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Obito had the Kyuubi under his control via sharingan.

When Minato put a contact seal Sharingan disappeared.
This means Obito's contact with Kyuubi happened via Sharingan not some blood sign.
 

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No, Obito and Madara had a summoning contract w/ Kurama [how they managed to convince her of that, I'll never know]. Sasuke does not and cannot, since she's inside Naruto
 

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Everyone already knew that Obito controlled the Kyuubi with the Sharingan, your manga panel implies that Minato stopped the connection with a contract seal.

That still leaves unanswered questions:
- Did Obito try to re-summon Kurama?
- Madara tried to summon Kurama a few times during the war arc, mind us, that that panel passed years ago.

So I'm not really sure what that even brought into the table.
 

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In the existence of other forms of summoning techniques that dont use blood and rely on chakra to chakra at peers it cant be passed off as a fact.

While one can speculate that madara had the time to make some scroll write some rights and obligations text, sign it, force kurama via genjutsu to put it's bloody paw and all, Obito simply had no window for that.

@Bold Kurama inside naruto was not in genjutsu, seemingly the seal was only thing that held it off

Since your open mind and honesty allows you to see the possibility of other way via genjutsu/chakra based summon the answer to the topic still a potential yes in Sasuke's favor. :cool:


The answer is here LOL :cool:

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The Databook 4 was released on 4th November 2014 in Japan with Volume 71. Both Naruto/Sasuke ended their fight on 10/29/2014

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In the existence of other forms of summoning techniques that dont use blood and rely on chakra to chakra at peers it cant be passed off as a fact.
Yes, as far as I know, Pain's Animal Path also did not require blood for summoning; that is likely a special ability of that Path. Blood came from Itachi's eye when using Amaterasu against Edo-Nagato when reanimations weren't even supposed to have blood Lol

While one can speculate that madara had the time to make some scroll write some rights and obligations text, sign it, force kurama via genjutsu to put it's bloody paw and all, Obito simply had no window for that.
Obito learned about Kushina's birth from watching Kakashi at the Memorial Stone [ ]. It was still light outside at the time giving Obito plenty of time to prep for whatever he intended to do. Remember that Suigetsu and Sasuke created a special summoning contract to bring back Sasuke in the case of an emergency, and it was utilized quite quickly [ ]. Something similar could have been implemented within Obito's time frame considering he had training from Madara, who also summoned the Kyuubi, and had viewed the Uchiha tablet himself.

Since your open mind and honesty allows you to see the possibility of other way via genjutsu/chakra based summon the answer to the topic still a potential yes in Sasuke's favor. :cool:


The answer is here LOL :cool:
Haha, yeah. I'm not ruling it out as it has never been stated outright in the manga, just exploring the possibilities :cool:
 

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Read please: "Yin Release", which creates form out of nothingness and "Yang Release", which breathes life into form"
Yeap thats what Sasuke did with the Humanoid beta Juubi.

Sasuke pulled chakra. What is that? Petra Path
Didn't know Preta Path works remotely. Geez, it was Rinnegan's control over Bijuu chakra.
If it was Preta don't you think Sasuke used it on Naruto instead of the Bijuu considering Naruto isn't immune to Preta Path. So no it wasn't Preta Path, Preta absorbs chakra into the user not something else.

After Sasuke asborbed the chakra, what did he do? He placed the chakra into his Susano'o, similar to a Gedo Manzou. The same technique that Madara/Obito and even the Akatsuki did to try to revive the Juubi. Unless you are now stating your claims that Madara/Obito have Creation of All Things too.

Yes he took that chakra and created a Humanoid beta Juubi. Its COAT.
And Madara can use COAT to considering he unlocked Hagoromo's chakra.
Obito negated ninjutsu with Yin-Yang release. Don't tell me it was Black Balls since he couldn't erased 3rd Hokage when he was mindless, but erased Minato's arm when he gained his mind.
Madara also possess the ability to perform COAT. But ability and skill are different, can they perform it in Hagoromo's level ? Maybe Madara could with enough experience and study since he inherited Indra's genius. Obito ? I don't think so, he said Rinnegan overwhelmed him.

