A question to religious people

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im just gonna say that god isnt real, proof? look around you , world exist, NATURAL DISASTERS exist , and am i supposed to believe that god exist? dude , wake the **** up lol
 
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No one said we have free will. That concept doesnt exist. Whatever we're about to do is planned.

God gave no one free will, human's are merely robots.
 

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capitalist bourgeoisie are controlling us anyway. only redemption for humanity is to reanimate stalin and mao and go for some good old fashioned revolutions.
 

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Free will just means things controllable by an individual - Thoughts, words and actions.

God’s plan or pre-destination are things controllable by God - Nature, birth and death unless it was murder or suicide.

It’s a simulation similar to a game; the laws are written by programming team (God), but the player (individual) is doings out of free will. That is the only correct explanation of freewill and pre-destination. Other explanations are false, illogical and contradictory to the texts.
 
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Free will just means things controllable by an individual - Thoughts, words and actions.

God’s plan or pre-destination are things controllable by God - Nature, birth and death unless it was murder or suicide.

It’s a simulation similar to a game; the laws are written by programming team (God), but the player (individual) is doings out of free will. That is the only correct explanation of freewill and pre-destination. Other explanations are false, illogical and contradictory to the texts.
What makes you think this is true?
 

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Of course you have a free will that's why you are able to question God and his "plans" otherwise you wouldn't be able to create this thread in the first place.

There are some matters in which we have free will whereas there are some in which we don't. God has plan for everything.

If a mere computer can analyze and forecast by using "limited" data set. How is it not possible for a God to forecast and predict our actions when he has access to unlimited data of all future,past and present species?
 

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religious or athiest, doesn't matter what we think.

All that matters is to make life as comfortable for everyone as possible.

because if that's how you view religious people by mocking them for their beliefs, it can be applied to you.
what if you're only a simulation and all that you experience and all the memories that you have are just a program? what if you are only an infant AI being taught things?
 

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Of course you have a free will that's why you are able to question God and his "plans" otherwise you wouldn't be able to create this thread in the first place.

There are some matters in which we have free will whereas there are some in which we don't. God has plan for everything.

If a mere computer can analyze and forecast by using "limited" data set. How is it not possible for a God to forecast and predict our actions when he has access to unlimited data of all future,past and present species?
So we can both agree if there is indeed a god, he's an evil force that hates humanity ?
religious or athiest, doesn't matter what we think.

All that matters is to make life as comfortable for everyone as possible.

because if that's how you view religious people by mocking them for their beliefs, it can be applied to you.
what if you're only a simulation and all that you experience and all the memories that you have are just a program? what if you are only an infant AI being taught things?
Humans tend to mock what they think its absolutely ridiculous. I respect if someone wants to believe, however I'm allowed to question why they do. And most of the time their best answer is 'god/ bible says so then it must be true'.
 
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So we can both agree if there is indeed a god, he's an evil force that hates humanity ?
Can we both agree that YOU'RE evil? It's ironically even in your name. You must be very self-aware.

Humans tend to mock what they think its absolutely ridiculous. I respect if someone wants to believe, however I'm allowed to question why they do.
No, you don't. You posted this thread with the intent to shit on Christianity, specifically Christianity. You don't know any better. You're the edgy-wannabe stupid kid in high school who called himself a bisexual atheist that i used to be. And i hope that you will mature one day and actually learn how to be more respectful, civilized and objective. But i fear that is going to take a while for that to happen, so for now keep being a troll or whatever the hell you're doing.
 

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You're the edgy-wannabe stupid kid in high school who called himself a bisexual atheist that i used to be.
Wow, this is like the epitome of projecting. No wonder you're confused.


And i hope that you will mature one day and actually learn how to be more respectful, civilized and objective.
Says the guy who just insulted 'TheEvilOne" for questioning God, and also the guy who has time and time again defended Neo-Nazis.
 

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Wow, this is like the epitome of projecting. No wonder you're confused.
Yeah, i used to be just like you at one point belive it or not, just as repulsive. I hated America, i pretended to be a scientist, i slashed an image of Jesus and me a friend i used to have almost burned a bible. Why? Cause i was just as ignorant as you.

Says the guy who just insulted 'TheEvilOne" for questioning God,
So what, he's allowed to criticize but can't take criticisim? O boohoo

and also the guy who has time and time again defended Neo-Nazis.
I defended freedom of speech, wich is different. Something you don't give a single shit about.

Again i always forget that you have amnesia, so there, to remind you what i said last time. Let me repeat it: I defended freedom of speech. Make sure to screenshot it so you don't forget.

You have a tendancy to always bring up the "you defend neo-nazis" bs to try to demonize me, like a broken record, but to this day you still haven't been able to provide solid evidence that i've done such a thing. And i'm willing to bet most people here are full aware that you defend antifa and muslims despite calling yourself an atheist.

You're full of shit, you should probably just keep your mouth shut.
 
