Piratefish
Jōnin Strategist 🧠
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So I hope everyone has read 646, if not, do so immediately. More backstory is contained in that thing than I ever though Kishi would willingly give us at one time.
At first, I was wondering if the idea was nabbed from One-Piece: The whole Naruto plot was ALSO kickstarted by a FRUIT?!? What the hell?
But honestly, it's more like the Biblical story of the Garden of Eden, with some little differences.
First, mankind is not "innocent" at the time of the stealing of the fruit.
Second, the result of the theft is not knowledge, but POWER.
Third, "GOD" LOSES the ensuing confrontation, BADLY.
Fourth, taking the fruit doesn't exactly bring happiness. To anyone.
That in itself is a deconstruction of Shonen Manga in itself: "Power is NOT worthwhile", or rather, "Power corrupts" isn't exactly a typical philosophy in the genre. Which I find interesting, as the series is coming to an end: What'll go down? ANYTHING can happen. Oh, I mean the good guys'll win, but how? BEATING GOD IN A FIGHT, though admittedly awesome, did NOT work out too well the first time around.
Something like an alliance between God and Mankind, however. That'll work out.
If you can befriend Neji, GAARA, PEIN and KURAMA through battle, who is to say GOD ITSELF is out of your reach?
But this foe is entirely different than anything our hero has ever faced: He might not live through it this time. But his will WILL live on. A bitter ending, a happy ending, better than an unequivocally happy one or an unequivocally sad one. At least in my view.
So, Naruto will end with the ULTIMATE Talk-no-Jutsu/Heroic Sacrifice. You heard it here first.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Literally just now found out the meaning of the Sage's name: Hagoromo, or Bagoromo, is among the most popular of the Noh plays. Here is the plot:
"A fisherman is walking with his companions at night when he finds the Hagoromo, the magical feather-mantle of a tennin (an aerial spirit or celestial dancer) hanging on a bough. The tennin sees him taking it and demands its return—she cannot return to Heaven without it. The fisherman argues with her, and finally promises to return it, if she will show him her dance or part of it. She accepts his offer. The Chorus explains the dance as symbolic of the daily changes of the moon. The words about "three, five, and fifteen" refer to the number of nights in the moon's changes. In the finale, the tennin disappears like a mountain slowly hidden in mist."
That right there isn't TOO dissimilar from the Sage's story: "She" was a tree not an air-spirit, "it" was a fruit not a feather, and Bagoromo himself says "NO" instead of "YES".
Also the moon is intimately connected with the story.
Perhaps Naruto WILL return the power after all?
At first, I was wondering if the idea was nabbed from One-Piece: The whole Naruto plot was ALSO kickstarted by a FRUIT?!? What the hell?
But honestly, it's more like the Biblical story of the Garden of Eden, with some little differences.
First, mankind is not "innocent" at the time of the stealing of the fruit.
Second, the result of the theft is not knowledge, but POWER.
Third, "GOD" LOSES the ensuing confrontation, BADLY.
Fourth, taking the fruit doesn't exactly bring happiness. To anyone.
That in itself is a deconstruction of Shonen Manga in itself: "Power is NOT worthwhile", or rather, "Power corrupts" isn't exactly a typical philosophy in the genre. Which I find interesting, as the series is coming to an end: What'll go down? ANYTHING can happen. Oh, I mean the good guys'll win, but how? BEATING GOD IN A FIGHT, though admittedly awesome, did NOT work out too well the first time around.
Something like an alliance between God and Mankind, however. That'll work out.
If you can befriend Neji, GAARA, PEIN and KURAMA through battle, who is to say GOD ITSELF is out of your reach?
But this foe is entirely different than anything our hero has ever faced: He might not live through it this time. But his will WILL live on. A bitter ending, a happy ending, better than an unequivocally happy one or an unequivocally sad one. At least in my view.
So, Naruto will end with the ULTIMATE Talk-no-Jutsu/Heroic Sacrifice. You heard it here first.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Literally just now found out the meaning of the Sage's name: Hagoromo, or Bagoromo, is among the most popular of the Noh plays. Here is the plot:
"A fisherman is walking with his companions at night when he finds the Hagoromo, the magical feather-mantle of a tennin (an aerial spirit or celestial dancer) hanging on a bough. The tennin sees him taking it and demands its return—she cannot return to Heaven without it. The fisherman argues with her, and finally promises to return it, if she will show him her dance or part of it. She accepts his offer. The Chorus explains the dance as symbolic of the daily changes of the moon. The words about "three, five, and fifteen" refer to the number of nights in the moon's changes. In the finale, the tennin disappears like a mountain slowly hidden in mist."
That right there isn't TOO dissimilar from the Sage's story: "She" was a tree not an air-spirit, "it" was a fruit not a feather, and Bagoromo himself says "NO" instead of "YES".
Also the moon is intimately connected with the story.
Perhaps Naruto WILL return the power after all?
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