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This is what brings us together because I understand your pain, your story is like a memory of mine but you have not truly experienced the amount of pain I have lived through

So what have you been through. Id love to hear.
 

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Yeah, you are definately pein. We might as well be the akatsuki... :O we could use that name. Oh, and the alchemist is on board with the group, and I am willing to bet that you are

Sure why not
 

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The sad part about it is that people think guns and knives solve all their problems. But in reality, it just makes matters worse.
 

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kinda. lived for the most part an alienated life even in my family. It was just me and my mom. At first i was very sheltered throughout elementary not being exposed to the realities of life. Then when i was forced to go daycare things started tumbling. It wasn't that bad but my mom stopped standing up for herself and i followed suit. We eventually moved in with the daycare lady (she did most of the convincing) My mom got very sick and passed in and out of consciousness on a daily basis. The day care lady became my mom and she was evil. Beat me till i bled and left me outside to get eaten alive by mosquitoes as i cared to her garden. Mom no longer cared. In middle school i was picked on and beat up daily. I'd be happy if home life was better but at that age without a happy place to go to you lose the will to live. I want to say high shool was better but my friends were *******s. Convinced me to smoke hybrid weed on my first go and when i spazed the fuk out they act like its my fault i ruined their high. atleast we moved out. but my new neighborhood isn't any better. now in college things are lookin up.

I may not have lived in your shoes, but I understand your pain. I know you might feel like no one understands me because they aren't me, trust me, I feel the same. I spent the first nineteen years of my life inn fear of my other self taking control. I was born with schizophrenia. My "alternate" used to be in control most of the time, and the friends that I supposedly made aren't people I know. I don't even know their names, he'll, I barely knew mine. I lived in the background of my own mind, a prisoner to the very body I was born with. I made up my own name, because I can't call my birth name my own. Your pain is very physical, where mine is more mental.
 

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So what have you been through. Id love to hear.

My birth was an accident. I was born into extreme poverty, when I was just a baby my family tried to kill because of my skin colour as i did not 'fit in' as I grew older about to the age of 5 I was not fed, I was not allowed to talk, leave my room or even look out the window, my only friends were books my only way to know about outside my room was through books, by the age of 6 I was already smarter than the average 11 year old, but that day my family decided that I had plagues their household long enough and as my mother was not allowed to see me or my sister, they took me far into the forest and left me there to die, for 3 days I cried to myself everyday and every step of the way I was aware that if I didn't get home soon that I would die, on the third day I was too weak to walk so I began to crawl and by my luck I found hunters shooting deer they were preparing to drive off, so with all my remaining strength i ran myself over to them and as they looked puzzlingly at me I passed out, I awoke in a bed in a hospital, unaware where I was sadly they had brought me back to my hometown so I went home, eventually my mom got to see me and she divorced my dad and left, a few years later she was unable to support us and it looked like it was over for us again but then she met my current dad and she married him, life was going better now, I was intelligent, I was young and attractive, but because of my past experience with people not being very good I didn't know how to react with them, for a few weeks in school I was called the nerd, the geek and I had absolutely no friends but one day a boy tried to bully me and I snapped, I beat him to pieces and nearly knocked him out, and from that day it was the first time I ever made a friend, his friend became my friend and I finallly felt like I wasn't alone anymore, afterwards I somehow ended up becoming a little bit of a bully and often making fun of people, I would put the garbage on this guy named Davids head everyday but not once did he do anything, few weeks after I had finally settled in I was coming to my classroom where I over heard my classmates talking about me like a freak and a monster and saying I was pathetic but yet the one who defended me was the very person I bullied everyday. From that day I realised what I was doing was very wrong and I chaged and eventually Me and david became best friends and everyone started to like me alot, We moved to England and David moved to the same area about a year later, we were aroud 10-11 aeound that time one day even though his mom told us not to me and david were out late playing around in town on our way home we were going through an alleyway when a man came out with what appeared to be a knife, he told us to give him our money and as we had none we both thought he was going to kill us, but out of nowhere David leaped onto him and knocked him over and the last time I remember hearing his voice he told me to run and that he'd be right behind me, and like a coward I ran only to hear the shout and silence of what sounded like a scream, I ran home never to engage myself with people again, After a year at the age of 13 I had finally come to grips with his death and decided to move forward in life, I had just recently moved to a new area and had befriended everyone in the school, everyone loving me to pieces, I felt happy, like I was living my life not just for me but for david too, I got into skating and stuff so me and my friends would eventually start skating and stuff to schoool, one day we decided to have a race, and as all of us flew down the last bit to school my friend didn't quite make it and he got him by a van, the van crushed his body and dragged him off along with it leaving a trail of blood I went home I didn't speak eat or sleep for several days but finally got to terms with it, At the age of 15 I fell in love for the first time, the way me and this girl met was too much to just be chance it was fate and i'm still sure of it now, we were talking day night everyday for 8 months and we still are now, she recently broke up with her bf and I was scared to tell her I loved her, but eventually she confessed her feelings for me and I kissed her, this being both of our first kisses I told her about my mental illness and personality disorder and she accepted me for everything and still loved me, this was the first time I ever felt loved in my life and I felt glad, we eventually began getting more... sexual but we didn't exactly have *** only for several weeks later her to dump me, this break up destroyed me completely and I didn't go to school or talk to anybody for about a month and they all just assumed i died, not a care in the world but when I finally returned It had changed me, I became more serious and well here we are today, I still want her back and i'm trying to accomplish my dream which i think about everyday non stop on how I can do it and as it's so difficult it drives me crazy because It just seems impossible but I know I have to do it...

