[VS] A vs Itachi

Braiyan · May 25, 2014

A dodged Amaterasu already. Therefore Itachi isn't catching him with that jutsu. And if Itachi can't catch A with his fastest jutsu, then he can't catch him with any of his other offensive jutsu. Itachi gets outlasted.

Stxluciferr · May 25, 2014

genii96 said:
true,but he moved faster than sasuke's ms could percieve,also seeing an attack and reacting are two different things,so seeing him attack dosent mean itachi can react to it.
Ay left an afterimage of himself when he moved in v2,doubt itachi is seeing that. Oh and itachi's attacks cant hit him too,so...

I see what your saying, but Itachi's MS is on another level from Sasukes. It allowed him to hang with kcm Naruto who is supposedly faster than Ay. If he can follow Naruto while he is a canically less powerful edo tensei while being controlled by someone else, he should have little trouble moving his head fast enough for Amaterasu to spawn onto to Ay.

Itachi is both faster and has better reactions than Ms Sasuke. Also Ay can't keep V2 speed up. Even if he could avoid Amaterasu in V2 (which he can't) In between the lay over time he has no way to counter Amaterasu, as even Sasukes less effective Ms could keep up with V1

And on top of that though Sasuke could not completely see V2 Ay. Scans prove he could slightly follow him.

sharingansennin · May 25, 2014

leathercandle said:
Itachi wins.

Itachi is very skilled in Genjutsu but its not his only weapon. Susanoo is a problem for Ay as well as Amaterasu, even if Ay is able to cut off the burning body parts, it will restrict his movements even more. Not to mention that Itachi would probably analyze all of Ay's moves by occupying him with clones right off the bat. It was hard enough for all of the current Kage to deal with Madara's Susanoo (not saying Itachi's susanoo is better than Madara's by any means), so it would be extremely difficult for Ay to deal with it alone and with only 1 arm. Theres also the tracking speed of the Sharingan (I'm not sure if Ay out-speeds the tracking or not, but if he doesn't, theres that too.)

I'm not saying Ay is weak in the slightest, I just believe that Itachi is more powerful, especially because Ay is missing an arm.

KCM Naruto & Itachi fought Taijutsu at the same speed so Itachi is about Ay's speed in Taijutsu at least

Katsumi Ren · May 25, 2014

You can't just say that 'well Ay dodged amaterasu once so he'll always dodge it'. There are many ways to force a hit on someone agile or fast.

If Ay ever jumps in the air, whether to dodge an attack or even to chase itachi, he ain't dodging shit let alone amaterasu since he has no leverage and he can't fly.

Dęvîa Puęrî · May 25, 2014

Stxluciferr said:
Since when are five susanoo's moving faster than sight

There were 5 madara's after him to put him in genjutsu..... There for 5 pairs of sight ...... Which is > itachi one pair of sight

Not to mention genni clearly also says restrain him not specfically talking about the genjutsu persay but that Ay is 2 fast to b caught in genjutsu so someone has to restrain him first and then make him look into their eyes ....

Dęvîa Puęrî · May 25, 2014

Katsumi Ren said:
You can't just say that 'well Ay dodged amaterasu once so he'll always dodge it'. There are many ways to force a hit on someone agile or fast.

If Ay ever jumps in the air, whether to dodge an attack or even to chase itachi, he ain't dodging shit let alone amaterasu since he has no leverage and he can't fly.

He can just shushin out of air ...... He kind of did tht with onooki on his back ....

And there's no chasing itachi, itachi will get blitzed not chased he is not minato in terms of speed no chasing needed the only thing tht can protect him from Ay would KILL him from strain and tht being Susanno Ay is perfect counter for itachi

Dęvîa Puęrî · May 25, 2014

Stxluciferr said:
I see what your saying, but Itachi's MS is on another level from Sasukes. It allowed him to hang with kcm Naruto who is supposedly faster than Ay. If he can follow Naruto while he is a canically less powerful edo tensei while being controlled by someone else, he should have little trouble moving his head fast enough for Amaterasu to spawn onto to Ay.

Itachi is both faster and has better reactions than Ms Sasuke. Also Ay can't keep V2 speed up. Even if he could avoid Amaterasu in V2 (which he can't) In between the lay over time he has no way to counter Amaterasu, as even Sasukes less effective Ms could keep up with V1

And on top of that though Sasuke could not completely see V2 Ay. Scans prove he could slightly follow him.

Never was officially stated tht kcm is faster then V2 Ay their around same speed if not Ay being faster due to via shushin that he mixes with his v2

Also not saying itachi is slow but the feat u mention 2 things r wrong with tht
1 naruto didn't want to hurt itachi so wasn't really fighting
2 itachi was edo there for no sickness to hold him back or poor chakra and stamina reserves due to edo having infinite amounts in both categories

Draphsin · May 25, 2014

Braiyan said:
He has canonically dodged Amaterasu before, making it a non-factor in this fight.

