A place beyond this...

[Dreckerplayer]

Beyond religion and other ideologies...do you believe that there could be somewhere our "souls" go to when we finally leave this material world?

No one can sit there and say "No, we just die, and that's it"...that's incredibly stupid.That sounds incredibly selfish.

However, if that were to happen, then it is what it is. But I wouldn't see the purpose of ceasing to exist. It's just the dumbest thing I've ever heard.Why start something, then when it ends, that's that? Why manifest a universe, build up all this fear and intolerance to death...and then "poof" we're dead, and we don't exist anymore? It's a complete waste of time, and we're better of not existing from the START. It's straight up disappointment. I think this place is an self-operating, somewhat like a"social experiment", and not the kind of "social experiments" that we're use to, but something far beyond us.And we're all being used to figure shit out. It's beyond TECHNOLOGY, It's beyond SCIENCE...and it cannot be thoroughly explained or grasped. Not even the greatest mind can fully understand.And to top it off, we can never truly know, but "wonder".

I think the idea of not having anywhere to go is dumb.But at the same time, I feel if we knew for a fact, that somethings there after death, which I think there is, I think people would think it's okay to commit suicide...I think this is part of the reason why it cannot be confirmed or discovered. And I feel if scientists were able to discover this "life beyond the material world"...then they'd, of course, MANIPULATE that.They'd try to get there hands on this, because they're so self-entitled, controlling, and obsessed with being the first to know something.Something beyond our man-made concepts and science.

Anyway...just a "suspicion"...a "wonder".

 

[Dreckerplayer]

To add to that,

I think we were souls before we became "humans".

 

[Donald J Trump]

Just because something is disappointing doesn't make it any more or less likely to be the truth. I don't believe that I was a soul before I died or that I will go anywhere after my death. Do I want there to be something? Sure, I do. I'm scared of dying, but it's also confusing. If I was immortal would I have any motivation? Probably not. If I we knew that we were going to live forever we wouldn't advance 1/1000 as quickly as we do. We only follow our dreams and ideas because we know we have a small window of life (on earth at least).

Without death, life loses meaning. What would be nice is to be able to choose when I die.Forgetting the scientists and forgetting books. Slowly through life It seems that I alone have pieced the puzzle of life together over the years with little theories here and there. It may be very wrong but it's logical and doesn't depend on superstition. My personal understanding also doesn't conflict with the other views, in fact it's all connected.The idea of reincarnation or souls have dozens of flaws and holes which you have to answer by thinking " I'll have faith".

I'm only 19, so there's still time to have a change of heart but realistically I don't think I will. But honestly, I do think I have life figured out in terms of the 5 W. Who,what, when, where and why.

 

[UchiGOD]

To add to that,

I think we were souls before we became "humans".

How do you think did that soul come from?

 

[UchiGOD]

Beyond religion and other ideologies...do you believe that there could be somewhere our "souls" go to when we finally leave this material world?

Yes.To me,life is just a temporary place where our souls are limited to our bodies in order to find/improve themselves. And death, is when we are freed from this material world, and that's when our souls gain their true form and power,and go to where they once belonged.

Why start something, then when it ends, that's that? Why manifest a universe, build up all this fear and intolerance to death...and then "poof" we're dead, and we don't exist anymore? It's a complete waste of time, and we're better of not existing from the START.

So... You believe in God? Or "mother nature"?

It's straight up disappointment. I think this place is an self-operating, somewhat like a"social experiment", and not the kind of "social experiments" that we're use to, but something far beyond us.And we're all being used to figure shit out. It's beyond TECHNOLOGY, It's beyond SCIENCE...and it cannot be thoroughly explained or grasped. Not even the greatest mind can fully understand.And to top it off, we can never truly know, but "wonder".

I guess we will know one day,and the day's when we die. While we are here,we do not have complete access to our soul(it's information and abilities). We are here to learn about it(self awareness),shape it(personality) and find the right way of living(the answer to questions like: why are we born? What's the meaning of life? And where are we going?) and finally get ready for it's final destination.
After death, our soul will be freed from the body , find out the right answers of the questions I said,and learn every fact about this world.
If the answers fit the place the soul belonged to(or in other words,the place it deserves/was made for), then it will be calm and happy(truly,and never ending).That's what I call heaven.
If the answers did bot fit,the soul will suffer,that's what I call hell. Tho,the suffering will be over one day,and soul will learn the right path and truth.

I think the idea of not having anywhere to go is dumb.But at the same time, I feel if we knew for a fact, that somethings there after death, which I think there is, I think people would think it's okay to commit suicide...I think this is part of the reason why it cannot be confirmed or discovered. And I feel if scientists were able to discover this "life beyond the material world"...then they'd, of course, MANIPULATE that.They'd try to get there hands on this, because they're so self-entitled, controlling, and obsessed with being the first to know something.Something beyond our man-made concepts and science.