This is my pain.
 

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Our world can only be saved if we all come together and try
 

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Our world can only be saved if we all come together and try

I read that long thing you wrote. And about the girlfriend situation, I know how that feels. You gave everything you had to a girl who changed her mind. I feel for you my friend
 

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I read that long thing you wrote. And about the girlfriend situation, I know how that feels. You gave everything you had to a girl who changed her mind. I feel for you my friend

We all suffer through life, it just happens that I suffered way more than a lot of people, I was always an outcast, but now that I have a real family and real friends, i'll do anything to protect that even give up my own life.
 

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We try and make things seem easier and better for other people by trying to make even the wrong things right, I have no problems with Homosexuals but I do not believe gay marriage should be allowed in a church but look what's happening, it's started to become a reality that we will all have to accept as modern day life whether we like it or not.

I totally agree. Things are getting way out of hand, but you are correct my friend...the world we know is getting worst on a daily basis.
 

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I totally agree. Things are getting way out of hand, but you are correct my friend...the world we know is getting worst on a daily basis.

The rules become bent in favor of the majority while the minority who want to make a real difference that will benefit people will always be ignored, everyone's ideas should be at least heard and considered not just because a large group of people want or don't want something :/
 

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How about this. Everyone accept that nothing can be gained without pain and suffering. Death makes room for new life. Being poor makes you work harder. Your parents split up. That should motivate you to make your own marriage work. Exhaustion is simply weakness escaping the body. That's the problem with the world everyone tries to avoid unpleasantness. Embrace it its good for you. I'm so sick of people trying to make everyone feel like they're the smartest best looking most special person in the world. Its like participation trophies. You just lost Johnny but here's a trophy for sucking. Don't feel motivated to try harder next season. All I really want people to do is learn to be proud of their scars and find value in adversity.
 
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The clashing ideologies of naruto are actually found in some great mythological epics. Vice vs Virtue, Good vs Evil, delusion vs awakening. All of the deep things that Obito has said are actually Kishi pondering the core questions of your ownself and to actually make you think about the way things are and why we struggle to be ourselves. Obito is speaking from his own ambition however his goal to create a dream world without hatred is something all of us want, but it will never work his way because it's an illusion. By the end of the show you guys will see how the purity that already exists in your very heart(in this case naruto) lights the lamps of the world. Kishi will show how it's done by action not dreaming.
Ok before I ask the question, I'm going to add a little background to it. Before I ever got into Naruto and started reading manga I used to be pretty negative on life on the inside but on the outside very happy go lucky... you could go as far as to say goofy. Recently my friend ( who had previously been into the series ) constantly referred to me as Tobi, I never understood what that meant until he told me to get into the Naruto series so as I went home i researched it since then I've been reading everything that's happened and would like to know if you guys think that this statement is true.

