delusions....old madara took advantage of this and sealed his other part witin obito and told obito to pose as madara..so when the 2nd madara possess obito for reall..obito will think he is indeed fooling others when posing as madara..but in truth it was indeed madara speaking through obito...

-listen bro...madara cant tell obito " heyy obito the 2nd me is inisde yyou controlling you"...of course he can't say that becuz the 2nd madara is madara's ultimate secret and trumpcard...that would be stupid from madara...but madara instead was smart and just gave obito some clues...." and you are not obito..YOU ARE ME!!"....madara never say something in mephors...he meant what he said..