A summoning or reverse summoning can't save the user from kamui

[TheWillofFire]

Minato's case is different, since he can't throw a Kunai from the Kamui dimension.

Still he can be summoned by the frogs and be reversed summoned, thus being same thing of not being worried if caught in kamui

 

[Wik]

Ok most people realise that summoning is in fact space/time jutsu, but just in case. If it were not, a summoned object from a closed area would either break a hole in the wall or it would not come.

I'd also say that whoever thinks so would need to prove that summoning jutsu/reversed summoning jutsu works as a counter to kamui, not the other way around. If nothing is mentioned of it in anything canon or there are no logical implications you'd have to assume it does not work when discussing a theoretical battle.

 

[Bogard]

Minato's case is different, since he can't throw a Kunai from the Kamui dimension.

He has markings almost everywhere in konoha. Why throwing a kunai?

 

[Chatte]

He has markings almost everywhere in konoha. Why throwing a kunai?

If prepared.

 

[Bogard]

If prepared.

What does the preparation have to do with this? At the moment Obito wanted to warp him, he already had plenty of markings in konoha, but still feared to be warped. Dimension are not related. It's as simple as that

 

[Chatte]

What does the preparation have to do with this? At the moment Obito wanted to warp him, he already had plenty of markings in konoha, but still feared to be warped. Dimension are not related. It's as simple as that

I wasn't talking about the warping here. I was talking about the fact that Minato has the markings everywhere if he has time before to prepare them, like in Kushina's birth case.
I am still checking the whole dimension thing.

 

[Bogard]

I wasn't talking about the warping here. I was talking about the fact that Minato has the markings everywhere if he has time before to prepare them, like in Kushina's birth case.
I am still checking the whole dimension thing.

But the fact remain that he does have markings almost everywhere in konoha and even outside konoha as we have seen during the kyubi attack. Being trapped in kamui dimension is like being trapped by Jiraya's

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but worse. This is also a dimensional technique where the enemy is traped with no way to escape. It's in this technique that Jiraya traped Animal Path, and Nagato wasn't able to take him out of it no matter what he did

 

[Chatte]

But the fact remain that he does have markings almost everywhere in konoha and even outside konoha as we have seen during the kyubi attack. Being trapped in kamui dimension is like being trapped by Jiraya's

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but worse. This is also a dimensional technique where the enemy is traped with no way to escape. It's in this technique that Jiraya traped Animal Path, and Nagato wasn't able to take him out of it no matter what he did

Gaaah, don't you get it I was only speaking about the markings? He had on Kushina's area, their house, hokage monument.
The one with transferring the bomb was other sealing jutsu type of thing.
He has to have things marked before. If he isn't prepared, he can't travel. That was my point.
If he has no time to put a marking, say as in, Konoha hokage monument and his house, he won't be able to travel because there's no marking. Get my point?
I wasn't talking anything about Obito's jutsu here. Only Minato.

 

[Bogard]

Gaaah, don't you get it I was only speaking about the markings? He had on Kushina's area, their house, hokage monument.
The one with transferring the bomb was other sealing jutsu type of thing.
He has to have things marked before. If he isn't prepared, he can't travel. That was my point.
If he has no time to put a marking, say as in, Konoha hokage monument and his house, he won't be able to travel because there's no marking. Get my point?
I wasn't talking anything about Obito's jutsu here. Only Minato.

I get your point, but what i'm saying is that there is no point talking about it since in the case i was talking about, he does have markings. So why talking about it?

 

[Chatte]

I get your point, but what i'm saying is that there is no point talking about it since in the case i was talking about, he does have markings. So why talking about it?

I was just saying about and what if situations and not all of them are like that one.
Anyway, I guess we should end it here.

 

[Gaara]

Disagree

 

[LegendaryAce]

Okay, i've read a lot of threads about kakashi vs... and some of you keep as an argument that if somebody gets warped to the kamui's dimension, he can be saved making a reverse summoning or watever.

A summoning is traveling at the speed of lifght, no more than that, so if Deva Pain (for example) gets warped in the kamui's dimension, and the animal path wants to summon him back, he can't, because that's a travel at the speed of light, it can't make a dimensional barrier, si if you get trapped with kamui, the only way out is KAMUI.

Get that sulg princess tsunade?

If kakashi warps tsunade, she can't go back with a reverse summon, because she needs a black hole to go out that dimension,and the speed of light is no black hole.

So minato cant FTG out of the kamui dimension?

 

[Tazzilla88]

Of course it can't. It's already implied more than one time in this manga. If it was really true, then someone like Minato would not have to worry of being warped since with his Hiraishin, he could have easily went out of it. Like lol99 proved, dimensions are not related

Minato would still have to be worried about being teleported as 1. he didn't know what the other dimension was like and he would have been dependent on the toads which were not present to reverse summon him.
I would argue that it shouldn't matter which dimension you are in to get to the dimension you want to enter.

 

[Horus]

No proof, so Disregarded

 

[KidGamer65]

I agree, the sole argument people have for Reverse Summoning and FTG being able to let you escape from the Kamui dimension is because they are all S/T Jutsu, but as a post above me shows, there is a scan that says all S/T Jutsu are not connected, so one S/T Jutsu can't access the dimension of another S/T Jutsu.

Also why would Obito even bother to try to warp Minato if FTG can escape the Kamui dimension? Obito knows about FTG and how it works..

 

[Wik]

No proof, so Disregarded

Why would he have to prove anything? If no one can prove that you can't escape with summoning jutsus then the statement that you can should be disregarded, not the other way around.

I state that you can escape kamui dimension by a simple game of peekaboo. Prove me wrong.

 

[Stark]

I have no opinion on this but where is your proof? Your word does't matter lol..

 

[Horus]

Why would he have to prove anything? If no one can prove that you can't escape with summoning jutsus then the statement that you can should be disregarded, not the other way around.

I state that you can escape kamui dimension by a simple game of peekaboo. Prove me wrong.

Now you are just being an Idiot, I Only said that Because there is No proof on what he is saying, so i will stick to my opinion, and No one's word counts in this unless Confirmed BY THE MANGA AND THE CREATOR OF THE MANGA

 

[Fair Warning]

Minato could teleport out of Kamui dimension, IF he was caught. He was already shown to be fast enough to teleport out of it with going in.

 

[New knight48]

I was just saying about and what if situations and not all of them are like that one.
Anyway, I guess we should end it here.

holy shit ur retarded... he is saying that minato has seals all over the leaf villiage there is no what if he didnt have time to prepare they were already there. You are trying to prove a point to him when your the one who is misinterpreting or simply just acting unintelligent...