A possible hidden use for Limbo Hengoku and why it's so OP

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Ok, so everyone knows what Limbo is now. It temporarily creates a copy that can attack someone unseen. However, there might be more to it.

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This means one of 2 things. A. It requires senjutsu chakra to damage B. It specifically takes Hagoromo's chakra type specifically to damage the limbo version.


If B is the one (which I think) then that means, in general, the limbo version is not only invisible to anyone but Naruto and Sasuke, but also invincible to anyone but Naruto and Sasuke. In other words, Limbo users can do what Madara did against Naruto except with no damage.

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So yeah, one obvious thing is that you have 2 enemies instead of one. It's like having an invisible and unbeatable shadow clone. (Oh the jokes I'm gonna make with this on my sig!)


OK, the first hidden factor is down. Now to the 2nd and more evasive one.


I'd like to start off with saying that I think Sasuke indeed, has Limbo. I mean, what happened with Sasuke's sword looked a lot like what limbo would do.

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Madara hints "so that's the ability of your left eye." So I'm 95% sure Sasuke's been using Limbo. That being said, here's the hidden ability.


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Ok, to summarize, Madara attacked both simultaneously. It looked like a team effort to defend themselves, but it wasn't. They used their own powers to save themselves. Naruto threw his stick to be a lightning rod.(lol) But then Sasuke did something with his rinnegan, and then vanished.



At first glance, this sounds like "oh it's izanagi." However, that's extremely unlikely. I think this is a limbo power. In fact, it looks like Madara did the exact same thing.

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I don't think it's izanagi. It's possible, but I think it's a limbo power.


More specifically, something like this happens.

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Instead of the shadow returning to the body, the body returns to the shadow. In other words, Sasuke and Madara project themselves through limbo to another spot. Then, they use the connection to their shadow to return to it instantly instead of the usual shadow returning to the user.


In other words, I suspect that another usage of limbo is to enable the user to teleport. If they're in a tight spot, limbo users can escape most situations and also to very quick attacks using this teleporting ability.



Both Naruto and Sasuke are now bot confirmed broken. Naruto seems more broken in terms of brute power, while Sasuke seems broken for varied fighting.
 

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You're implying that Sasuke used Limbo to get away from the lightning? Then why didn't Madara see it?
 

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He used time manipulation, hence his tomoe started to disappear.
 

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You're implying that Sasuke used Limbo to get away from the lightning? Then why didn't Madara see it?


Perhaps his rinnegan isn't strong enough. Perhaps its vs Vision's<Sasuke's. Having a rinnegan does not guarantee the ability to see Limbo. For instance, Madara was going to use it against Obito, who had the rinnegan. It stands to reason Madara's rinnegan isn't as good.


I won't be able to reply for a while since I have something to do.
 

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Wow. Screw you!

For the past 30 mins i've been debating with myself whether to make a thread on this or not. Didn't because my last thread about the spoiler got deleted (assumed i broke some shyte rule)...

Anyway, agreed. I think that's what sasuke did. He traversed through the limbo world.
However, i think, instead of walking through the limbo world ,I think Sasuke and the limbo version did some kind of FTG swap.

You're implying that Sasuke used Limbo to get away from the lightning? Then why didn't Madara see it?
It's possible, due to having a more advanced eye, that sasuke uses a bit more advanced version of limbo where he crosses a bit deeper into the limbo world where madara can't see into. That's just speculation though...
 

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Nice thread, I can see this happening !


I have a question, about Sasuke's Senjutsu, how did he get it?

