A part of you that you wish to change

[Jazzy Stardust]

I'll never expect or trust anyone to do the right thing. Always be on guard for the worst. People aren't all bad but people aren't all good, I've been taken advantage of concerning my kindness and I've done so much and gotten so little in return. I won't judge someone and deem them as bad, but I wont expect them to do what's right.

and that makes you condescending

perspective is everything, what you thought is doing "so much", maybe is seen as so little by someone else and why you got the result you have. if youre always on guard for the worst and dont trust anyone, then you are deeming them as bad and waiting for them to prove they are what you consider "right"

 

[Sagebee]

and that makes you condescending

perspective is everything, what you thought is doing "so much", maybe is seen as so little by someone else and why you got the result you have. if youre always on guard for the worst and dont trust anyone, then you are deeming them as bad and waiting for them to prove they are what you consider "right"

When I was younger and till now I would be hyper self reflective and try to understand why certain things go wrong, and as you get older you'll learn you could try to do all the right things and understand others perspective but you learn others don't care to do the same. And because of that you can only truly focus on you own actions and make sure that others aren't a detriment your inner and outter well being.

In life people aren't perfect so you got to learn to deal with their imperfections.

 

[Brady]

When I was younger and till now I would be hyper self reflective and try to understand why certain things go wrong, and as you get older you'll learn you could try to do all the right things and understand others perspective but you learn others don't care to do the same. And because of that you can only truly focus on you own actions and make sure that others aren't a detriment your inner and outter well being.

In life people aren't perfect so you got to learn to deal with their imperfections.

Exactly, we're not judging them as bad people, it's just that it's wrong to perceive them as anything good. It's better to see them as neutral and expect the opposite of what you might see as right from them.

Whereas you might think from their perspective before making a move, they won't do the same for you. It's important to remember that.

 

[kimb]

I'd like to change my eye color to light green. I'd look cute af. Plus I wish my feet were smaller, I hate when I can't find a shoe in a 10, and all they have are size 8s and 9s.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

When I was younger and till now I would be hyper self reflective and try to understand why certain things go wrong, and as you get older you'll learn you could try to do all the right things and understand others perspective but you learn others don't care to do the same. And because of that you can only truly focus on you own actions and make sure that others aren't a detriment your inner and outter well being.

In life people aren't perfect so you got to learn to deal with their imperfections.

not only is that condescending but also a generalization

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Exactly, we're not judging them as bad people, it's just that it's wrong to perceive them as anything good. It's better to see them as neutral and expect the opposite of what you might see as right from them.

Whereas you might think from their perspective before making a move, they won't do the same for you. It's important to remember that.

yeah because youve met everyone oh master of life who thinks hes special

 

[Brady]

yeah because youve met everyone oh master of life who thinks hes special

Cynicism doesn't equal arrogance. Not everyone is going to think about how you'll feel, and more often than not I've encountered that. Natural human survival instinct is to adapt, so I refuse to trust anyone until proven trust worthy. I don't want to be used up and thrown aside or tricked, those things are bad enough but the emotional pain of it is unnecessary if caution can help it.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Cynicism doesn't equal arrogance. Not everyone is going to think about how you'll feel, and more often than not I've encountered that. Natural human survival instinct is to adapt, so I refuse to trust anyone until proven trust worthy. I don't want to be used up and thrown aside or tricked, those things are bad enough but the emotional pain of it is unnecessary if caution can help it.

you agreed that, "you dont trust others to do the right thing". now youre generalizing others as cynicle using cyncial reasoning.

in my opinion youre not right, youre in the wrong thinking automatically that you cant trust anyone. i dont believe you are doing the right thing, get over it

 

[Sagebee]

not only is that condescending but also a generalization

Who am I being condescending to and which way, and what am I generalizing?

Your also missing the point of what I'm saying.

Maybe I am accidently being condescending so break it down for me because at the very least you feel I'm being condescending

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Who am I being condescending to and which way, and what am I generalizing?

Your also missing the point of what I'm saying.

Maybe I am accidently being condescending so break it down for me because at the very least you feel I'm being condescending

i already pointed that out, go back a page and read it till it makes sense to you. im not gonna keep reiterating my reasoning.

 

[Sagebee]

i already pointed that out, go back a page and read it till it makes sense to you. im not gonna keep reiterating my reasoning.

