A question to NB about the SO6P and Juubi! Can you answer it?

[iSpeak the Truth]

So you all know, the Juubi has been revealed, and so has its eye....which contains a Rinnegan with Tomoe, possibly a combination of the Rinnegan and the Sharingan.

According to most assumptions here on the base, the Sage also possessed the Rinnegan, somehow, before he went up against the Juubi! With the argument being...."how could he defeat the Juubi without a Rinnegan?", if sealing the Juubi means he defeated it anyway....

So my question is this.....Who possessed the Rinnegan first, the Juubi or the Sage? Or did they both possess the Rinnegan coincidentally?! O_O

well.......


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[Unbiased]

So you all know, the Juubi has been revealed, and so has its eye....which contains a Rinnegan with Tomoe, possibly a combination of the Rinnegan and the Sharingan.

According to most assumptions here on the base, the Sage also possessed the Rinnegan, somehow, before he went up against the Juubi! With the argument being...."how could he defeat the Juubi without a Rinnegan?", if sealing the Juubi means he defeated it anyway....

So my question is this.....Who possessed the Rinnegan first, the Juubi or the Sage? Or did they both possess the Rinnegan coincidentally?! O_O

well.......

Its been stated by kurama the juubi is like the alpha and omega he has always been and always will be.

 

[Killer B]

I think the Juubi had it first and when the SO6P became Jink he got the rinnegan or maybe even the eye the Juubi has

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Its been stated by kurama the juubi is like the alpha and omega he has always been and always will be.

I think the Juubi had it first and when the SO6P became Jink he got the rinnegan or maybe even the eye the Juubi has

Mmmhmmm.....so you're telling me that the sage didn't have a Rinnegan originally....right?

 

[Unbiased]

Mmmhmmm.....so you're telling me that the sage didn't have a Rinnegan originally....right?

No i'm not telling you that...the manga is not me.

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[Paintry4]

Well juubi got his magical eye 1st.i think during fights with juubi he got some ideas to develop rinnegan.obviously i think the fight betn so6p and juubi mite not be of a day,so that really went for a month or couple,during that time may be so6p got some dna from juubi just like madara got from hashi,that eventually turned so6p into 1st rinnegan user.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

No i'm not telling you that...the manga is not me.

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You're one of logical ones, no argument with you. Where are the people who will oppose this idea irrationally? I want them to try and make up an argument to this, or just simply say, they both had it, like children.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Well juubi got his magical eye 1st.i think during fights with juubi he got some ideas to develop rinnegan.obviously i think the fight betn so6p and juubi mite not be of a day,so that really went for a month or couple,during that time may be so6p got some dna from juubi just like madara got from hashi,that eventually turned so6p into 1st rinnegan user.

Lmao! That's a new one! Never heard that before! You do realise Senju DNA took an entire life time to take effect. In any case this theory is ridiculous!

 

[mangaanime7000sspt09]

the sage used his tools to seal the beast within himself and thats how he got the rinnegan. he was not an uzumaki, or anything like that,

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

the sage used his tools to seal the beast within himself and thats how he got the rinnegan. he was not an uzumaki, or anything like that,

So you think he was from a completely new clan?

 

[mangaanime7000sspt09]

So you think he was from a completely new clan?

the sage was not in some clan, to beat the beast, he used his tools thats all.

 

[thegame]

I personally believe that the Sage had rinnengan from the very beginning. Possibly even sharingan, and he was the product of the past senju and uchiha clans. However, the sage was different from them. He learned how to use ninjutsu, and thus he awakened the dojutsu - rinnengan. Dojutsu is ninjutsu after all. I don't see any way of sealing chakra inside yourself without understanding what it is. Rinnengan would allow him to see and understand what the Juubi was.

About the Juubis eye. Yes they look alike. But it have 9 tomoes and 1 in the center. Some say it is symbols for the 9 beasts, or its 10 tails. I think it's about the tails. Since the 9 beasts didn't exist before the Juubi did.

I don't think it is rinnengan. First of all most people draw it as a red eye. Why can't it be a completely new eye? And so what if it has something to do with the rinnengan. This may just be because the rinnengan is related to the shell of the Juubi.

