A possibility of a second Juubi?

[sageadvice]

i agree. i think that's the foreshadowing they are hammering home with the tailed beasts all offering their power to him and the overly clear emphasis that a resurrection of the juubi only needs part of each tailed beast's chakra. also, there's the discussion about the gold and silver brothers being special, in that they survived eating nine tail entrails, and that specialness obviously indicating a family lineage to the So6P. it seems to add up that naruto's body is also pretty special and has all the ingredients to become a juubi.

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

i agree. i think that's the foreshadowing they are hammering home with the tailed beasts all offering their power to him and the overly clear emphasis that a resurrection of the juubi only needs part of each tailed beast's chakra. also, there's the discussion about the gold and silver brothers being special, in that they survived eating nine tail entrails, and that specialness obviously indicating a family lineage to the So6P. it seems to add up that naruto's body is also pretty special and has all the ingredients to become a juubi.

I completely agree with you. thank your for taking the time to read the thread +Rep and i strongly believe naruto is related to the Sage of Six Paths. Did you read all of my posts and points on this thread? If not, please do, i think you'll like what you read

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

nah because then you'd need another gedo mazou to be the vessel
As it is the body of the original or what not and there is only one original body so there is only one gedo mazou , so no
rep+ for thought anyway

I agree:ice::noc:

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

I agree:ice::noc:

*sigh* -_- please, before you skip the whole thing and just post, read the whole debate between me and LssJbroly on this thread please

 

[crcdbz]

*sigh* -_- please, before you skip the whole thing and just post, read the whole debate between me and LssJbroly on this thread please

You make it sound as if I made no contribution:T_T: lol

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

You make it sound as if I made no contribution:T_T: lol

lol you will contribute a better argument if you know my whole argument

 

[kit]

did you reed about my theory of the elder son creating the gedo mazo.

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I read the theory. It is good but I don't agree with it. I believe the sage created Gedo Mazou because the latest chapter confirmed Gedo Mazou is the juubi's vessel.

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Remember that the body was blasted to the moon once its chakra (the tailed beasts) were removed from it.

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Did you reed the page about the sage telling the bijuu that one day they will be one.

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I also read this page but by what means will the bijuu's be able to combine into the juubi? The answer is Gedo Mazou which is the body of the juubi. All Gedo Mazou needs now is to be replenished with its chakra (the tailed beasts).

I think iv'e won the argument with all that i have posted, it all makes sense with all that i have said. if the sage said the juubi signified the end of days, why would he tell them one day they'll be one. obviously he did not create the mazo, or else he would have undone everything he has worked for.

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The sage didn't necessarily create Gedo Mazou since it is the body of the juubi. He instead sealed it in the moon.

In this manga scan below, Tobi tells the kages how the sage removed the juubi's chakra by splitting its chakra creating the 9 tailed beast. After removing the chakra (bijuu's) of the juubi, the sage sent the body to the moon to be sealed.

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The second juubi is debatable. I think if they choose to, they can manually combine, and thats what the sage intended, because if they did choose to do so themselves, it would mean they have finally come to a peace within themselves, cleansing the juubi of its apparent evil.

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This is a great attempt to figure out the meaning of Naruto (+rep) but doesn't really explain how the bijuu's can combine to become one being. By what means will they join together? By joining hands?

hey are already on that road, finding a passion for a human boy, giving they're chakra to him, and thus, emtrusting they're hope to him. With that in their hearts, if they combines, all of their minds would become one, so don't you think it would change the over all character.

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How? Once again, by what means will they combine? When they come to peace with themselves, they'll just automatically become one being? I understand why they would want to combine but not how. Please explain.

It can show how anyone can change if they choose to. With patience, hope, and love, inner peace can be found and evil can be turned opposite. But that is just a little of how much i have to argue with this whole topic.

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There is a reason why I keep bringing up Gedo Mazou. If the beast want to combine that is the means to it. Remember how Tobi's plan is to become the juubi's jinchuuriki using Gedo Mazou. In theory, couldn't Naruto try to wrestle away control of Gedo Mazou from Tobi and then use the beast inside Gedo Mazou to become the juubi's jinchuuriki that way Tobi planned on doing it?

+rep for the theory on Naruto's storyline meaning :noc:

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

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I read the theory. It is good but I don't agree with it. I believe the sage created Gedo Mazou because the latest chapter confirmed Gedo Mazou is the juubi's vessel.

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Remember that the body was blasted to the moon once its chakra (the tailed beasts) were removed from it.

You must be registered for see images

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I also read this page but by what means will the bijuu's be able to combine into the juubi? The answer is Gedo Mazou which is the body of the juubi. All Gedo Mazou needs now is to be replenished with its chakra (the tailed beasts).