What Sasuke/Madara/Obito did putting the chakra into the Gendo Manzou, or in this case, Susano'o is essentially a reverse by putting 9 different chakra's into one, opposed to splitting the Juubi into the Nine Tailed Beasts. Understand? Mind you, every Rinnegan user in the manga has shown to do so. Sasuke performed it a a high skill level, that's all.

Rinnegan gives you ability to manipulate Bijuu chakra. Thats what Sasuke did by absorbing their chakras, but when he combined them together and created a Humanoid Juubi he performed COAT. You're mistaking them together.

Everyone already knew that Obito controlled the Kyuubi with the Sharingan, your manga panel implies that Minato stopped the connection with a contract seal.
If it was as you said Sharingan wouldn't disappeared from Kurama's eyes, only Obito's ability to summon Kyuubi since you're claiming Sharingan control and Summoning Kyuubi are different.

That still leaves unanswered questions:
- Did Obito try to re-summon Kurama?
- Madara tried to summon Kurama a few times during the war arc, mind us, that that panel passed years ago.

So I'm not really sure what that even brought into the table.

- You didn't noticed his injuries I guess. He retreated to save himself, and Kyuubi got sealed long before he could attempt to summon it.
- So what ? Since when manga facts has expiration date ?
 
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Exactly because the Gedo Manzou because available when one unlocks the Rinnegan/Or gains the Rinnegan. Dunno what that other guy was stating but it was ... weird.

Mazo was probably summoned due to having Hagoromo's chakra. The main thing with most (if not all summons) is some form of blood, chakra, or whatever offering to connect the summoner and the summon.

I just don't see what that is with Sasuke in this scenario...
 

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Didn't know Preta Path works remotely. Geez, it was Rinnegan's control over Bijuu chakra.
If it was Preta don't you think Sasuke used it on Naruto instead of the Bijuu considering Naruto isn't immune to Preta Path. So no it wasn't Preta Path, Preta absorbs chakra into the user not something else.
We didn't know Sasuke could perform coreless Chibaku Tensei's either. Ruling out that option is pretty bad. Sasuke had the Tailed Beasts from their control, and from we have seen with Sasuke using PS and Amen (S/T) that he can probably perform PP there too. Which explains how it was enhanced.

Yes he took that chakra and created a Humanoid beta Juubi. Its COAT.
And Madara possible can use COAT to considering he unlocked Hagoromo's chakra.
Obito negated ninjutsu with Yin-Yang release. Don't tell me it was Black Balls since he couldn't erased 3rd Hokage when he was mindless, but erased Minato's arm when he gained his mind.
Madara also possess the ability to perform COAT. But ability and skill are different, can they perform it in Hagoromo's level ? Maybe Madara could with enough experience and study since he inherited Indra's genius. Obito ? I don't think so, he said Rinnegan overwhelmed him.
Sigh. Truth Seeking Balls are created from Hagoromo's Senjutsu, or in Hagoromo's case, he probably gained it through COAT/being a Juubi Jin. Only JJ Jin's have it, and RSM Naruto. That's not a COAT ability. Truth Seeking Balls negate chakra:
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Seeing how Edo Tensei is a Ninjutsu ability, you are questioning if Truth Seeking Balls/Orbs destroying them? Really?

Rinnegan gives you ability to manipulate Bijuu chakra. Thats what Sasuke did by absorbing their chakras, but when he combined them together and created a Humanoid Juubi he performed COAT. You're mistaking them together.
Sigh, no.

"What Sasuke/Madara/Obito did putting the chakra into the Gendo Manzou, or in this case, Susano'o is essentially a reverse by putting 9 different chakra's into one, opposed to splitting the Juubi into the Nine Tailed Beasts. Understand? Mind you, every Rinnegan user in the manga has shown to do so. Sasuke performed it a a high skill level, that's all."

