A theory on the diffrence on Kakashi's and Tobi's Kamui

[madali]

Okay is it just me or does anyone else notice the diffrence on Kakashi's and tobi Kamui techs. As we have seen kakashi progress using his MS we have seen his speed and profincency increase greatly. To the point he is faster with it than tobi. But i think there are fundamental differences bewteen obito two eyes and i will try to explain them.

Kakashi's MS

1. Speed is greater
2. Can send items to the other dimension but as far as we know can't bring them back.
3. Can send parts of items to the other dimension
4. Send items that are a distance away
5. Sends items that are moving
6. There is no escape from Kakashi's Kamui (unless you have a Kamui too)

Tobi's MS

1. Can send items back a forth to the other dimension
2. Can send himself to other dimension
3. Move himself great distances
4. ability to move his own body parts to the other dimension
5. can move his whole body into the other dimension in a 5 min time limit.
6. Is slower than kakashi's Kamui tech (allows for escape ex: Minato)


Even Minato said that Tobi S/T tech are better than his. This leads me to Believe that Kakashis is better than Minato's too. If Obitio was still alive he would the most overpowered Sharingan user.

Don't flame i would like to known the base's thoughts on it.:noc:

 

[spokentruth]

Minato can get out of kakashi kamui aswell

 

[TheAwesomeOne]

I wonder if Kakashi looked in a mirror and used Kamui, Would it send himself?

 

[madali]

I wonder if Kakashi looked in a mirror and used Kamui, Would it send himself?

he would send the mirror i think

 

[XxOUTZxX]

you should correct kakashi's kamui #2...he can bring them back from the other dimension

 

[Lt Fresh]

For some reason I think Tobi's and Kakashi's Kamui are the same. Tobi just had more time using it and mastering it. Kakashi still has more to learn.

 

[madali]

Minato can get out of kakashi kamui aswell

I don't think so. By the way he transported naruto in this recent chapter i don't think minato could escape. you see how tobi MS is slow to suck you in. while kakashi's is fast. Tobi's isn't slow per say its just not as fast as kakashis

 

[Punk Hazard]

I agree with everything but two parts.

1. Kakashi being better than Minato in Space-Time just because he a higher level jutsu. This isn't true. It's not the tool, it's how you use it and your skill with it. It's like Orochimaru said, "A baws with a rock can pwn a noob with a kunai."

2. That last statement. If Obito was still alive, he might have stayed a weakling who might have never got MS. The correct thing to say is " He had the potential to be the most OP Uchiha alive."

 

[madali]

you should correct kakashi's kamui #2...he can bring them back from the other dimension

really when did he bring something back. I think its possible i just dont remember him doing it.

 

[spokentruth]

I don't think so. By the way he transported naruto in this recent chapter i don't think minato could escape. you see how tobi MS is slow to suck you in. while kakashi's is fast. Tobi's isn't slow per say its just not as fast as kakashis

Tobi can up the speed on it he got sasuke out of Jinton in a flash and you cant say he went ghost mode because he cant turn other into ghost mode tobi warping is faster than you think to get in and out of jinton whithin the flicker of light the incennerate you

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Okay is it just me or does anyone else notice the diffrence on Kakashi's and tobi Kamui techs. As we have seen kakashi progress using his MS we have seen his speed and profincency increase greatly. To the point he is faster with it than tobi. But i think there are fundamental differences bewteen obito two eyes and i will try to explain them.

Kakashi's MS

1. Speed is greater
2. Can send items to the other dimension but as far as we know can't bring them back.
3. Can send parts of items to the other dimension
4. Send items that are a distance away
5. Sends items that are moving
6. There is no escape from Kakashi's Kamui (unless you have a Kamui too)

Tobi's MS

1. Can send items back a forth to the other dimension
2. Can send himself to other dimension
3. Move himself great distances
4. ability to move his own body parts to the other dimension
5. can move his whole body into the other dimension in a 5 min time limit.
6. Is slower than kakashi's Kamui tech (allows for escape ex: Minato)


Even Minato said that Tobi S/T tech are better than his. This leads me to Believe that Kakashis is better than Minato's too. If Obitio was still alive he would the most overpowered Sharingan user.