However, you don't actually need rinnengan. Madara said this to Obito. He could still control the mazo without rinnengan, since he had senju + uchiha DNA. So it might have nothing to do with rinnengan U_U it's all about the DNA. And since the rinnengan contains both senju and uchiha DNA it explains why Nagato could also summon it.

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

The sage got his eye from God.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

I personally believe that the Sage had rinnengan from the very beginning. Possibly even sharingan, and he was the product of the past senju and uchiha clans. However, the sage was different from them. He learned how to use ninjutsu, and thus he awakened the dojutsu - rinnengan. Dojutsu is ninjutsu after all. I don't see any way of sealing chakra inside yourself without understanding what it is. Rinnengan would allow him to see and understand what the Juubi was.

About the Juubis eye. Yes they look alike. But it have 9 tomoes and 1 in the center. Some say it is symbols for the 9 beasts, or its 10 tails. I think it's about the tails. Since the 9 beasts didn't exist before the Juubi did.

I don't think it is rinnengan. First of all most people draw it as a red eye. Why can't it be a completely new eye? And so what if it has something to do with the rinnengan. This may just be because the rinnengan is related to the shell of the Juubi.

However, you don't actually need rinnengan. Madara said this to Obito. He could still control the mazo without rinnengan, since he had senju + uchiha DNA. So it might have nothing to do with rinnengan U_U it's all about the DNA. And since the rinnengan contains both senju and uchiha DNA it explains why Nagato could also summon it.

So the Juubi has some unknown ripple patterned eye with Sharingan tomoe and the sage had his eye from birth?

 

[lol99]

well sage is should be capable of defeating juubi without having overpowered techniques from rinnegan
fuinjutsus are haxxed

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

well sage is should be capable of defeating juubi without having overpowered techniques from rinnegan
fuinjutsus are haxxed

So you believe he didn't have the Rinnegan before he became the Juubi's jinchuuriki?

 

[Unbiased]

You're one of logical ones, no argument with you. Where are the people who will oppose this idea irrationally? I want them to try and make up an argument to this, or just simply say, they both had it, like children.

"Who possessed the Rinnegan first, the Juubi or the Sage"

If the origin of all chakra begot with Ten tails, then the rinnegan is descended from that. Dojutsu is spiritual and yin chakra in nature(elder son possessed the yin so to speak and the younger the yang). Therefore providing proof that without chakra no dojutsu would be around. This isn't meant to destroy any argument but rather provide some insight on the orgins of dojutsu.

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[Your Creepy Stalker]

SO6P, juubi doesent have rinnegan.

 

[thegame]

So the Juubi has some unknown ripple patterned eye with Sharingan tomoe and the sage had his eye from birth?

Well it's possible. But it may also be that they had sort of the same eyes. Think about it. The Sage was a "monk", or a prophecy or whatever. Sent to defeat the Juubi and create peace on earth.

Him, having eyes that resembles the beast he was sent to defeat, is probably not random. That wasn't what I meant to say.

Naruto seem to have the sages will. Kurama recognizing "the old man" in Naruto. Thus suggesting the eyes have nothing to do with it?

Anyway now lets say it is the rinnengan. And it comes from the Juubi. How do you explain that it is different from Madaras rinnengan. And how do you explain the creation of the sharingan? And why is the sharingan so unique, holds many different powers. And has abilities like seeing the flow of chakra, as well as giving many genjutsu as well as ninjutsu abilities. And why is that the MS is the evolution, but it does not give any genjutsu? And what does Susano have to do with all this?

Kotoamatsukami for instance isn't described in the databooks. But it obviously have physical and "real" effects. So it's probably like Tsukuyomi. A combined ninjutsu and genjutsu. And Tsukuyomi is labelled as ninjutsu in the 3rd databook.

So the sharingan must have something to do with yin and yang, and it is probably the closest we will ever get to the so called "creation of all things". Which the sage probably didn't have till after he defeated the Juubi, since it would require immense understanding of yin and yang, and the Juubi seems to represent yin and yang. So it may seem more likely that the sharingan has something to do with the Juubi? So the possibility that I am wrong is probably even greater xd

I just like to go with the least obvious possibilities and question theories. In order to prove theory, one must question every part of it, in order to find the truth.

 

[uchihamad]

What if juubi is the one who created so6p?