A Theory, and Observation, and a Question

[Lightbringer]

Theory

Spiral Zetsu will face Obito and retrieve the rinnegan for Madara. It would make sense since we don't know the full back-story of Spiral Zetsu, but we know he had a major role to play with Obito and Akatsuki since Tobi is virtually Spiral Zetsu.

Also it would be a way for Madara to regain his eye and access his full power, leading to the final battle and Obito's unfortunate departure after his redemption.






Observation

One thing I noticed about the Sun and Moon on Naruto and Sasuke's hands is that they have it on opposite hands, so whey combined it will form into something greater than both.


The concept of two opposing forces cooperating will achieve real happiness is the symbolism here. But the thing I noticed is that the previous Shukaku Jinchuriki had something similar on both hands.


On each hand was a different kanji that when combined formed Gaara's tattoo that says "love". I wonder if there's any significance between the two.

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Question


Ashura is the ancestor of the Senju

Uzumaki represent the sun



Indra is the ancestor of the Uchiha

Uchiha represent the moon.




So what do the Senju represent? Why aren't they the sun instead of the Uzumaki. How do you think the Uzumaki relates to Ashura?

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[TheTailedSage]

Uzumaki are cousins of Senju and your forgetting Hashirama was the previous Gen ashura

 

[Lightbringer]

Uzumaki are cousins of Senju and your forgetting Hashirama was the previous Gen ashura

I know they are their cousins. But that could mean that they came from the Sage's brother.


The Senju symbol looks nothing like the sun and it was clear that the Uzumaki symbol was supposed to represent it while the Uchiha represent the Moon.


So what's the dichotomy between the Senju and Uchiha if Uchiha equal the moon?

 

[Uchiha Sutona]

Well first, Id like to say, it doesn't really matter if the Uchiha represents the moon and the Uzumaki represents the sun. If that did matter, then Naruto could never of been the next reincarnation. I think the reincarnation doesn't run within the bloodline.. only the characteristics, such as Indra=Ocular just as Ashura=Physical

Because Naruto is not a Senju, that means that Indra could reincarnate into, and do I dare say, a hyuga. Its very possible.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Good observation. I think the uzumaki are the offshot of the sages bro, hyuga might be as well.

 

[Eclipsingon]

i would say they are the re-carnation were sasuke and naruto but madara and the first hokage were not and that a new sage will be born to create peace for a while maybe forever hint hint who will make the change that will stop this immortal energy that re-incarnates itself for war

 

[LeSauce]

The Uchiha's symbol doesn't really look like a cresent moon all that much.

I thonk it's more based on ideals or something.

 

[LeSauce]

The Uchiha's symbol doesn't really look like a cresent moon all that much.

I thonk it's more based on ideals or something.

 

[the last uchiha]

the senju and possibly the hyuuga represent the earth

 

[Prime Rib]

Guys the uzumaki clan arent the senju clan "cousins" they are just distantley related.

 

[Ultimateone]

when i saw that i kinda thought the same thing. madara only mentioned the senju as the descendants of ashura, but we at least know that they are related in some way to the uzumaki. why is it that the uzumaki symbol resembles the sun more so than the senju does? my guess what that the senju broke off from the uzumaki and not the other way around like most previously thought. there's also the possibility they came from the sages brother, but we are gonna leave him out cuz the sage told us nothing about him. just feel like the senju's crest should represent the sun in some way as the uchiha clearly have a moon on their fan.

 

[Lightbringer]

when i saw that i kinda thought the same thing. madara only mentioned the senju as the descendants of ashura, but we at least know that they are related in some way to the uzumaki. why is it that the uzumaki symbol resembles the sun more so than the senju does? my guess what that the senju broke off from the uzumaki and not the other way around like most previously thought. there's also the possibility they came from the sages brother, but we are gonna leave him out cuz the sage told us nothing about him. just feel like the senju's crest should represent the sun in some way as the uchiha clearly have a moon on their fan.

I agree, and the Senju breaking off from the Uzumaki could be a possibility with the Uzumaki being the original clan.