Scientists only see the physical side of this world. Specially about humen. They think everything should make sense to their limited and incomplete information and if it doesn't, it's wrong/illogical.That's stupid. Science is what we have discovered from world around us, and all the mathematics happens in our minds. It's just the connections and reasons we have found in nature(and they are changeable, like,around 100 years ago,the idea of expanding universe was considered to be idiotic)so it can never be pure truth. I don't call it wrong(as many things have been proved to be right and fact). but I don't see it as a valid source to define reality either (it's just a way to reality,not reality itself,or it's destination).

 

[Chikombo]

We were not alive before we were born, at least we don't remember being alive, so perhaps we do just die when we die.
But there could for sure be something more to it. I would like to think so.

 

[Ambivalence]

No such thing, sadly. The only thing awaiting after death is infinite nothingness that you can't even be cognizant of. That scares the hell out of me, but everyone has to deal with that thought eventually.

 

[UchiGOD]

No such thing, sadly. The only thing awaiting after death is infinite nothingness that you can't even be cognizant of. That scares the hell out of me, but everyone has to deal with that thought eventually.

How can you say it's only nothingness?
Following your logic,if you become nothing,then you can't feel that"you've become nothing". You are gone,so is your thoughts and senses.It's not that you become lonely ...you'll join the nohingness itself. Did I get it right?
If yes,then it shouldn't be scary.

 

[Ambivalence]

How can you say it's only nothingness?
Following your logic,if you become nothing,then you can't feel that"you've become nothing". You are gone,so is your thoughts and senses.It's not that you become lonely ...you'll join the nohingness itself. Did I get it right?
If yes,then it shouldn't be scary.

Not being aware, conscious, alive, present in this world - that's death, and that's what scares me. How can it not be a logical fear? If it doesn't bother you then you're a braver person than I.

 

[Uverdore9]

Souls go to a place. That place is either hell or heaven. Or they roam and run around. In this world. Looking for a man to possess. Ghost stories arised from this.

 

[Uverdore9]

No such thing, sadly. The only thing awaiting after death is infinite nothingness that you can't even be cognizant of. That scares the hell out of me, but everyone has to deal with that thought eventually.

You came from somewhere. You'll go to "somewhere". Sure of that.

 

[Yeah right]

Beyond religion and other ideologies...do you believe that there could be somewhere our "souls" go to when we finally leave this material world?

No one can sit there and say "No, we just die, and that's it"...that's incredibly stupid.That sounds incredibly selfish.

However, if that were to happen, then it is what it is. But I wouldn't see the purpose of ceasing to exist. It's just the dumbest thing I've ever heard.Why start something, then when it ends, that's that? Why manifest a universe, build up all this fear and intolerance to death...and then "poof" we're dead, and we don't exist anymore? It's a complete waste of time, and we're better of not existing from the START. It's straight up disappointment. I think this place is an self-operating, somewhat like a"social experiment", and not the kind of "social experiments" that we're use to, but something far beyond us.And we're all being used to figure shit out. It's beyond TECHNOLOGY, It's beyond SCIENCE...and it cannot be thoroughly explained or grasped. Not even the greatest mind can fully understand.And to top it off, we can never truly know, but "wonder".

I think the idea of not having anywhere to go is dumb.But at the same time, I feel if we knew for a fact, that somethings there after death, which I think there is, I think people would think it's okay to commit suicide...I think this is part of the reason why it cannot be confirmed or discovered. And I feel if scientists were able to discover this "life beyond the material world"...then they'd, of course, MANIPULATE that.They'd try to get there hands on this, because they're so self-entitled, controlling, and obsessed with being the first to know something.Something beyond our man-made concepts and science.

Anyway...just a "suspicion"...a "wonder".

Wow. So much entitlement. So much presumptions it’s disgusting. You whine and whine but you don’t do anything. I bet you like the convenience. You take advantage of it. I see it plain as day.

You think so small. You probably live a small life. Take DMT if you want answers.

 

[UchiGOD]

Not being aware, conscious, alive, present in this world - that's death, and that's what scares me.

Well uh,in a place where you aren't conscious and aware,I don't think you'd be able to feel fear,will you?

How can it not be a logical fear? If it doesn't bother you then you're a braver person than I.

I don't think we'll become "nothing". I do believe in an afterlife... So I'm not scared ^_^

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Just because something is disappointing doesn't make it any more or less likely to be the truth. I don't believe that I was a soul before I died or that I will go anywhere after my death. Do I want there to be something? Sure, I do. I'm scared of dying, but it's also confusing. If I was immortal would I have any motivation? Probably not. If I we knew that we were going to live forever we wouldn't advance 1/1000 as quickly as we do. We only follow our dreams and ideas because we know we have a small window of life (on earth at least).

