A full Kamui Obito solos Healthy Itachi

[TrollKing]

When did Itachi say he feared Obito? That time with Sasuke? Where he wanted to scare the shit out of him and make him think Itachi had even remotely a slight desire to get EMS and kill his brother? =D

I bet BenjerminGay(e) =D thinks this is exactly what it is =D

Easy way to say it since they both refuse to confront each other in a battle while obito had all Intel and itachi still thinking Tobi is lord madara the legend

 

[Mr SwizZz]

The bias is real. You think obito is weaker than itachi because hesa...wait he never said anything like that. He didn't even imply it.

Why kill someone that's helping the cause?
No one killed oro even though he left with valuable info.


I already exposed you're bias. Just take the L and keep it moving

Itachi was doing more damage to akatsuki(intel to konoha) than helping akatsuki. Way more.
Itachi had a reason to lie then, so they wouldnt kill Jiraiya. What reason would Obito have? And he didnt even "say" that, he thought about it. He didnt lie to Sasuke, he thought to himself.
That is story.

You are too simple minded.
Fact that Itachi was working for Konoha and killing Jiraiya would go against his orders and hence go against Konoha has to be taken into account as to why Itachi and Kisame "ran away" from him.

Why would Obito lie to himself when he admitted inferiority in his own thoughts?

See.
Person 1 said this.
Person 2 said this.
Therefore you are biased even tough Person 1 has a backstory and a reason to make that claim, whereas what Obito thought has no reason to be a lie.

Shhh.
Shush it my friend.
Storyline goes beyond you. You cannot comprehend it, stick to your simple minded approach, dont reply to me anymore.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

Easy way to say it since they both refuse to confront each other in a battle while obito had all Intel and itachi still thinking Tobi is lord madara the legend

Bro you think Itachi did not know who he is working for(in akatsuki)? Cmon bro. Lets be real.
He used the Madara story on Sasuke to scare him. Most of that story was bullshit and everbody knows it. Drop that dialog argument, its null.

Itachi refused to battle Obito because they were not his orders. He was supposed to join Akatsuki and get intel. Do you understand?
He was a spy and carried his missions. If Konoha said Itachi kill Obito, he would've went there and battle and kill Obito.
As long as Konoha didnt say so, he didnt do it. Simple.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Obito proven to be liar. No need to keep it if he can stomp itachi. And the promise is more like fan logic. It noted obito fear itachi while itachi feared Tobi(aka MADARA)

If itachi is helping capture tailed beasts why kill him off?

Riddle me this. If obito was sooooo threatened by itachi why didn't he use nagato(who's always been in his pocket) and kisame( another one who's always been in his pocket even b4 akatsuki days) to off him?
Heck even deidara would have helped out, and with the right incentive oro too.
Obito has no reason to kill a hard working member. Almost everyone in akatsuki had ulterior motives but weren't killed off cause they helped the cause. Why would itachi be different?

It still doesn't change itachi's lack of knowledge on kamui or all of obito's move set for that matter.
And he still has his ten minute izanagi to fall back on. Yet you think itachi can win? Lol

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Itachi was doing more damage to akatsuki(intel to konoha) than helping akatsuki. Way more.
Itachi had a reason to lie then, so they wouldnt kill Jiraiya. What reason would Obito have? And he didnt even "say" that, he thought about it. He didnt lie to Sasuke, he thought to himself.
That is story.

You are too simple minded.
Fact that Itachi was working for Konoha and killing Jiraiya would go against his orders and hence go against Konoha has to be taken into account as to why Itachi and Kisame "ran away" from him.

Why would Obito lie to himself when he admitted inferiority in his own thoughts?

See.
Person 1 said this.
Person 2 said this.
Therefore you are biased even tough Person 1 has a backstory and a reason to make that claim, whereas what Obito thought has no reason to be a lie.

Shhh.
Shush it my friend.
Storyline goes beyond you. You cannot comprehend it, stick to your simple minded approach, dont reply to me anymore.

What did itachi leak? Name 1 thing. Please.

When did obito admit inferiorty? I'd love to see that scan and not you bs interpretation.

 

[TrollKing]

Bro you think Itachi did not know who he is working for(in akatsuki)? Cmon bro. Lets be real.
He used the Madara story on Sasuke to scare him. Most of that story was bullshit and everbody knows it. Drop that dialog argument, its null.

Itachi refused to battle Obito because they were not his orders. He was supposed to join Akatsuki and get intel. Do you understand?
He was a spy and carried his missions. If Konoha said Itachi kill Obito, he would've went there and battle and kill Obito.
As long as Konoha didnt say so, he didnt do it. Simple.

Why you so harsh on me? I'm just trying to think like a nardo fan :dunno:

 

[Mr SwizZz]

Why you so harsh on me? I'm just trying to think like a nardo fan :dunno:

Mybad dude, but i despise when people cannot comprehend the story(or maybe they do) and yet choose to misinform others and use a null argument in a debate.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol. Funny enough we saw obito do the same with kabuto.
Kabuto cuts him a deal obito sees the manpower. He accepts.
He knows of kabuto's motives yet he lets it slide for the manpower. Itachi is no different.