Applying everything into more realistic settings I think that Kishimoto has made Obito right in every way however, I don't think what he's really saying is applying to the Naruto world, I think it's applying more to the world that we live in because I personally agree with almost everything that he's saying and I do not understand why people are disagreeing with what Obito is saying because inside they know he is absolutely true, I'd like to get opinions on what people think about what Obito's saying, if he's truly right or wrong, no stupid arguments about "Oh he's just angry because he got friend zoned" I would genuinely like to get people's feed back on what Obito is actually saying because I find him as a very relate able character as well as Naruto but I would still appreciate feedback?
 
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As the Tao says: One who holds on to their weakness and flaws becomes strengthened. With happiness comes suffering with suffering comes happiness, it's good you understand this reality; this duality. What's better; everlasting joy, or passing pleasure? In realizing joy you make tough decisions. The good decision isn't always pleasurable!
How about this. Everyone accept that nothing can be gained without pain and suffering. Death makes room for new life. Being poor makes you work harder. Your parents split up. That should motivate you to make your own marriage work. Exhaustion is simply weakness escaping the body. That's the problem with the world everyone tries to avoid unpleasantness. Embrace it its good for you. I'm so sick of people trying to make everyone feel like they're the smartest best looking most special person in the world. Its like participation trophies. You just lost Johnny but here's a trophy for sucking. Don't feel motivated to try harder next season. All I really want people to do is learn to be proud of their scars and find value in adversity.
 

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Our world can only be saved if we all come together and try

I just want clarification. In layman's terms your ultimate wish is for this world to be a utopia?
 

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My birth was an accident. I was born into extreme poverty, when I was just a baby my family tried to kill because of my skin colour as i did not 'fit in' as I grew older about to the age of 5 I was not fed, I was not allowed to talk, leave my room or even look out the window, my only friends were books my only way to know about outside my room was through books, by the age of 6 I was already smarter than the average 11 year old, but that day my family decided that I had plagues their household long enough and as my mother was not allowed to see me or my sister, they took me far into the forest and left me there to die, for 3 days I cried to myself everyday and every step of the way I was aware that if I didn't get home soon that I would die, on the third day I was too weak to walk so I began to crawl and by my luck I found hunters shooting deer they were preparing to drive off, so with all my remaining strength i ran myself over to them and as they looked puzzlingly at me I passed out, I awoke in a bed in a hospital, unaware where I was sadly they had brought me back to my hometown so I went home, eventually my mom got to see me and she divorced my dad and left, a few years later she was unable to support us and it looked like it was over for us again but then she met my current dad and she married him, life was going better now, I was intelligent, I was young and attractive, but because of my past experience with people not being very good I didn't know how to react with them, for a few weeks in school I was called the nerd, the geek and I had absolutely no friends but one day a boy tried to bully me and I snapped, I beat him to pieces and nearly knocked him out, and from that day it was the first time I ever made a friend, his friend became my friend and I finallly felt like I wasn't alone anymore, afterwards I somehow ended up becoming a little bit of a bully and often making fun of people, I would put the garbage on this guy named Davids head everyday but not once did he do anything, few weeks after I had finally settled in I was coming to my classroom where I over heard my classmates talking about me like a freak and a monster and saying I was pathetic but yet the one who defended me was the very person I bullied everyday. From that day I realised what I was doing was very wrong and I chaged and eventually Me and david became best friends and everyone started to like me alot, We moved to England and David moved to the same area about a year later, we were aroud 10-11 aeound that time one day even though his mom told us not to me and david were out late playing around in town on our way home we were going through an alleyway when a man came out with what appeared to be a knife, he told us to give him our money and as we had none we both thought he was going to kill us, but out of nowhere David leaped onto him and knocked him over and the last time I remember hearing his voice he told me to run and that he'd be right behind me, and like a coward I ran only to hear the shout and silence of what sounded like a scream, I ran home never to engage myself with people again, After a year at the age of 13 I had finally come to grips with his death and decided to move forward in life, I had just recently moved to a new area and had befriended everyone in the school, everyone loving me to pieces, I felt happy, like I was living my life not just for me but for david too, I got into skating and stuff so me and my friends would eventually start skating and stuff to schoool, one day we decided to have a race, and as all of us flew down the last bit to school my friend didn't quite make it and he got him by a van, the van crushed his body and dragged him off along with it leaving a trail of blood I went home I didn't speak eat or sleep for several days but finally got to terms with it, At the age of 15 I fell in love for the first time, the way me and this girl met was too much to just be chance it was fate and i'm still sure of it now, we were talking day night everyday for 8 months and we still are now, she recently broke up with her bf and I was scared to tell her I loved her, but eventually she confessed her feelings for me and I kissed her, this being both of our first kisses I told her about my mental illness and personality disorder and she accepted me for everything and still loved me, this was the first time I ever felt loved in my life and I felt glad, we eventually began getting more... sexual but we didn't exactly have *** only for several weeks later her to dump me, this break up destroyed me completely and I didn't go to school or talk to anybody for about a month and they all just assumed i died, not a care in the world but when I finally returned It had changed me, I became more serious and well here we are today, I still want her back and i'm trying to accomplish my dream which i think about everyday non stop on how I can do it and as it's so difficult it drives me crazy because It just seems impossible but I know I have to do it...