You literally told me if I don't see how I'm being that way I never will so your just leaving up to me to assume what you mean:lol

Honestly that's kind of a big accusation to put on someone and not even explain why I'm willing to hear you out but you got to explain it so I know it

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

You literally told me if I don't see how I'm being that way I never will so your just leaving up to me to assume what you mean:lol

Honestly that's kind of a big accusation to put on someone and not even explain why I'm willing to hear you out but you got to explain it so I know it

from the first response you were confused -_-

you said "you dont trust others to do the right thing", after i called you on it, suddenly the right thing became consideration but the same rule applies. you must find yourself to be more considerate than others, which is fail of you to expect that from anyone. nobody owes you anything and what one considers a considerate isnt universal. so everyone is suppose to cater to your idea of it, or somehow they are beneath you or in the wrong?

you generalize with statements like, "as I get older I realize people dont care about my perspective like I do theres", what? how can you say something like that unless you know every person, for all you know everyone could actually be doing that, are you a mind reader? its a very close minded perspective and a general assumption of those you meet

 

[Sagebee]

from the first response you were confused -_-

you said "you dont trust others to do the right thing", after i called you on it, suddenly the right thing became consideration but the same rule applies. you must find yourself to be more considerate than others, which is fail of you to expect that from anyone. nobody owes you anything and what one considers a considerate isnt universal. so everyone is suppose to cater to your idea of it, or somehow they are beneath you or in the wrong?

you generalize with statements like, "as I get older I realize people dont care about my perspective like I do theres", what? how can you say something like that unless you know every person, for all you know everyone could actually be doing that, are you a mind reader? its a very close minded perspective and a general assumption of those you meet

The thing is your super imposing your assumptions onto what I'm saying as if that's what came out my mouth and this why I think why your missing the point of what in saying. I never said no ones beneath me, I said in life you should focus on your actions and not allow what others do wrong negatively impact you in anyway even when it comes to doing good to others.

I'm simply saying I focus on me and I don't allow others ill actions to have a negative impact on me.

And your message of what you perceive is good is confusing it seems what your saying that you think i prejudge people as bad people and I just assume I'm the person in the right. I literally told you I try to hear others perspective to see if what they're saying has a legitamate point, and i don't prejudge who someone is i get to know the person and based on that is how close we become and type of relationship. And being courteous and considerate isn't an ambiguous concept and for those grey areas if which we don't know or do on accident I don't judge a person by, and I don't even just mean simple conduct but even thought process some people automatically assume they're right and aren't willing to hear others out or acknowledge anything they possibly did wrong.

Again I just focus on treating others right and if someone says that i did something wrong I'm willing to hear them out about it. Do I have a pessimistic view of people yes I do I view most people self centered and uncaring about true understanding if this makes me condescending I don't know it's just something I simply believe to be true that doesn't mean i don't try to give people a fair shot in getting to know them.

In a way it seems you either want me to assume others are perfect and think in each situation im wrong or oppositely think I assume I'm the right guy in all situations.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

im defending myself so others wont affect my mood

im not reading that tbh

if you feel you have to explain yourself with all of those paragraphs. youre probably actually not saying anything, i also didnt ask what you thought. youre the one asking me, i told you. so read it till it makes sense to you and try to consider the perspective like you do, instead of fighting it. but oh wait, you have all the answers, sorry

 

[Sagebee]

im not reading that tbh

if you feel you have to explain yourself with all of those paragraphs. youre probably actually not saying anything, i also didnt ask what you thought. youre the one asking me, i told you. so read it till it makes sense to you and try to consider the perspective like you do, instead of fighting it. but oh wait, you have all the answers, sorry

Lol your proving my point you assume yourself to be right and don't give me the courteousy to understand me then on top of that accuse me of something like I assume I'm right, for one I don't and secondly that's exactly what your doing assuming your right

And you wonder why I think most people aren't considerate:lol (this is a joke but you are being incourteous and ironically condescending and this is an example why I believe generally people are inconsiderate because there's no attempt to understand while I'm trying to put the effort to do so)

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Lol your proving my point you assume yourself to be right and don't give me the courteousy to understand me then on top of that accuse me of something like I assume I'm right, for one I don't and secondly that's exactly what your doing assuming your right