 

[TrollKing]

Mybad dude, but i despise when people cannot comprehend the story(or maybe they do) and yet choose to misinform others and use a null argument in a debate.

Manga showed kakashi=>obito, but 90% people here believe obito stomp kakashi

 

[Mr SwizZz]

What did itachi leak? Name 1 thing. Please.

When did obito admit inferiorty? I'd love to see that scan and not you bs interpretation.

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Hiruzen's words.

Obito admitted Itachi could kill him. Posted scan a while ago, cbf to post it again.
I actually seen you arguing with me on it, now you are asking for it again?

Troll....

 

[Mr SwizZz]

Manga showed kakashi=>obito, but 90% people here believe obito stomp kakashi

Feel sorry for 90% of people here then =D

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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Hiruzen's words.

Obito admitted Itachi could kill him. Posted scan a while ago, cbf to post it again.
I actually seen you arguing with me on it, now you are asking for it again?

Troll....

No no. I didn't ask for his job. I asked for the info he leaked.

Obito said" id be dead if I didn't have my secrets"
That doesn't equal " I'm inferior"

Like I said a billion times. And like obito said (yet you somehow misinterpret it) itachi's lack of knowledge on kamui(like obito said(can't stress this enough)) is one the reasons he lives and itachi dies.


Fanboys these days.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Obito admitted Itachi could kill him. Posted scan a while ago, cbf to post it again.

like all fanboys you took it out of context. he said "if he knew everything aboout me he could kill me". he was talking about the surprise assasination attempt not a head to head battle.

welll then all itachi has left to easily defeat him is KA so itachi still wins

why didnt he beat him then? does he want the world to be destroyed?

Itachi sick > MS Obito.
Itachi healthy > Double MS Obito.

absurd.

Obito was scared of Itachi and only after he died, Obito started to approach Sasuke.(manga)

scared? is that why he let him inot all their meetings and trusted itachi with missions?

MS Kakashi >= MS Obito

how can kakashi fight izanagi

Plus, Itachi can use Susanoo, most skilled genjutsu user in NV, highly skilled in most aspects of combat.

land obito isnt skilled?

Obito has 1 MS but no Susanoo, Tsukuyomi, Way below Itachi in terms of intelligence.

itachi is a severely braindead illogical fool

Itachi can find a way to counter a jutsu(including Kamui) in few panels, whereas Obito cannot counter all Itachi's arsenal

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itachi wasted ten years of his life finding out nothing about obito of any use. obito watched itachi and knew everything sasuke could do before he did it for this reason. obito has answers for everything itachi has because he knows him so well.

Itachi has shown excellent Analytical abilities(can find a tactic to counter a jutsu in few panels). "Every jutsu has a weakness".

no he hasnt. that was one time and one time of slightly being intelligent doesnt mean your a fighting genius who defeats anything

If Minato could figure out about Kamui in such a short time, you think Itachi cant?

figurring out kamui isnt the problem. beating it is

i don't know dude itachi is mastermind he could easily find a count attack for Kamui

no he isnt and no he cant. he had 10 years to try and failed to

obito didnt attack leafs cuz itachi in the way.

obito didnt attack because it wasnt a priority. why waste manpower

Or use crow clones. Itachi is smarter than Minato

no he isnt. hes an illogical braindead fool who caused a world war through his stupidity

can find a way to find out about Obito's Kamui and thereon after he knows Obito's secrets, he can kill him.

except obito kills him long before that

Obito said so and that is why he hid the kamui from Itachi ^_^

obito said that the surprise amaterasu would have worked if itachi knew EVERYTHING ie izanagi

If he wants to teleport someone he needs to have a physical body present. At that point Itachi can just totsuka him GG.

lol why does he need to teleport itachi? he just needs to outlast him and stay phased.

Why didnt Obito try to make Sasuke "his" when Itachi was alive? Why did he have to wait until Itachi was gone? Why didnt he kill Itachi and approach Sasuke earlier?

because he needed the truth about itachi to be believed. ifitachi was still alive sasuke probably wouldnt have believed it

It proves Obito was scared of Itachi, if he wasnt he would just go ahead and do what he wanted,

how could he be scared when he has all of akasuki at his command? obito didnt kill itachi because having the manpower was handy

If he wasnt scared of Itachi, he would go ahead and take Sasuke, but he didnt.

obito has some honor. he didnt take sasuke to honor the agreement

Even with the Amaterasu afterwards, he wanted to make sure Sasuke doesnt get close to Obito.

THEN WHY WOULD HE TELL SASUKE MADARA HELPED HIM KILL EVERYONE? he clearly wanted sasuke near obito

Itachi healthy > Double MS Obito all day long

whats itachis counter to being warped

Remember, Obito will not be able to go to the other dimension as fast as it did few chapters ago ]

obitos phasing is almost instant

Obito admitted that he would have been dead if Itachi knew about his secret

secrets. ie izanagi, and kamui both. and he was talking about the surprise amaterasu not a head to head battle

Itachi is way too smart for Obito anyways

itachi is a collossal dumbas and one of the dumbest characters. saying "every jutsus has a weakness" is just obvious. but it doesnt mean you can exploit said weakness even if you do know it. obito outlasts itachi

with that in the back of his mind he can simply take out Obito..

how?