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Yeah, i used to be just like you at one point belive it or not, just as repulsive. I hated America, i pretended to be a scientist, i slashed an image of Jesus and me a friend i used to have almost burned a bible. Why? Cause i was just as ignorant as you.
-Don't hate America.
-Don't think I'm a scientist.
-Never slashed an image of Jesus or burned a bible.



So what, he's allowed to criticize but can't take criticisim? O boohoo
I never said that.

What you said versus what you did just makes you a hypocrite.


I defended freedom of speech, wich is different. Something you don't give a single shit about.

Again i always forget that you have amnesia, so there, to remind you what i said last time. Let me repeat it: I defended freedom of speech. Make sure to screenshot it so you don't forget.
You're full of shit, you should probably just keep your mouth shut.
Didn't you just clearly say you were defending free speech yet want me to keep my mouth shut? Lmao. Nice double-standard.

Yeah, sure, I'll take a picture of that. :lmao:

And just for the record, you defended them killing, not their freedom of speech.
 
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-Don't hate America.
-Don't think I'm a scientist.
-Never slashed an image of Jesus or burned a bible.
-Yeah good one. Because you never talk about how bad America is and how much black people are being oppressed etc.
-Another good one. Is not as if you're always overusing terms like "fact" and "evidence" and talking about science and putting it on a high pedestal as if it was holy.
-You don't seem that far off with how much you hate Christianity.

Never said that.

What you said versus what you did just makes you a hypocrite.
Coming from the biggest hypocrite on the website.

Didn't you just clearly say you were defending free speech yet want me to keep my mouth shut? Lmao. Nice double-standard.
It was a suggestion. I don't resort to deleting others comments and banning people just because i disagree with them.

Yeah, sure, I'll take a picture of that. :lmao:
Yes and put it in the folder right next to all the other "evidence" you have against me :lmao:

And just for the record, you defended them killing, not their freedom of speech.
Let me guess, you're going back to the Charlottesville thread again, to the part where i said i didn't care about what happened? Lmfao, did it really hurt that much that you're still bringing that up? That was a comment irrelevant to me defending their freedom of speech. Well actually, in a way i guess you could say it was. They had the right to be there, and there were a bunch of sjw's who went there looking for a fight. It's okay to protest but when you start playing with fire expect to get burned. I still have no sympathy.
 

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Let me guess, you're going back to the Charlottesville thread again, to the part where i said i didn't care about what happened? Lmfao, did it really hurt that much that you're still bringing that up? That was a comment irrelevant to me defending their freedom of speech. Well actually, in a way i guess you could say it was. They had the right to be there, and there were a bunch of sjw's who went there looking for a fight. It's okay to protest but when you start playing with fire expect to get burned. I still have no sympathy.
No I'm also talking about the part where you defend Neo-Nazi's pulling up in a van and shooting at a crowd of protesters.


Heeeey, about the time something would happen that includes white supremacists. Been a long time since you post an article from a website like washingtonpost. Been a lot happening lately but you only do this when it comes to white people :p Color me surprised.

You wanna know what i think? I don't care. If they were smarter they wouldn't go there to "protest" and possibly get shot. These degenerate's definition of love is hate, censorship, antifa, violence, and calling anyone they disagree with a Nazi. They are complete hypocrites and if they hate Richard Spencer so much because he's a racist or w/e they shouldn't be there at all to begin with giving him more notoriety. **** them.
 
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No I'm also talking about the part where you defend Neo-Nazi's pulling up in a van and shooting at a crowd of protesters.
Heeeey, about the time something would happen that includes white supremacists. Been a long time since you post an article from a website like washingtonpost. Been a lot happening lately but you only do this when it comes to white people Color me surprised.

You wanna know what i think? I don't care. If they were smarter they wouldn't go there to "protest" and possibly get shot. These degenerate's definition of love is hate, censorship, antifa, violence, and calling anyone they disagree with a Nazi. They are complete hypocrites and if they hate Richard Spencer so much because he's a racist or w/e they shouldn't be there at all to begin with giving him more notoriety. **** them.
Yeah, this is about that random thread you posted victimizing a bunch of snowflakes, right? I'll say it again. **** them. I have no sympathy for horrible people who don't have any sympathy for others.
 

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And why worship a god that makes millions of people suffer?
God gave man that kind of responsibility over what happens in Genesis 1:26:

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.."

And Genesis 6:5 shows what we did with that free will:

"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.."

God wanted so much better for us, but suffering exists because of our choices. In fact, Genesis 6:6 says God was heartbroken that ppl became that evil. So it can't be said God made us with the intent to jerk us around.
 

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God gave man that kind of responsibility over what happens in Genesis 1:26:

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.."

And Genesis 6:5 shows what we did with that free will:

"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.."

God wanted so much better for us, but suffering exists because of our choices. In fact, Genesis 6:6 says God was heartbroken that ppl became that evil. So it can't be said God made us with the intent to jerk us around.
u talk as if u know god in persson...pffff..
 
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