Without death, life loses meaning. What would be nice is to be able to choose when I die.Forgetting the scientists and forgetting books. Slowly through life It seems that I alone have pieced the puzzle of life together over the years with little theories here and there. It may be very wrong but it's logical and doesn't depend on superstition. My personal understanding also doesn't conflict with the other views, in fact it's all connected.The idea of reincarnation or souls have dozens of flaws and holes which you have to answer by thinking " I'll have faith".

I'm only 19, so there's still time to have a change of heart but realistically I don't think I will. But honestly, I do think I have life figured out in terms of the 5 W. Who,what, when, where and why.

You're full of misunderstandings.I feel tons of personal insecurities when I read your posts, you've got to stop projecting. And you're full of ulterior motives.You just can't help yourself.

However,I appreciate that you have an opinion on the matter, but it seems you couldn't help yourself but to assume that I believe in reincarnation. I hope it doesn't exist, I don't like that idea.

You can't come in a situation with a bunch of assumptions about a person. Stop reacting based off of your own personal insecurities...it makes you look bad.

Dude, you over react based off of jealousy. You should really stop...I peep some of the shit you do out of jealousy spite...really disgusting.

"who, what when,where, why"...lmao, no you didn't...yeah, right.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Wow. So much entitlement. So much presumptions it’s disgusting. You whine and whine but you don’t do anything. I bet you like the convenience. You take advantage of it. I see it plain as day.

You think so small. You probably live a small life. Take DMT if you want answers.

Still going through ego collapse, aren't you. And I see those jealous, conniving sore-losers are co-signing with your self-projections, again.

Do what you gotta do to recover your ego, huh.Any chance you get.

No such thing, sadly. The only thing awaiting after death is infinite nothingness that you can't even be cognizant of. That scares the hell out of me, but everyone has to deal with that thought eventually.

You don't know, cause you've never died.

You just want to make an impression.You're not a higher power, you aren't an oracle, you aren't a "go-to" for anything.

In fact, you can't know for a fact, like I everyone else. lmao.

We were not alive before we were born, at least we don't remember being alive, so perhaps we do just die when we die.
But there could for sure be something more to it. I would like to think so.

You don't know, like I said. You can't know.Who are you, and how could you know?

Exactly.

Yes.To me,life is just a temporary place where our souls are limited to our bodies in order to find/improve themselves. And death, is when we are freed from this material world, and that's when our souls gain their true form and power,and go to where they once belonged.


So... You believe in God? Or "mother nature"?

I guess we will know one day,and the day's when we die. While we are here,we do not have complete access to our soul(it's information and abilities). We are here to learn about it(self awareness),shape it(personality) and find the right way of living(the answer to questions like: why are we born? What's the meaning of life? And where are we going?) and finally get ready for it's final destination.
After death, our soul will be freed from the body , find out the right answers of the questions I said,and learn every fact about this world.
If the answers fit the place the soul belonged to(or in other words,the place it deserves/was made for), then it will be calm and happy(truly,and never ending).That's what I call heaven.
If the answers did bot fit,the soul will suffer,that's what I call hell. Tho,the suffering will be over one day,and soul will learn the right path and truth.

Scientists only see the physical side of this world. Specially about humen. They think everything should make sense to their limited and incomplete information and if it doesn't, it's wrong/illogical.That's stupid. Science is what we have discovered from world around us, and all the mathematics happens in our minds. It's just the connections and reasons we have found in nature(and they are changeable, like,around 100 years ago,the idea of expanding universe was considered to be idiotic)so it can never be pure truth. I don't call it wrong(as many things have been proved to be right and fact). but I don't see it as a valid source to define reality either (it's just a way to reality,not reality itself,or it's destination).

I agree on some points, just slightly different.

And no I don't believe in "god" or "mother nature"...those are man-made concepts.

Well uh,in a place where you aren't conscious and aware,I don't think you'd be able to feel fear,will you?

I don't think we'll become "nothing". I do believe in an afterlife... So I'm not scared ^_^

He doesn't know what he's talking about.

They'll die and go nowhere, if anything, lmao...they don't deserve anything.That's what an undeserving person is, and naturally, they should instinctively know what's in store for them. They already live in oblivion, anyways.

Or, they just wanted attention...the usual

 

[UchiGOD]

I agree on some points, just slightly different.

And no I don't believe in "god" or "mother nature"...those are man-made concepts.

How different? I'd like to hear that.

 

[Queen of Bananas]

i know i'm going to hell tbh, allah clearly hates me.

 

[UchiGOD]

i know i'm going to hell tbh, allah clearly hates me.

How so?

 

[Dissonant Values]

Take Paschal’s Wager

Live your life to the best of your ability. Treat others as you would like to be treated. Do no harm.

If there is a place the soul goes after death, and supposing there is a god or a creator, surely you will reap the rewards of a good life.

If there is nothing after death, you will have still lived a good life and others will praise you for it.

 

[Queen of Bananas]

How so?

don't mind me, just expressing myself and this is what i believe right now.