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The sage didn't necessarily create Gedo Mazou since it is the body of the juubi. He instead sealed it in the moon.

In this manga scan below, Tobi tells the kages how the sage removed the juubi's chakra by splitting its chakra creating the 9 tailed beast. After removing the chakra (bijuu's) of the juubi, the sage sent the body to the moon to be sealed.

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This is a great attempt to figure out the meaning of Naruto (+rep) but doesn't really explain how the bijuu's can combine to become one being. By what means will they join together? By joining hands?

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How? Once again, by what means will they combine? When they come to peace with themselves, they'll just automatically become one being? I understand why they would want to combine but not how. Please explain.

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There is a reason why I keep bringing up Gedo Mazou. If the beast want to combine that is the means to it. Remember how Tobi's plan is to become the juubi's jinchuuriki using Gedo Mazou. In theory, couldn't Naruto try to wrestle away control of Gedo Mazou from Tobi and then use the beast inside Gedo Mazou to become the juubi's jinchuuriki that way Tobi planned on doing it?

+rep for the theory on Naruto's storyline meaning :noc:

good points +rep

1. i am still stickin with my theory that the gedo mazo was created by the elder son because he could not retrieve the body from the moon.
2. We've already seen the bbijuu's ability to share chakra, this can probably takin to the next level by merging chakra since they are living chakra masses.
3. gedo mazo was said to be the vessel, not the body. Two seperate things, the gedo mazo is a surrogate body, since the original is un-obtainable.

 

[kit]

good points +rep

1. i am still stickin with my theory that the gedo mazo was created by the elder son because he could not retrieve the body from the moon.
2. We've already seen the bbijuu's ability to share chakra, this can probably takin to the next level by merging chakra since they are living chakra masses.
3. gedo mazo was said to be the vessel, not the body. Two seperate things, the gedo mazo is a surrogate body, since the original is un-obtainable.

1. I couldn't figure out how to possibly refute this point until I say this:

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Seeing the above image made me consider that Nagato could have summoned Gedo Mazou from the moon. He seems to be the first person to summon it since Madara couldn't have because he didn't have the rinnegan for too long.



Then I saw this:

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I'm thinking that Nagato got stabbed by the rods as sort of a punishment for summoning Gedo Mazou for the first time. Sort if like a situation where someone is given great power but to use it has a huge drawback.

2. I don't think the juubi can share power. From the manga scans I showed you earlier, it was the sage who split the power of the juubi not the juubi itself. Maybe if the beasts all come together again (not just 8 of them like last time), then they could merge together. Maybe...


3. We'll probably have to agree to disagree on this part since I believe the original body has already been obtained.

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

1. I couldn't figure out how to possibly refute this point until I say this:

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Seeing the above image made me consider that Nagato could have summoned Gedo Mazou from the moon. He seems to be the first person to summon it since Madara couldn't have because he didn't have the rinnegan for too long.



Then I saw this:

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I'm thinking that Nagato got stabbed by the rods as sort of a punishment for summoning Gedo Mazou for the first time. Sort if like a situation where someone is given great power but to use it has a huge drawback.

2. I don't think the juubi can share power. From the manga scans I showed you earlier, it was the sage who split the power of the juubi not the juubi itself. Maybe if the beasts all come together again (not just 8 of them like last time), then they could merge together. Maybe...


3. We'll probably have to agree to disagree on this part since I believe the original body has already been obtained.

1. i find it funny that his punishment was rods that allowed him to channel chakra with... i personally think that it was only for that technique. Or for that technique, nagato actually CONTROLLED the gedo mazo so those rods were just to stream chakra through.
2.With all the fist bumps the bijuu have done, have you not see them give naruto chakra -_-.
3. If it was the body, tobi would have said, this is the body. not vessel. HUGE difference. A vessel is described as a hollow container, not a body. Although it can be argues that it is hollowed because of the sage. I personally disagree.

And nagato is just the first with the rinnegan we have seen, that doesn't necessarily mean he was the first to summon it. And if you "punishment" theory is correct, wouldn't tobi have been punished too... -_-

 

[phantomlord22]

it's possible...
vessel won't be a problem due to plot...

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

it's possible...
vessel won't be a problem due to plot...

What do you mean vessel won't be a problem?

 

[nNoma]

Naruto possesses the power of seven tailed beasts currently, excluding the eight tails and Shikaku. I imagine that the story will approach and go into detail on why he obtained all this power...it isn't that he will become a second Juubi, but it's possible he may have an insane amount of chakra which he can use to fend of the incomplete Juubi Tobi is currently Resurrecting

It would be cool to see anyways.

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

Naruto possesses the power of seven tailed beasts currently, excluding the eight tails and Shikaku. I imagine that the story will approach and go into detail on why he obtained all this power...it isn't that he will become a second Juubi, but it's possible he may have an insane amount of chakra which he can use to fend of the incomplete Juubi Tobi is currently Resurrecting

It would be cool to see anyways.

