A Prime Hiruzen Will Never Be Stronger than Hashirama

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Here are reasons why
1)the most we have seen of prime hiruzen was when he was made hokage by tobirama and he couldnt kill gin or kin bros and sum elite shinobi with a uchiha danzo tobirama and sum1 else
2)if he was so strong in his prime why would old age make him so weak(you cant say he wasnt weak because the fight against the 1st n 2nd cause they were GREATLY downplayed and hiruzen still had trouble with them)
3)if hashirama was as weak as he was when he fought hiruzen he would have been complete canon fodder for madara
 

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if i had a dollar for every thread like this i wouldn't need a job anymore
 

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I already know this
 

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hmm manga said the 3rd is stronger you say the 1st i wounder who is right ...........
 
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Sooo hiruzen should own a edo madar if he owned the1st who was an edo and defeated madara with the nine tails backin him up
 

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Here are reasons why
1)the most we have seen of prime hiruzen was when he was made hokage by tobirama and he couldnt kill gin or kin bros and sum elite shinobi with a uchiha danzo tobirama and sum1 else
2)if he was so strong in his prime why would old age make him so weak(you cant say he wasnt weak because the fight against the 1st n 2nd cause they were GREATLY downplayed and hiruzen still had trouble with them)
3)if hashirama was as weak as he was when he fought hiruzen he would have been complete canon fodder for madara

learn to type first off :).

any who's did you not see the fight in naruto part 1? between the 3rd hokage and the first and 2nd. plus orochimaru? the 3rd who was 68 at the time defeated both the hokages? who were hailed as the strongest shinobi in there era? so tell me something take about 15 to 30 years off his old age, he would killed oro to along with the other kages. even EMNA his summoning commented that his power when fighting that fight was "misreable" compared to his prime.
 

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Here are reasons why
1)the most we have seen of prime hiruzen was when he was made hokage by tobirama and he couldnt kill gin or kin bros and sum elite shinobi with a uchiha danzo tobirama and sum1 else
2)if he was so strong in his prime why would old age make him so weak(you cant say he wasnt weak because the fight against the 1st n 2nd cause they were GREATLY downplayed and hiruzen still had trouble with them)
3)if hashirama was as weak as he was when he fought hiruzen he would have been complete canon fodder for madara

*Facepalm*.

Yes the Edo Kages wern't at full power, Nor was hiruzen, Enma/Oro Even the anbu commented of his old state being far weaker than his prime.

He was said to be the Strongest Hokage, None of the other hokages have this hype.
He was said to be The God of shinobi, Also Said to of mastered all the shinobi arts Nin/Gen/Tai, Also having 5's in all these area's even in his old state.

By hype hiruzen is the stronger of the Two.
 

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Here are reasons why
1)the most we have seen of prime hiruzen was when he was made hokage by tobirama and he couldnt kill gin or kin bros and sum elite shinobi with a uchiha danzo tobirama and sum1 else
2)if he was so strong in his prime why would old age make him so weak(you cant say he wasnt weak because the fight against the 1st n 2nd cause they were GREATLY downplayed and hiruzen still had trouble with them)
3)if hashirama was as weak as he was when he fought hiruzen he would have been complete canon fodder for madara

Manga > everything you just said.
 

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All i need is how does hiruzen counter BOD and Pollen ...and how will he tell which hashirama is real from his clones?...and if he gets hurt what happens...we all know hashi has lots of chakra and lifeforce as well as his healing thing...if he got hurt he will heal ...if hiruzen gets hurt i dont remember him being able to heal ...what can hiruzen use to beat hashirama? and dont give me ...o the manga said so blahblahblah give me an answer to how he can beat him and ill let it go that hashi can beat hiruzen
 

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hmm manga said the 3rd is stronger you say the 1st i wounder who is right ...........

No the manga didn't I have re read everything

*Facepalm*.

Yes the Edo Kages wern't at full power, Nor was hiruzen, Enma/Oro Even the anbu commented of his old state being far weaker than his prime.

He was said to be the Strongest Hokage, None of the other hokages have this hype.
He was said to be The God of shinobi, Also Said to of mastered all the shinobi arts Nin/Gen/Tai, Also having 5's in all these area's even in his old state.

By hype hiruzen is the stronger of the Two.

Hashirama was say to be the strongest shinobi the only problem is only hiruzen generations and older know this also some of tsunade's generations and older have heard rumours. I have proof if you want.

The god of shinobi title is a false name for him and was given to him by people who admire him.

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It's funny all hiruzen fans say the manga the manga but you are all wrong because I have re-read and I know the truth now.
 

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No the manga didn't I have re read everything



Hashirama was say to be the strongest shinobi the only problem is only hiruzen generations and older know this also some of tsunade's generations and older have heard rumours. I have proof if you want.

The god of shinobi title is a false name for him and was given to him by people who admire him.

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It's funny all hiruzen fans say the manga the manga but you are all wrong because I have re-read and I know the truth now.

Go for it.

Hashirama was said to be the strongest, This was befor Hiruzen or even Tobirama became Kage.
 

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This again :rolleyes: Until there is valid evidence of Kishi retconning Hiruzen's powers, or an outright claim stating Hashirama is the strongest Hokage, hype will always point to Prime Hiruzen > Hashirama.
 

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Here are reasons why
1)the most we have seen of prime hiruzen was when he was made hokage by tobirama and he couldnt kill gin or kin bros and sum elite shinobi with a uchiha danzo tobirama and sum1 else
2)if he was so strong in his prime why would old age make him so weak(you cant say he wasnt weak because the fight against the 1st n 2nd cause they were GREATLY downplayed and hiruzen still had trouble with them)
3)if hashirama was as weak as he was when he fought hiruzen he would have been complete canon fodder for madara

People like you need to stop. This is starting to get really annoying with everybody trying to down play my man Hiruzen..

1. Your first statement is stupidly written because we all saw hiruzen voulunteer himself and the 2nd hokage told him to go back to the village and become the hokage, so what was he suppose to do, disobey the 2nd hokage.. You fail :sy:

2. At least Hiruzen made it to see old age.. Your boy hashirama died young :p..
And everybody at the battle said that hiruzen looks worthless compaired to him in his prime which is till saying alot because he still deafeated the first and second hokage. One again you fail.:sy:

3. This last one is the funniest.. In no way shape or form was hashirama weak when he fought hiruzen, if you can recall they were surronded by a barrier and he created his tree world which filled the whole place and bound hiruzen (though it couldnt hold him), the problem with all the hash fanboys is "he didnt use flowering tree world",.. what your dumb @$$es fail to realize is that it would have put the 2nd hokage and orochimaru to sleep too..smfh fail number 3:sy:...

Now you say hiruzen was weak and cant beat hashirama in his prime even though youve never seen him fight in his prime. Yet, you are probally one of the same people who say hashirama can beat Edo Madara, even though youve never seen hashirama fight.. What you ae doing is called fanboyism and i sure myself and NB would appreciate it if you stopped immediately.


Thank you. :scorps:
 
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actually i believe edo madara would destroy hashi and 1st and 2nd werent at full power if they wer they would have killed hiruzen
 

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keep it coming.. hashi is the strongest kage ever
 
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