Was it Hagoromo, or Kabuto, or Juugo's cells inside of him finally activated giving him Senjutsu

Or was it that Sasuke has always had the potential to awaken a power that can be similar to Juugo's even before Oro gave him the curse seal of heaven, it's just that Sasuke's Senjutsu doesn't change his shape or the shape of his eyes just increases his power, without any physical change. What if Oro, due to his research on the Uchiha for a very long time allowed him to reach to the conclusion that Uchiha may have the ability to draw natural energy but only one person can awaken it, and him giving Sasuke the curse seal was a way to confirm if Sasuke was the one he was looking for. I also have the hypothesis that Sasuke was always to awaken the Rinnegan with or without Hagoromo or Hashis chakra or cells, unlike Madara. Tell me your thoughts on this theory=D
 

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Great thread again dude. I was thinking that sasuke used some sort of teleport jutsu. I can totally agree with you. Good job coming from a naruto fan :)

EDIT: I think there is difference b/w Limbo hengoku and just Limbo. Madara used hengoku against bijuu's only not against humans. He always says Limbo not Limbo hengoku.
 
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Great thread again dude. I was thinking that sasuke used some sort of teleport jutsu. I can totally agree with you. Good job coming from a naruto fan :)

EDIT: I think there is difference b/w Limbo hengoku and just Limbo. Madara used hengoku against bijuu's only not against humans. He always says Limbo not Limbo hengoku.

What if 'Hengoku' makes limbo a bigger version rofl.
 

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I figured out the random sword attack from Sasuke.

The first attack was because he saw the Limbo version getting ready to attack Naruto. Thus he threw the sword. However he was completely off.
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The sword gets knocked away behind Naruto. And Sasuke realizes his mistake. He mistook Limbo Madara for the real Madara and threw the sword prematurely. He is then able to see both Madara and Limbo Madara separately.

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Sasuke then moves to where his sword has fallen, and throws it at Madara once more. However this time, the two Madara's are overlapping and Sasuke lands his first blow.

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It wasn't time manipulation or genjutsu. Sasuke merely has the ability to see through Madara' Limbo. The same way Naruto can sense it.
 

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What if 'Hengoku' makes limbo a bigger version rofl.
Seems that way because i don't see how one Shadow Madara could pimp slap Nine Bijuu, It has to be a massive version.
 

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I honestly don't think it os Limbo.

For one, why would Madara imply that Sasuke had a different technique in his eye?

Not only that,but Madara was unable to see, or sense it, and I believe Naruto failed to sense it as well (not sure about that though).

Madara seemed to just escape the the clash,instead of using Limbo, or he at least used a different technique because Sasuke was surprised even after knowing the mechanics of the jutsu.

The way they moved also looked different, madara seemed to dash while Sasuke looked like he teleported.

Why would Sasuke explain his own technique anyway.

I don't I just don't want Sauce to have a jutsu already seen, so I might just be ntpicking.
 

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I figured out the random sword attack from Sasuke.

The first attack was because he saw the Limbo version getting ready to attack Naruto. Thus he threw the sword. However he was completely off.
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The sword gets knocked away behind Naruto. And Sasuke realizes his mistake. He mistook Limbo Madara for the real Madara and threw the sword prematurely. He is then able to see both Madara and Limbo Madara separately.

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Sasuke then moves to where his sword has fallen, and throws it at Madara once more. However this time, the two Madara's are overlapping and Sasuke lands his first blow.

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It wasn't time manipulation or genjutsu. Sasuke merely has the ability to see through Madara' Limbo. The same way Naruto can sense it.



One Problem....... Sasuke was nowhere near his sword, and it clearly showed Sasuke's rinnegan active and the fact that Madara commented that it was an eye power.

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Wow that is a really good and plausible theory and I really like the sound of the body returning to the shadow
 

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One Problem....... Sasuke was nowhere near his sword, and it clearly showed Sasuke's rinnegan active and the fact that Madara commented that it was an eye power.

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Notice Naruto was looking at the sword in the one page, and when he turns around again after the sword hits Madara, Sasuke is there. Sasuke and Naruto both move extremely fast, which is proven when they both hit Madara. The ability of the eye is that Sasuke can see his clone(the Limbo Madara).
 

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I didn't noticed Sasuke dodged Madara lightning really fast, I wonder was that the Juubi eye ability. I hope he's not using limbo too, that's Madara's move.
 
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