A Prime Ohnoki can potentially beat EMS Madara

[Zavage10]

When onoki saw ps he gave up on life...

 

[Lord Tywin]

I don't think so, I believe Onoki is one of the few characters who got stronger past their physical prime.

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I mean an ohnoki that mastered his jinton.

 

[Izanamı.]

That was kurama wielding Susanoo. Kyuubi Susanoo>>>>>>>>>Perfect Susanoo.

it was a KCC v3 on its own not Kurama wielding Susanoo. PS is 2 stages above v3. add the Kurama cloak v3 becomes PS leveled but no where near in DC. so no PS>KCC V3 but KCC PS > Normal PS. PS makes shockwaves this

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with a single slash

Obito was facing both Naruto and Sasuke. He wasn't even taking them seriously. It's a lot harder to hit a target the size of Ohnoki with Susanoo's sword, specially when he's flying constantly at high speed.

bold is an excuse. he was

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when he could but at that moment he was forced to block instead of dodging.

 

[DroGGz0r]

I also dont understand why i am recieving so much hate for my opinions?

What hate ?

I didnt say anything out of the way toward you, i have been nothing but polite

And I really appreciate that.

I'm glad to know having a different view makes me flawed.

Now I don't remember saying you are flawed, did I ?

 

[Lord Tywin]

it was a KCC v3 on its own not Kurama wielding Susanoo. PS is 2 stages above v3. add the Kurama cloak v3 becomes PS leveled but no where near in DC. so no PS>KCC V3 but KCC PS > Normal PS. PS makes shockwaves this

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with a single slash



bold is an excuse. he was

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when he could but at that moment he was forced to block instead of dodging.

It was a kyuubi covered by Perfect susanoo. That's that. By feats Kyuubi Susanoo is massively stronger than the Susanoo Madara showed in his fight with Gokage.

It was obvious Obito wasn't serious when he fought

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He blocked their attacks just so that he can catch them easier

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Obito never really tried until the very last moment of that fight.

 

[SenjuOfTheFrost]

What hate ?Hate was a poor choice of words. Just confused as to why my opinions are getting such attention?


And I really appreciate that.No problem, respect and reasoning.



Now I don't remember saying you are flawed, did I ?

No, you didnt outright say me. But i look at my opinions and my logic as an extension of me, and therefore a part of me.

 

[Izanamı.]

It was a kyuubi covered by Perfect susanoo. That's that. By feats Kyuubi Susanoo is massively stronger than the Susanoo Madara showed in his fight with Gokage.

no that's KCC V3

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not Kurama covered by PS.
they covered Kurama the next chapter

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[Lord Tywin]

no that's KCC V3

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not Kurama covered by PS.
they covered Kurama the next chapter

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I'm talking about Madara's susanoo and when kurama was using it. Why is Sasuke in this?

 

[Izanamı.]

I'm talking about Madara's susanoo and when kurama was using it. Why is Sasuke in this?

Kurama did nothing to buff up Madara's PS like it did to Sasuke because it can't share chakra without using Naruto as a medium​

 

[DroGGz0r]

No, you didnt outright say me. But i look at my opinions and my logic as an extension of me, and therefore a part of me.

Well, I did say that one of your many opinions is flawed, that not necessarily makes you a flawed person as long as your opinions are not generally flawed. :yeah:

That's like saying a really smart kid who once said something stupid is stupid, which is hardly true.

You get it ?

 

[Lord Tywin]

Kurama did nothing to buff up Madara's PS like it did to Sasuke because it can't share chakra without using Naruto as a medium​

For sure it did. Kurama's faster than Susanoo, and adds bijuus bombs to it. I still don't understand why Sasuke is in this conversation that's about Ohnoki and Madara.

 

[RidokuSennin]

eek







prime ohnoki gettin his grooove onnn

 

[SenjuOfTheFrost]

Well, I did say that one of your many opinions is flawed, that not necessarily makes you a flawed person as long as your opinions are not generally flawed. :yeah:

That's like saying a really smart kid who once said something stupid is stupid, which is hardly true.

You get it ?

I understand that, but it seems that that type of thinking isnt something you see on this site very much. Sorry for any misunderstandings.

 

[Gerkak]

Kurama did nothing to buff up Madara's PS like it did to Sasuke because it can't share chakra without using Naruto as a medium​

It did, if it did nothing to improve madara's offense why did he bother summoning it?

 

[Izanamı.]

It did, if it did nothing to improve madara's offense why did he bother summoning it?

to fuse biju bombs with PS slashes. never said his offense didn't became better. but his slashes didn't become better because of Kurama. his overall offense got better because he could fuse biju dama with PS slashes

For sure it did. Kurama's faster than Susanoo, and adds bijuus bombs to it. I still don't understand why Sasuke is in this conversation that's about Ohnoki and Madara.

it did not make his slashes better. PS slashes are the same on its own. Madara added the bombs later.
because Sasuke's V3 which is a tier lower than PS could hit JJ Obito who can fly faster than Ohnoki. PS would hit Ohnoki without fail

 

[Mahesvara]

Well Madara wiped the floor with him and Muu and as we saw during the war arc Onoki couldn't even beat Muu, so his chances are low.

 

[Lord Tywin]

to fuse biju bombs with PS slashes. never said his offense didn't became better. but his slashes didn't become better because of Kurama. his overall offense got better because he could fuse biju dama with PS slashes





it did not make his slashes better. PS slashes are the same on its own. Madara added the bombs later.
because Sasuke's V3 which is a tier lower than PS could hit JJ Obito who can fly faster than Ohnoki. PS would hit Ohnoki without fail

It's simple. Kurama is faster than Perfect susanoo by feats.
Also, let's compare a nimble susanoo like Sasuke's to a tank susanoo like Madara's. Sasuke's susanoo before rikudo power up had the speed, while madara's had the power.

Well Madara wiped the floor with him and Muu and as we saw during the war arc Onoki couldn't even beat Muu, so his chances are low.

That Ohnoki was like a teenager.

 

[Lightbringer]

Madara defeated both Onoki and Muu at the same time.

Muu was shown to be just as a powerful as Onoki.

 

[Izanamı.]

It's simple. Kurama is faster than Perfect susanoo by feats.
Also, let's compare a nimble susanoo like Sasuke's to a tank susanoo like Madara's. Sasuke's susanoo before rikudo power up had the speed, while madara's had the power.

how does Kurama being faster than PS improve PS slashes? :|

 

[Lord Tywin]

how does Kurama being faster than PS improve PS slashes? :|

He slashes faster.

Madara defeated both Onoki and Muu at the same time.

Muu was shown to be just as a powerful as Onoki.

A teenage Ohnoki