This is my pain.

I'd say damn but ive heard worse. That girl is wrong for what she did. But you seem happy now right?
 

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I'd say damn but ive heard worse. That girl is wrong for what she did. But you seem happy now right?

I still regret everything, I have't smiled or known what happiness is since she left me, my life has been empty, that's why i'm determined to do anything to get her back and accomplish my dream!
 

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I just want clarification. In layman's terms your ultimate wish is for this world to be a utopia?

No, just a world where we can be sure our kids will have a chance to live freely and actually be happy
 

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The clashing ideologies of naruto are actually found in some great mythological epics. Vice vs Virtue, Good vs Evil, delusion vs awakening. All of the deep things that Obito has said are actually Kishi pondering the core questions of your ownself and to actually make you think about the way things are and why we struggle to be ourselves. Obito is speaking from his own ambition however his goal to create a dream world without hatred is something all of us want, but it will never work his way because it's an illusion. By the end of the show you guys will see how the purity that already exists in your very heart(in this case naruto) lights the lamps of the world. Kishi will show how it's done by action not dreaming.

Yes my friend we are very sure that this light will prevail, that is what we as a group are trying to create for absolutely everyone so that everyone has a chanced to live a good life without suffering
 

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How about this. Everyone accept that nothing can be gained without pain and suffering. Death makes room for new life. Being poor makes you work harder. Your parents split up. That should motivate you to make your own marriage work. Exhaustion is simply weakness escaping the body. That's the problem with the world everyone tries to avoid unpleasantness. Embrace it its good for you. I'm so sick of people trying to make everyone feel like they're the smartest best looking most special person in the world. Its like participation trophies. You just lost Johnny but here's a trophy for sucking. Don't feel motivated to try harder next season. All I really want people to do is learn to be proud of their scars and find value in adversity.

Accepting ones self as nothing is the first step in helping the world, think not of yourself as better than everyone but as exactly the same as us all, once we come to terms with our darkness we will realise we all share darkness inside us and turn it into purity
 

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How about this. Everyone accept that nothing can be gained without pain and suffering. Death makes room for new life. Being poor makes you work harder. Your parents split up. That should motivate you to make your own marriage work. Exhaustion is simply weakness escaping the body. That's the problem with the world everyone tries to avoid unpleasantness. Embrace it its good for you. I'm so sick of people trying to make everyone feel like they're the smartest best looking most special person in the world. Its like participation trophies. You just lost Johnny but here's a trophy for sucking. Don't feel motivated to try harder next season. All I really want people to do is learn to be proud of their scars and find value in adversity.

That sounds like a poor mans words to me. What adversities would the children on the rich suffer through?
 
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