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Databook 4 which WAS released in November 4th, mind you Naruto v. Sasuke ended in October:
Yin-Yang Release

Translation:
Shinobi Well-Informed Record
Yin-Yang Release Techniques The "origin's" properties are filled with great mysteries. The Yin-Yang Release techniques are analyzed here.
Six Paths The secret technique forming all creation out of nothingness and giving it life.
↓ Spiritual and physical energy. That is Yin-Yang Release.
"Yin Release", which creates form out of nothingness and "Yang Release", which breathes life into form. The one with the skill to manipulate those two attributes, the Sage of Six Paths Hagoromo Otsutsuki, developed the "Creation of All Things Technique". He also created the nine bodies of the Tailed Beasts out of the Ten-Tails chakra, making them gifts of Yin-Yang Release. After this, the Uchiha Clan inherited Yin Release and the Senju Clan inherited Yang Release.
↑ Naruto, who acquired Hagoromo's power, demonstrates perfect [use?] of the Yin-Yang Release power.
← In Hiden Ninjutsu, there are remains of Yin-Yang Release...!!

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"...."

The Databook 4 was released on 4th November 2014 in Japan with Volume 71. Both Naruto/Sasuke ended their fight on 10/29/2014

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The databook itself states that all information is up to chapter 691 thus prior sasuke vs naruto fight where manga explicitly states that sasuke did just like hagoromo did (COAT), only inverse.

Yes, as far as I know, Pain's Animal Path also did not require blood for summoning; that is likely a special ability of that Path. Blood came from Itachi's eye when using Amaterasu against Edo-Nagato when reanimations weren't even supposed to have blood Lol
Basically it was summoning on FTG chakra basis where all that matters is chakra of same user.
Obito learned about Kushina's birth from watching Kakashi at the Memorial Stone [ ]. It was still light outside at the time giving Obito plenty of time to prep for whatever he intended to do. Remember that Suigetsu and Sasuke created a special summoning contract to bring back Sasuke in the case of an emergency, and it was utilized quite quickly [ ]. Something similar could have been implemented within Obito's time frame considering he had training from Madara, who also summoned the Kyuubi, and had viewed the Uchiha tablet himself.
Giving the time frame after seizing kyuubi under control, minato saving kushina, then Obito moving to the konoha to rapidly being engaged by konha forces and minato later on, i find it highly unlikely and even useless from small cockiness standpoint one may get after controlling kurama. Still a possibility i guess.
Haha, yeah. I'm not ruling it out as it has never been stated outright in the manga, just exploring the possibilities :cool:
Peace then:cool:
 
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I'm confused, how does Sasuke have COAT? What has he created, or better yet what has he destroyed since he's doing the reverse of creating?
 

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I'm confused, how does Sasuke have COAT? What has he created, or better yet what has he destroyed since he's doing the reverse of creating?

Nothing but false assumptions made from a troll.
 

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I'm confused, how does Sasuke have COAT? What has he created, or better yet what has he destroyed since he's doing the reverse of creating?

Sasuke has created that lightning humanoid that in itself is a result of fusing back once split juubi's chakra thus is inverse COAT, however on smaller scale since he did not consume all of the bijuu.
 

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Nothing but false assumptions made from a troll.

I still don't understand this. Even the Kurama scan refers to hagoromo draining the chakra from the juubi(hence the reverse), which is still not COAT.

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Sasuke has created that lightning humanoid that in itself is a result of fusing back once split juubi's chakra thus is inverse COAT, however on smaller scale since he did not consume all of the bijuu.

Sasuke put chakra into his PS, he didn't create anything.
 
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Sasuke has created that lightning humanoid that in itself is a result of fusing back once split juubi's chakra thus is inverse COAT, however on smaller scale since he did not consume all of the bijuu.