Itachi can make his Bunshins explode, if Obito takes the wrong one he'll be blown into pieces...

why would he take any of them. bijuudamas exploded in obitos face and he simply used his intangibility to tank it

Cry me an ocean just like Obito did when Rin died and tried to destroy the world because of it and then saw the light because a little pathetic kid called Naruto showed it to him...

yeah because itachis known for showing evil people how they were wrong right?

It literally said "most important thing was to make sasuke mine". You are saying it as if Sasuke is worthless.

and obito said later "its so i have a backup in case nagato dies". nagato was more important

He didnt attack the day after because he had no kyuubi and Minato fcuked him up pretty well the night before

and? he still was stronger than anyone else in konoha at the time and the seal isnt perfect

Itachi being smarter than Minato is not an opinion. Itachi had the mind of a hokage @ 7.

no he didnt. he has made hundreds of blunders and bad, selfish idiotic decisions. thats not a hokage mind.
hiruzen meant he thought like a hokage does in terms of putting the village first.

Where was it stated so about Minato? Minato has great analytic skills(e.g. Chidori) but Itachi is a level above him there.

based on nothing at all

Soon as Itachi finds out about his Kamui, obito is dead.

soon as itachi finds out about his kamui, itachi realises hitting him is impossible unless he goads obito to attack. so all obito has to do is not attack.

Obito himself said that Itachi could kill him and admits inferiority.

obito himself said he admits superiority and the only way itachi could find a way to stop him is with full intel and the element of surprise.

Itachi had the wisdom of a kage. I.e. putting the village before his pathetic clan.

which isnt wisdom as a wise man would put the good people before the village in general and root out the corrupt rather than just leaving it as it is

He was working as a spy for Konoha and everthing he did was for konoha.

he wasnt working as anything. he sat in akatsuki for 10 years doig nothing. if he had no way to report to konoha then his worth as a spy was nothing, irrelevant. and if he did report to konoa, he would say nothing because he knew nothing.
eveyrrhing he did was for himself and his own selfish agenda to manipulate others into thinking what he wants them to think. not preparing konoha for war.

Please tell me how the **** would killing Jiraiya, a Sannin and one of Konoha's arsenal, benefit Konoha in ANY way?

how does torturing kakashi into a coma benefit konoha?

Manga fact is Itachi was a spy working for Konoha.

when? what did he find out about akatsuki that was so worth the years he spent in there?

Killing one of Konoha's "elders" would mean Itachi goes against Konoha and is no longer part of the mission.

danzo was a murderous corrupt traitor. killing him is the protection of all others in the world. but itachi was JUST DANDY with him walking around.
going against konoha was proven when he tortured the innocent kakashi

He planned his whole death so Sasuke would get a power up

sasuek was evil at the time. so giving him more power is pointless suicide.

He didnt kill Obito because then he would have all other S-ranked ninjas on him.

he was GOING TO FUKIN DIE ANYWAY. what reason did he have to hold back anymore? killing obito ends the moons eye plan and the threat of him turning sasuke to his side. yet he refuses.

He was working as spy and giving intel to Konoha, that was his job, his mission, not to kill Obito.

so this mission > killing the worst threat since madara and stopping a potential catastrophic war....nice priorities he has.

Itachi wasnt Deidara. He wasn't just Akatuki's manpower. He was a spy, Obito knew that, shit was way deeper than that and Itachi has a more complex/twisted character than any other akatsuki member.

not really. itachi is a selfish evil twisted manipulator. simple.he wasnt a spy because konoha knew nothing they didnt have to figure out themselves.

Obito admitted he was inferiour to Itachi.

"last ditch effort to kill me". implying there were other attempts.

The next dozen pages proves why Itachi wanted to keep Sasuke away from Obito.
Obito was a mastermind and would corrupt Sasuke and turn him against Konoha, whereas Itachi wanted Sasuke to go back to Konoha

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itachi wanted sasuke to kill obito for his part in the massacre which is why he informed sauske thats what obito did.
and itachi is a mastermind who has ALREADY corrupted sasuke and turned him agaisnt the notions of peace and love. so yeah already done.
obito just changed the madness of sasuke's target to konoha and not itachi. not too hard to do

Itachi didnt want to kill him, his mission was to spy on them, not kill them. Those were his orders.

so hes just a yes-man? no intelligence, no thought processing, no "this is logical, to kill this guy before he hurts anyone else"?

It noted obito fear itachi while itachi feared Tobi(aka MADARA)

MS obito is not that far away from a weakened madara like itachi thinks he is.

When did Itachi say he feared Obito? That time with Sasuke? Where he wanted to scare the shit out of him and make him think Itachi had even remotely a slight desire to get EMS and kill his brothe

if itachi wanted sasuke to fear obito and to stay away, he wouldnt have told him that obito helped him kill the clan