I'm sorry but I have to take a moment to point out this awful logic. Just because a character dodged a jutsu in one situation doesn't mean he will be able to dodge in every situation. U_U

Ama is only a non-factor if it's utterly useless against Ay, however that's clearly not the case because even sasuke managed to hit him & he's not immune to it either.

A v i · May 25, 2014

Ay wins this.

Draphsin said:
I'm sorry but I have to take a moment to point out this awful logic. Just because a character dodged a jutsu in one situation doesn't mean he will be able to dodge in every situation. U_U

Ama is only a non-factor if it's utterly useless against Ay, however that's clearly not the case because even sasuke managed to hit him & he's not immune to it either.

Sasuke never managed to hit him with Amaterasu.

LustyLover · May 25, 2014

R o r o n o a Z o r o said:
Ay wins this.

Sasuke never managed to hit him with Amaterasu.

Yes he did actually.

Itachi wins.

Stxluciferr · May 25, 2014

Dęvîa Puęrî said:
Never was officially stated tht kcm is faster then V2 Ay their around same speed if not Ay being faster due to via shushin that he mixes with his v2

Also not saying itachi is slow but the feat u mention 2 things r wrong with tht
1 naruto didn't want to hurt itachi so wasn't really fighting
2 itachi was edo there for no sickness to hold him back or poor chakra and stamina reserves due to edo having infinite amounts in both categories

Even if we put kcm Naruto and Ay in the same ballpark or the same area it doesn't change that Ay isn't moving faster than itachi can see.

And with Naruto not doing his best. It can also be said that itachi wasn't at his best do to being contoled by someone else

Your right about the reserves

Polarbearfrost · May 25, 2014

Itachi wins susanoo for the win A only has 1 arm so that kind of seals his death
Itachi mid dif

A v i · May 25, 2014

HolyEyes said:
Yes he did actually.

Itachi wins.

I would like you to show me the scan where Sasuke managed to hit him.

Braiyan · May 25, 2014

Draphsin said:
I'm sorry but I have to take a moment to point out this awful logic. Just because a character dodged a jutsu in one situation doesn't mean he will be able to dodge in every situation. U_U

Ama is only a non-factor if it's utterly useless against Ay, however that's clearly not the case because even sasuke managed to hit him & he's not immune to it either.

Sasuke did not hit A with Amaterasu. A himself made the conscious decision to come into contact with Amaterasu, something he has no need to do here. And there's literally nothing stopping A from replicating the situation in which he dodged Amaterasu, as it was a result of his own abilities.

Stxluciferr · May 25, 2014

Braiyan said:
Sasuke did not hit A with Amaterasu. A himself made the conscious decision to come into contact with Amaterasu, something he has no need to do here. And there's literally nothing stopping A from replicating the situation in which he dodged Amaterasu, as it was a result of his own abilities.

Sasuke's eyes and speed and reactions are not as fast or as good as Itachi's. Saying Ay dodged Sasukes Amaterasu has no weight.

Stxluciferr · May 25, 2014

Braiyan said:
Sasuke did not hit A with Amaterasu. A himself made the conscious decision to come into contact with Amaterasu, something he has no need to do here. And there's literally nothing stopping A from replicating the situation in which he dodged Amaterasu, as it was a result of his own abilities.

Sasuke's eyes and speed and reactions are not as fast or as good as Itachi's. Saying Ay dodged Sasukes Amaterasu has no weight.

Braiyan · May 25, 2014

Stxluciferr said:
Sasuke's eyes and speed and reactions are not as fast or as good as Itachi's. Saying Ay dodged Sasukes Amaterasu has no weight.

>Implying that Itachi can track V2 A with his eyes.

Stxluciferr · May 25, 2014

Braiyan said:
>Implying that Itachi can track V2 A with his eyes.

He tracked kcm naruto

And sasuke was able to slightly follow v2

Inert Brian · May 25, 2014

Stxluciferr said:
He tracked kcm naruto

And sasuke was able to slightly follow v2

OMFG SOMEONE THAT UNDERSTANDS HOW GOOD ITACHI IS AT TAIJUTSU!!!

Rep. Itachi was able to fight on par with KCM Naruto who was slightly above Ay.

Braiyan · May 25, 2014

Stxluciferr said:
He tracked kcm naruto

And sasuke was able to slightly follow v2

Lol. What makes you believe Naruto was using any of the speed there that he used against A? Especially when he had his chakra divided by 12 clones?

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