Don't flame i would like to known the base's thoughts on it.:noc:

One is for offense and the other is for defense it has been stated
in the manga already

 

[madali]

I agree with everything but two parts.

1. Kakashi being better than Minato in Space-Time just because he a higher level jutsu. This isn't true. It's not the tool, it's how you use it and your skill with it. It's like Orochimaru said, "A baws with a rock can pwn a noob with a kunai."

2. That last statement. If Obito was still alive, he might have stayed a weakling who might have never got MS. The correct thing to say is " He had the potential to be the most OP Uchiha alive."

i agree with your number two. He didn't have much talent but we don't know how much he could have progressed after achieveing the sharingan. If kakashi was an uchiha and he had obitos eyes he would be in the top 5 easy.

Your analogy about the rock is inaccurate. Kakashi is no noob. as you know and he knows Minato s/t techs. I think kakashis is more advanced. I am not saying kakashi would beat minato but he would give the 4th a rough time

 

[XxOUTZxX]

really when did he bring something back. I think its possible i just dont remember him doing it.

I don't think so. By the way he transported naruto in this recent chapter i don't think minato could escape. you see how tobi MS is slow to suck you in. while kakashi's is fast. Tobi's isn't slow per say its just not as fast as kakashis

he brought the clone back...the stake back...resagan....you said it yourself in that post lolz

 

[-Carnage-]

kakashis kamui is more of an offensive tech
while tobis kamui is more of a deffensive tech

 

[xMutation]

Okay is it just me or does anyone else notice the diffrence on Kakashi's and tobi Kamui techs. As we have seen kakashi progress using his MS we have seen his speed and profincency increase greatly. To the point he is faster with it than tobi. But i think there are fundamental differences bewteen obito two eyes and i will try to explain them.

Kakashi's MS

1. Speed is greater
2. Can send items to the other dimension but as far as we know can't bring them back.
3. Can send parts of items to the other dimension
4. Send items that are a distance away
5. Sends items that are moving
6. There is no escape from Kakashi's Kamui (unless you have a Kamui too)

Tobi's MS

1. Can send items back a forth to the other dimension
2. Can send himself to other dimension
3. Move himself great distances
4. ability to move his own body parts to the other dimension
5. can move his whole body into the other dimension in a 5 min time limit.
6. Is slower than kakashi's Kamui tech (allows for escape ex: Minato)


Even Minato said that Tobi S/T tech are better than his. This leads me to Believe that Kakashis is better than Minato's too. If Obitio was still alive he would the most overpowered Sharingan user.

Don't flame i would like to known the base's thoughts on it.:noc:

I definitely understand where your coming from and it's common for them to have different techniques even if they have the same eye. It really depends on how the user developes there MS. Kakashi never really tried to warp himself with MS unlike Tobi who been practicing to warp himself and his body parts. Same goes for Tobi, he's probably never practiced warp objects at great speed from a distance. That's exactly what Kakashi trained his MS to preform. As for Obito it would really depend on what he trains his MS to do and preform really. This is just what I would assume. Hope it helps

 

[madali]

I definitely understand where your coming from and it's common for them to have different techniques even if they have the same eye. It really depends on how the user developes there MS. Kakashi never really tried to warp himself with MS unlike Tobi who been practicing to warp himself and his body parts. Same goes for Tobi, he's probably never practiced warp objects at great speed from a distance. That's exactly what Kakashi trained his MS to preform. As for Obito it would really depend on what he trains his MS to do and preform really. This is just what I would assume. Hope it helps

thats a good idea i didnt think about it like that. I thought that the MS might have to diffrent techs like sasuke's and itachi's.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Tobi can up the speed on it he got sasuke out of Jinton in a flash and you cant say he went ghost mode because he cant turn other into ghost mode tobi warping is faster than you think to get in and out of jinton whithin the flicker of light the incennerate you

Tobi can turn others Ghost Mode.

i agree with your number two. He didn't have much talent but we don't know how much he could have progressed after achieveing the sharingan. If kakashi was an uchiha and he had obitos eyes he would be in the top 5 easy.

Your analogy about the rock is inaccurate. Kakashi is no noob. as you know and he knows Minato s/t techs. I think kakashis is more advanced. I am not saying kakashi would beat minato but he would give the 4th a rough time

That wasn't the point of the analogy.