And you wonder why I think most people aren't considerate:lol (this is a joke but you are being incourteous and ironically condescending and this is an example why I believe generally people are inconsiderate because there's no attempt to understand while I'm trying to put the effort to do so)

again, what you consider considerate isnt the same for everyone. and im not gonna keep repeating myself till you understand, you havent shown once to understand my perspective actually. all youve been doing is arguing against it and being confused. if the majority of your conversations are like this, then it makes sense why you think people "dont consider you perspective", its more like they dont have the patience. you clearly think you know everything

 

[Sagebee]

again, what you consider considerate isnt the same for everyone. and im not gonna keep repeating myself till you understand, you havent shown once to understand my perspective actually. all youve been doing is arguing against it and being confused. if the majority of your conversations are like this, then it makes sense why you think people "dont consider you perspective", its more like they dont have the patience. you clearly think you know everything

Respectfully so far the conversations has been you accusing me of things me trying to understand why and address it you not responding to it and just telling me to accept it as fact and since I'm not blindly accepting what your saying even tho I'm legitimately trying to understand if I'm at fault.

In end of the day if you just want me to say I'm condescending even tho you made no real effort or logical explanation why from my perspective anyways, but I could do that even tho it would be ingenious and if I'm speaking honestly I would just be appeasing you

I don't see this being a fruitful discussion it's your choice if you care for their to be legitamate understanding but if not hope you have a good night

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Respectfully so far the conversations has been you accusing me of things me trying to understand why and address it you not responding to it and just telling me to accept it as fact and since I'm not blindly accepting what your saying even tho I'm legitimately trying to understand if I'm at fault.

In end of the day if you just want me to say I'm condescending even tho you made no real effort or logical explanation why from my perspective anyways, but I could do that even tho it would be ingenious and if I'm speaking honestly I would just be appeasing you

I don't see this being a fruitful discussion it's your choice if you care for their to be legitamate understanding but if not hope you have a good night

nobody owes you anything, you cant seem to get that. im saying it as clearly as i can and told you im not explaining it further, read it till it makes sense to you if it matters that much, how many times have i said that?

i also never asked what you thought, as i said. simply because its proven to not matter. im not saying accept what im telling you blindly, take the time to consider the perspective, youre actually not doing it if youre still confused after all the posts in this thread

and yeah i dont like talking to you. just maybe next time in a thread about what you wish to change, maybe not come in as the first post trying to coach someone else. how about posting what you would like to change about yourself, probably a hard question for you to grab grasp though

 

[Sagebee]

nobody owes you anything, you cant seem to get that. im saying it as clearly as i can and told you im not explaining it further, read it till it makes sense to you if it matters that much, how many times have i said that?

i also never asked what you thought, as i said. simply because its proven to not matter. im not saying accept what im telling you blindly, take the time to consider the perspective, youre actually not doing it if youre still confused after all the posts in this thread

and yeah i dont like talking to you. just maybe next time in a thread about what you wish to change, maybe not come in as the first post trying to coach someone else. how about posting what you would like to change about yourself, probably a hard question for you to grab grasp though

Okay well thanks for your perspective

I think this conversation became unnecessarily toxic, I'm going to consider what you said and hope you can do the same and hopefully we can have future civil discussion but if not then hope the best

 

[Brady]

nobody owes you anything, you cant seem to get that. im saying it as clearly as i can and told you im not explaining it further, read it till it makes sense to you if it matters that much, how many times have i said that?

i also never asked what you thought, as i said. simply because its proven to not matter. im not saying accept what im telling you blindly, take the time to consider the perspective, youre actually not doing it if youre still confused after all the posts in this thread

and yeah i dont like talking to you. just maybe next time in a thread about what you wish to change, maybe not come in as the first post trying to coach someone else. how about posting what you would like to change about yourself, probably a hard question for you to grab grasp though

To assume people will do the right thing is a generalization as well by your logic. Trusting people to do what's right is unwise and naive, regardless of how "condescending" it may seem. It doesn't mean I always do what's right, it just means you shouldn't get your hopes up and you should always do it yourself rather than rely on others.

If someone has proven themselves to be trustworthy, I'll trust them, until then there's no reason to assume someone will do what's right just based on the fact that it's right.