A summoning or reverse summoning can't save the user from kamui

[EZQ]

Okay, i've read a lot of threads about kakashi vs... and some of you keep as an argument that if somebody gets warped to the kamui's dimension, he can be saved making a reverse summoning or watever.

A summoning is traveling at the speed of lifght, no more than that, so if Deva Pain (for example) gets warped in the kamui's dimension, and the animal path wants to summon him back, he can't, because that's a travel at the speed of light, it can't make a dimensional barrier, si if you get trapped with kamui, the only way out is KAMUI.

Get that sulg princess tsunade?

If kakashi warps tsunade, she can't go back with a reverse summon, because she needs a black hole to go out that dimension,and the speed of light is no black hole.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Okay, i've read a lot of threads about kakashi vs... and some of you keep as an argument that if somebody gets warped to the kamui's dimension, he can be saved making a reverse summoning or watever.

A summoning is traveling at the speed of lifght, no more than that, so if Deva Pain (for example) gets warped in the kamui's dimension, and the animal path wants to summon him back, he can't, because that's a travel at the speed of light, it can't make a dimensional barrier, si if you get trapped with kamui, the only way out is KAMUI.

Get that sulg princess tsunade?

If kakashi warps tsunade, she can't go back with a reverse summon, because she needs a black hole to go out that dimension,and the speed of light is no black hole.

1. Why do you mention my name?
2. Assumptions, without proofs.

 

[Merita]

Summoning is a Space-Time technique, like Kamui, it's not ''the speed of light''

 

[EZQ]

Summoning is a Space-Time technique, like Kamui, it's not ''the speed of light''

Yes it is, jiraiya said it to naruto

 

[EZQ]

1. Why do you mention my name?
2. Assumptions, without proofs.

Because you always use that argument in ksksdhi vs tsunade threads, because you don't want to admit kakashi >>>> tsunade

 

[Lentz]

I just wonder where do you people get all those wild "facts" about random shit, including summoning being speed of light.

 

[Blaze Release]

I agree.
Out of the weaknesses of kamui that the manga has revealed and there are a minimum of 5 stated in the manga, the manga has never stated anything about getting out of the dimension either with kuchiyose or reverse kuchiyose. Something that if it was a weakness it will reveal and if anything the manga backs the opposite due to what tobi said agains't minato. Also note that hirashin's is based on the reverse kuchiyose technique

 

[Chatte]

They're both related to space-time ninjutsu...

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Yes it is, jiraiya said it to naruto

Where?

And even if he said this, this doesn't prove your theory is true.

 

[EZQ]

Summoning doesn't involve a change of dimension, so it can't save the user from kamui dimension.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Because you always use that argument in ksksdhi vs tsunade threads, because you don't want to admit kakashi >>>> tsunade

Where I used this? xd

As I remember I was the one who argued with Slug Sage Tsunade. I said Kakashi > Tsunade, she/ he was the one who said Tsunade > kakashi.

 

[lol99]

They're both related to space-time ninjutsu...

all space-time ninjutsus aren't connected, not everyone can access kamui dimension

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[Pragmatic]

Yes it is, jiraiya said it to naruto

Jiraiya only said it like that to him so he would understand because we all know Naruto was kinda slow...

 

[Chatte]

all space-time ninjutsus aren't connected, not anyone can access kamui dimension

True, but the basics aren't kinda the same? Dunno, I am not trying to argue with anything here, just getting to know both better.
Mechanisms and everything, in order to come with an accurate opinion.

 

[Thundergod123]

The only person who can really reverse Kamui is Minato's FTG............... why, cuz Minato can't be absorbed cause of his speed and S/T.

But if Minato gets trapped by Kakashi or Obito into a dimension, then Minato can use a s/t tech to escape that place ( maybe ).

 

[Aertes]

Reverse summoning is a time-space technique like kamui.Although kamui teleports things in another dimension that hasn't been mentioned before.Maybe it's not impossible to break free from kamui's dimension with reverse kuchiyose but my guess is that since kamui is a powerful dojutsu technique a reverse summoning won't work,like most of the mangekyo sharingan techniques that can't be broken or overcome by simple ninjutsu.But that's just speculations.

 

[Meowazziel]

Summoning no jutsu is speed of light?
That is a load of bullcrap and not written anywhere.

Mabui her jutsu is using speed(transport jutsu) and that is why it is used for tools and not people, cause almost anybody get severely damaged when that jutsu of her, is used on them.

Summoning no jutsu is a spacetime jutsu (this is a fact).
It is in databooks, wiki and the manga/anime.

If it can get you out of Kamui is another question.

You probably cant get out of Kamui with FTG.

If you can, than Obito wouldnt have tryed to get Minato inside Kamui, unless he knew almost nothing about the jutsu.

So reverse summoning out of Kamui probably doesnt work either.

 

[TheWillofFire]

I agree that once in kamui dimension you can no longer be saved

But while being kamuid can be saved from a summon, like Minato saved himself before he was warped

If minato could escape kamui, then obitos kamui is pointless

 

[Bogard]

Of course it can't. It's already implied more than one time in this manga. If it was really true, then someone like Minato would not have to worry of being warped since with his Hiraishin, he could have easily went out of it. Like lol99 proved, dimensions are not related

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Of course it can't. It's already implied more than one time in this manga. If it was really true, then someone like Minato would not have to worry of being warped since with his Hiraishin, he could have easily went out of it. Like lol99 proved, dimensions are not related

Minato's case is different, since he can't throw a Kunai from the Kamui dimension.