No no. Indra is stating this ""What Sasuke/Madara/Obito did putting the chakra into the Gendo Manzou, or in this case, Susano'o is essentially a reverse by putting 9 different chakra's into one, opposed to splitting the Juubi into the Nine Tailed Beasts. Understand? Mind you, every Rinnegan user in the manga has shown to do so. Sasuke performed it a a high skill level, that's all."

After collecting the Bijuu, the Akatsuki members drained the chakra and placed it into the Gendo Manzou, we saw this. The only difference is, is that Sasuke is performing it with all their chakra and on a higher scale whilst using the Susano'o instead of a Gedo.

I still don't understand this. Even the Kurama scan refers to hagoromo draining the chakra from the juubi(hence the reverse), which is still not COAT.

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Sasuke put chakra into his PS, he didn't create anything.

Exactly. They don't understand that COAT brings something out of NOTHING.
 
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No no. Indra is stating this ""What Sasuke/Madara/Obito did putting the chakra into the Gendo Manzou, or in this case, Susano'o is essentially a reverse by putting 9 different chakra's into one, opposed to splitting the Juubi into the Nine Tailed Beasts. Understand? Mind you, every Rinnegan user in the manga has shown to do so. Sasuke performed it a a high skill level, that's all."
The gedo mazo enables for a special binding technique such as chains, that bijuus cannot oppose since its their original body. Sasuke does not have access for this feature of gedo, sasuke used inversed process of COAT as kurama said.

Furthermore The rabbit spirit is what overrides those split parts as we could see the bijuus were still in their forms only clustered into a new monster. Sasuke's humanoid didnt have that.
After collecting the Bijuu, the Akatsuki members drained the chakra and placed it into the Gendo Manzou, we saw this. The only difference is, is that Sasuke is performing it with all their chakra and on a higher scale whilst using the Susano'o instead of a Gedo.
I am sorry but comparing gedo and susanoo in this case is like comparing plastic bottle to a radioactive container here.
Big difference imho.
Exactly. They don't understand that COAT brings something out of NOTHING.
This is big misunderstanding here. COAT creates a form out of nothing true, but the life force, the energy that can be instilled into it depends on yang resource which is limited.

One cant create superman or galactus out of it, one cant even create something that would best juubi since juubi's chakra is what was split out to power each of the bijuus.

Sasuke put chakra into his PS, he didn't create anything.
Kurama said so right? :rolleyes:
 
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We didn't know Sasuke could perform coreless Chibaku Tensei's either. Ruling out that option is pretty bad. Sasuke had the Tailed Beasts from their control, and from we have seen with Sasuke using PS and Amen (S/T) that he can probably perform PP there too. Which explains how it was enhanced.

Preta paths results your chakra to flow reverse. You can't use both Susano'o and PP at the same time, Madara is the prime example of it.


Sigh. Truth Seeking Balls are created from Hagoromo's Senjutsu, or in Hagoromo's case, he probably gained it through COAT/being a Juubi Jin. Only JJ Jin's have it, and RSM Naruto. That's not a COAT ability. Truth Seeking Balls negate chakra:
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Seeing how Edo Tensei is a Ninjutsu ability, you are questioning if Truth Seeking Balls/Orbs destroying them? Really?

Truth Seeking Balls are not COAT. If that was the case Mindless Juubito would've killed 3rd Hokage. He used it after he gained his mind back and erased Minato's arm while Hiruzen survived being hit by same jutsu. This shows Obito used Yin-Yang through his jutsu after he gained his senses.


Sigh, no.
Sorry that manga disappointed your wishes.

"What Sasuke/Madara/Obito did putting the chakra into the Gendo Manzou, or in this case, Susano'o is essentially a reverse by putting 9 different chakra's into one, opposed to splitting the Juubi into the Nine Tailed Beasts. Understand? Mind you, every Rinnegan user in the manga has shown to do so. Sasuke performed it a a high skill level, that's all."

