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The hypothetical situation is if Madara and Hashirama were not actually Edo's, but had all the same techniques the currently possess. So basically:
I honestly think Hashirama will win. Most of the Madara wankers(Madara Rules), will say no that's not the case, when logically it really is. Aspects we have to look at on Hashirama's side that makes him more likely to win:
1. Hashirama's chakra dwarfs Madara's.
2. Hashirama has more skill with mokuton than Madara(Proven as Madara is at a stalemate with Hashirama while using mokuton and the rinnegan).
3. Hashirama's instant healing.
These are most of the things Hashirama had over Madara since VOTE though right? Think about it this way. Hashirama was only pushed to his limits at VOTE because when he got serious(after defeating Kurama), Madara still basically was full on chakra. Hashirama had already used multiple techniques, then went sage mode and used shinsuusenju which probably took a massive chunk of chakra from him. All Madara had been doing up until this point was activate his susanoo...
Hashirama's chakra levels will be a massive advantage for him in this fight because:
1. Madara wouldn't use a meteor as that would probably wipe him clean of chakra(Plus Hashirama has a counter to it
).
2. While Madara can use Hashi's techniques, the same amount of chakra will be taken. If Madara is using the same techniques as Hashirama, Madara will obviously be drained of chakra much faster than Hashirama will.
A common argument from Madara fans is that he will have preta path so Hashirama's mokuton is useless. Not entirely. While I agree it would suck the chakra from the mokuton, it just wouldn't stop the momentum of it. Also, the entirety of the tree won't be sucked up, merely the chakra. The wood would still be there.
The things Madara has to overcome far exceeds the new feats he now has, to defeat Hashirama. Hashirama still has a counter to all of the techniques Madara has shown, even with him having Hashirama's powers and the rinnegan. Madara still doesn't have a counter to Shinsuusenju.
Before this is considered a wank, I do agree Edo Madara > Edo Hashirama. The thing that changes with them being alive is that they now have chakra levels, which Hashirama has been shown to have much, much more than Madara. Hopefully people agree and understand what I'm trying to say, I know it's a little much to understand for some of you.
- EMS Madara + Rinnega(Preta Path) + Mokuton
- Hashirama + Sage mode
I honestly think Hashirama will win. Most of the Madara wankers(Madara Rules), will say no that's not the case, when logically it really is. Aspects we have to look at on Hashirama's side that makes him more likely to win:
1. Hashirama's chakra dwarfs Madara's.
2. Hashirama has more skill with mokuton than Madara(Proven as Madara is at a stalemate with Hashirama while using mokuton and the rinnegan).
3. Hashirama's instant healing.
These are most of the things Hashirama had over Madara since VOTE though right? Think about it this way. Hashirama was only pushed to his limits at VOTE because when he got serious(after defeating Kurama), Madara still basically was full on chakra. Hashirama had already used multiple techniques, then went sage mode and used shinsuusenju which probably took a massive chunk of chakra from him. All Madara had been doing up until this point was activate his susanoo...
Hashirama's chakra levels will be a massive advantage for him in this fight because:
1. Madara wouldn't use a meteor as that would probably wipe him clean of chakra(Plus Hashirama has a counter to it
2. While Madara can use Hashi's techniques, the same amount of chakra will be taken. If Madara is using the same techniques as Hashirama, Madara will obviously be drained of chakra much faster than Hashirama will.
A common argument from Madara fans is that he will have preta path so Hashirama's mokuton is useless. Not entirely. While I agree it would suck the chakra from the mokuton, it just wouldn't stop the momentum of it. Also, the entirety of the tree won't be sucked up, merely the chakra. The wood would still be there.
The things Madara has to overcome far exceeds the new feats he now has, to defeat Hashirama. Hashirama still has a counter to all of the techniques Madara has shown, even with him having Hashirama's powers and the rinnegan. Madara still doesn't have a counter to Shinsuusenju.
Before this is considered a wank, I do agree Edo Madara > Edo Hashirama. The thing that changes with them being alive is that they now have chakra levels, which Hashirama has been shown to have much, much more than Madara. Hopefully people agree and understand what I'm trying to say, I know it's a little much to understand for some of you.