Thank you for checking this thread out and leaving a comment

 

[blazzy]

Wow dude thats a great thought good eyes

 

[kit]

1. i find it funny that his punishment was rods that allowed him to channel chakra with... i personally think that it was only for that technique. Or for that technique, nagato actually CONTROLLED the gedo mazo so those rods were just to stream chakra through.
2.With all the fist bumps the bijuu have done, have you not see them give naruto chakra -_-.
3. If it was the body, tobi would have said, this is the body. not vessel. HUGE difference. A vessel is described as a hollow container, not a body. Although it can be argues that it is hollowed because of the sage. I personally disagree.

And nagato is just the first with the rinnegan we have seen, that doesn't necessarily mean he was the first to summon it. And if you "punishment" theory is correct, wouldn't tobi have been punished too... -_-

1. Yeah but if you think about, Nagato gains the ability to control the immense power of Gedo Mazou but has to sacrifice his mobility forever. A good example would be how using the MS strains your eyes and you eventually go blind. Plus it aged him further than he's supposed to be since his red hair turned white.

2. Oops! My bad. I thought you said juubi not bijuu.

3.

If it was the body, tobi would have said, this is the body. not vessel. HUGE difference. A vessel is described as a hollow container, not a body

That is basically my point though. Right now Gedo Mazou is the empty vessel of the juubi. The full body won't be revived until Mazou recieves its chakra which is the bijuu's.

Although it can be argues that it is hollowed because of the sage. I personally disagree.

Yeah but I have already shown you the manga scan that proves this:

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And nagato is just the first with the rinnegan we have seen, that doesn't necessarily mean he was the first to summon it. And if you "punishment" theory is correct, wouldn't tobi have been punished too... -_-

What I was trying to say was IMO since Nagato was the first one to summon Gedo Mazou (at least that we know of to this point), he is the one who got impaled with the chakra rods. That explains why Tobi didn't get impaled by the same rods when using Mazou hence he is still mobile and they're are no huge rods in his back.

 

[Wakoo]

no

 

[AlexRG23]

nah because then you'd need another gedo mazou to be the vessel
As it is the body of the original or what not and there is only one original body so there is only one gedo mazou , so no
rep+ for thought anyway

Not necessarily though, look at kurama, he is just chakra yet he forms a body, so the same can be done with juubi.
Also, remember that So6P said that there would come a day when all the beast would combine and the 10 tails would be revived, but in a different form. Maybe he meant this...... Not Tobi's revival of it, but Naruto's.

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

1. Yeah but if you think about, Nagato gains the ability to control the immense power of Gedo Mazou but has to sacrifice his mobility forever. A good example would be how using the MS strains your eyes and you eventually go blind. Plus it aged him further than he's supposed to be since his red hair turned white.

2. Oops! My bad. I thought you said juubi not bijuu.

3.

That is basically my point though. Right now Gedo Mazou is the empty vessel of the juubi. The full body won't be revived until Mazou recieves its chakra which is the bijuu's.



Yeah but I have already shown you the manga scan that proves this:

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What I was trying to say was IMO since Nagato was the first one to summon Gedo Mazou (at least that we know of to this point), he is the one who got impaled with the chakra rods. That explains why Tobi didn't get impaled by the same rods when using Mazou hence he is still mobile and they're are no huge rods in his back.

1. The Gedo Mazo didn't age nagato, nagato just aged. If your talking about nagato becoming emaciated, the staue only did that slightly, he only got a lil' skinnier the first time from the huge chakra drainage. For the rest, think about it this way, controlling six bodies every movement, keeping a contant rain jutsu to be the ultimate creeper, giving each corpse an ability of the rinnegan, and the other jutsu's used while doing all of this. Its going to take a toll on his body because he overdoes that amount of chakra he should have used. Like when he decided to decimate the leaf, konan warned him about the consequences but he was to ignorant and did it anyway. his hair turned white because he was already out of chakra, then revived everyone who recently died, which killed him, NOT THE MAZO'S DOING!

2. lol

3.

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, you need to have a contract to summon it, no one became an astronot, then had an archeology exhibition, and dug up the body. Once again I argue with, gedo mazo is an imitation of the juubi, but at the same time a vessel, for the juubi to be reincarnated in. I gotta hand it to you, you can keep an argument going lol

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

Not necessarily though, look at kurama, he is just chakra yet he forms a body, so the same can be done with juubi.
Also, remember that So6P said that there would come a day when all the beast would combine and the 10 tails would be revived, but in a different form. Maybe he meant this...... Not Tobi's revival of it, but Naruto's.

Finally an intelligent and open minded thinker steps in, +rep