They put it inside the Gedo Mazou which wasn't something they created out of nothing.
Sasuke on the other hand trapped it inside his Susano in the form of a Humanoid being.
You can't compare them like that.



Databook 4 which WAS released in November 4th, mind you Naruto v. Sasuke ended in October:
Yin-Yang Release

Translation:
Shinobi Well-Informed Record
Yin-Yang Release Techniques The "origin's" properties are filled with great mysteries. The Yin-Yang Release techniques are analyzed here.
Six Paths The secret technique forming all creation out of nothingness and giving it life.
↓ Spiritual and physical energy. That is Yin-Yang Release.
"Yin Release", which creates form out of nothingness and "Yang Release", which breathes life into form. The one with the skill to manipulate those two attributes, the Sage of Six Paths Hagoromo Otsutsuki, developed the "Creation of All Things Technique". He also created the nine bodies of the Tailed Beasts out of the Ten-Tails chakra, making them gifts of Yin-Yang Release. After this, the Uchiha Clan inherited Yin Release and the Senju Clan inherited Yang Release.
↑ Naruto, who acquired Hagoromo's power, demonstrates perfect [use?] of the Yin-Yang Release power.
← In Hiden Ninjutsu, there are remains of Yin-Yang Release...!!

/Taps chin

Sasuke showed the ability to use COAT at chapter October 16th. I don't know how much delay there is from Japan but a top it would be a couple days. Meaning there is 17-18 days between that chapter and databooks release. You actually thinking that Databook consists of entire manga ? It has no information about Naruto and Sasuke's fight. It is limited to Kaguya's defeat. And you think they completed the DB on the day they published ? Please..
And all the while Kishi draws the ending of his manga. That man always complained he doesn't have enough time to do as he wants in his interviews, its doubtful how much of time he spent with DB.
 
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The gedo mazo enables for a special binding technique such as chains, that bijuus cannot oppose since its their original body. Sasuke does not have access for this feature of gedo, sasuke used inversed process of COAT as kurama said.
Since Nagato was the person with the Rinnegan at that time, implanted chakra into the Gedo similar in the form of the way Sasuke did it to his Susano'o, instead they were using live Jinchuriki. What Sasuke did was an inverse process of COAT, correct, but that is not the COAT ability he is mentioning. He believes Sasuke can create something, from nothing, or in this case "Put the Bijuu into one". Hell no, that is the real COAT's ability. Which someone posted manga facts of how it works, and how it is explained in Databook Four.

I am sorry but comparing gedo and susanoo in this case is like comparing plastic bottle to a radioactive container here.
Big difference imho.
We have to compare them in this chase, because Sasuke used the PS in the form of a Gedo Statue. Which was never deemed impossible. Sasuke was just the first person to do so.

This is big misunderstanding here. COAT creates a form out of nothing true, but the life force, the energy that can be instilled into it depends on yang resource which is limited.
"Yin Release", which creates form out of nothingness and "Yang Release", which breathes life into form.

One cant create superman or galactus out of it, one cant even create something that would best juubi since juubi's chakra is what was split out to power each of the bijuus.
Hagoromo split the Juubi with the COAT, Sasuke took the chakra of the Nine tailed beasts and put it into one thing. Inverse/Reverse, one person is creating something from nothing, and the other person is taking chakra to place it into a storage.

Two different concepts here, but mimic each other in how they operate.
 

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Preta paths results your chakra to flow reverse. You can't use both Susano'o and PP at the same time, Madara is the prime example of it.
Very true, but Sasuke pulled the chakra from the Tailed Beasts. He did not create that, it is chakra, from an object/being.

Truth Seeking Balls are not COAT. If that was the case Mindless Juubito would've killed 3rd Hokage. He used it after he gained his mind back and erased Minato's arm while Hiruzen survived being hit by same jutsu. This shows Obito used Yin-Yang through his jutsu after he gained his senses.
That's exactly what I just said. Re-read the portion, I stated that COAT was not TBB because you said COAT was like TruthSeekingBalls :

Sorry that manga disappointed your wishes.
Sorry the manga disappoints your assumptions


They put it inside the Gedo Mazou which wasn't something they created out of nothing.
Sasuke on the other hand trapped it inside his Susano in the form of a Humanoid being.
You can't compare them like that.
"What Sasuke/Madara/Obito did putting the chakra into the Gendo Manzou, or in this case, Susano'o is essentially a reverse by putting 9 different chakra's into one, opposed to splitting the Juubi into the Nine Tailed Beasts. Understand? Mind you, every Rinnegan user in the manga has shown to do so. Sasuke performed it a a high skill level, that's all."

You're trying to rebuttal that with you can't compare the Gedo Statue to the PS? True, but since the Susano'o has feats of taking in the chakra thanks to the Rinnegan. You think it's impossible now? Hmm ...

Sasuke showed the ability to use COAT at chapter October 16th. I don't know how much delay there is from Japan but a top it would be a couple days. Meaning there is 17-18 days between that chapter and databooks release. You actually thinking that Databook consists of entire manga ? It has no information about Naruto and Sasuke's fight. It is limited to Kaguya's defeat. And you think they completed the DB on the day they published ? Please..

They would of listed Sasuke as a liable user of COAT even before he used it, if he had the requirements for it has you are "assuming". Unless you are stating he somehow received another powerup between transitions of 691+.


You don't seem to understand that COAT created life/substance. The fact that Sasuke needed CHAKRA from the Tailed Beasts and he needed to use the GEDO STATUE to hold it, creates the reverse affect
 
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Kurama said so right? :rolleyes:

Kurama was referring to hagoromo spiting the chakra from the juubi. Kurama never said COAT.....

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That's was the whole point of saying reverse, reverse of splitting is merging (what Sasuke did, merged chakra).
 

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That's exactly what I just said. Re-read the portion, I stated that COAT was not TBB because you said COAT was like TruthSeekingBalls :

I didn't said COAT was like TSB. I am saying Obito utilized it through TSB.

"What Sasuke/Madara/Obito did putting the chakra into the Gendo Manzou, or in this case, Susano'o is essentially a reverse by putting 9 different chakra's into one, opposed to splitting the Juubi into the Nine Tailed Beasts. Understand? Mind you, every Rinnegan user in the manga has shown to do so. Sasuke performed it a a high skill level, that's all."

You're trying to rebuttal that with you can't compare the Gedo Statue to the PS? True, but since the Susano'o has feats of taking in the chakra thanks to the Rinnegan. You think it's impossible now? Hmm ...

PS and Mazou are different. Mazou possess life force, it is actually alive. Putting its chakra back inside just wakes him up from coma.
But PS isn't alive, and PS has been nothing but an armor until Sasuke decided to use COAT and create a Humanoid Creature. Taking and manipulating Bijuus chakra isn't COAT, but forming them into one and creating a baby Juubi is COAT.

They would of listed Sasuke as a liable user of COAT even before he used it, if he had the requirements for it has you are "assuming". Unless you are stating he somehow received another powerup between transitions of 691+.
In DB they were also using some screens of said characters feats. Sasuke didn't showed that ability when they were preparing that part. Kishi is not a robot, it is obvious his priority was manga, he wasn't dealing with every single page of DB when his manga was on climax.

You don't seem to understand that COAT creates something out of nothing. The fact that Sasuke needed CHAKRA from the Tailed Beasts and he needed to use the GEDO STATUE to hold it, creates the reverse affect

I can still see very well thank you very much.

Hagoromo created the bijuus out of nothing than distributed the chakra of the Juubi to them and gave them life.

Sasuke on the other hand, he took chakra of 'Juubi' aka the 9 Bijuus and after combining them instead of seperating like Hagoromo he decided to create one life form. He used Perfect Susano which doesn't posses life force unlike Gedo Mazou and gave it a Humanoid shape intead of Fox or any other animal.
 
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