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As I said before, obito wins, he has full knowledge on itachi's abilities due to zetsu recording the fight between sasuke and itachi.
 

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How so?
Both obito and kakashi have knowledge on his ms and standard techs while he has none.

Itachi has shown excellent Analytical abilities(can find a tactic to counter a jutsu in few panels). "Every jutsu has a weakness".
If Minato could figure out about Kamui in such a short time, you think Itachi cant?
 

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Itachi has shown excellent Analytical abilities(can find a tactic to counter a jutsu in few panels). "Every jutsu has a weakness".
If Minato could figure out about Kamui in such a short time, you think Itachi cant?

Except where Minato can escape Kamui with FTG, Itachi cannot.
 

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i don't know dude itachi is mastermind he could easily find a count attack for Kamui
 

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Itachi has shown excellent Analytical abilities(can find a tactic to counter a jutsu in few panels). "Every jutsu has a weakness".
If Minato could figure out about Kamui in such a short time, you think Itachi cant?

It took minato 3 tries to figure out kamui and he always had ftg as the escape route.
Itachi has no escape route.
 

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How so?
Both obito and kakashi have knowledge on his ms and standard techs while he has none.

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Manga facts: obito didnt attack leafs cuz itachi in the way. To come up with whatever "logic" obito stomp itachi that manga never point out in manga is fanlogic. You you can post just one scan obito almost kill itachi, then I might try to think hard that obito>>>itachi
 

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till u guys come up with a way for obito to over come Ka itachi still wins
 

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Manga facts: obito didnt attack leafs cuz itachi in the way. To come up with whatever "logic" obito stomp itachi that manga never point out in manga is fanlogic. You you can post just one scan obito almost kill itachi, then I might try to think hard that obito>>>itachi

Someone seems butthurt. the agreement was help me take out the uchiha clan and in return don't attack the village. Obito honored his agreement.
I don't see how this verbal exchange helps itachi beat him
 

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It took minato 3 tries to figure out kamui and he always had ftg as the escape route.
Itachi has no escape route.

Obito's Kamui is not like Kakashi's. If he wants to teleport someone he needs to have a physical body present. At that point Itachi can just totsuka him GG.

Or use crow clones. Itachi is smarter than Minato and can find a way to find out about Obito's Kamui and thereon after he knows Obito's secrets, he can kill him.

Obito said so and that is why he hid the kamui from Itachi ^_^
 

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This is not necessary , however I thanked the thread . Obito has always been stronger than Itachi .
 
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lol if i cared and knew how to i would put this in my sig.

thats all you and op and others do, but yet once someone points out actual manga facts and uses them.

you and ppl like op, troll and post trash.

Thats what is really getting old and pathetic


op- once again did anyone even read op crap?

obito himself said itachi would have killed him. yet you ppl are trying to say thats wrong and obito was wrong.

mods need to start banning ppl for this type of crap. it doesnt promote this site at all and only creates a breeding ground for trolls

lol, I don't really consider something someone said as being a fact because unless they had an actual fight you don't really know the outcome. Itachi did say that if he and Kisame were to fight Jiraiya they would die, didn't he? I can hardly believe that would happen.

However, I do believe Obito with 1 MS would lose to Itachi, but 2 MS with full kamui would definitely defeat Itachi..

But if we were to be speaking hypothetically.. if Itachi had implanted Shisui's eye and was able to use Shisui's MS ability then I would say Itachi wins.
 

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Obito's Kamui is not like Kakashi's. If he wants to teleport someone he needs to have a physical body present. At that point Itachi can just totsuka him GG.

Or use crow clones. Itachi is smarter than Minato and can find a way to find out about Obito's Kamui and thereon after he knows Obito's secrets, he can kill him.

Obito said so and that is why he hid the kamui from Itachi ^_^

Itachi still doesn't know that 1 touch= death.
Nor does he know about obito's intangibility or the secret behind it.

Touska gg? Lol obito phases through it. And itachi thinks he's just slipping through attacks.

Obito disposes of clones easily. And him being"smarter than minato" is merely your opinion. Doesn't change the fact that without kakashi's kamui nobody would know that there's a pocket dimension to begin with bar the ppl that get trapped and die there.

Minato, sasuke,sakura,fuu,toutune, kakashi,konan even madara all came to the same conclusion that he can slip through attacks.
Only sakura, minato,fuu,toutune and kakashi figured out that he has to be tangible to attack and only kakashi figured out that his body parts go to the pocket dimension. Itachi isn't figuring out jack sh¡t before he gets warped.

Obito never said itachi was stronger than him. That's just your interpretation.
 

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Someone seems butthurt. the agreement was help me take out the uchiha clan and in return don't attack the village. Obito honored his agreement.
I don't see how this verbal exchange helps itachi beat him

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Why didnt Obito try to make Sasuke "his" when Itachi was alive? Why did he have to wait until Itachi was gone? Why didnt he kill Itachi and approach Sasuke earlier?

Your argument proves nothing.
It proves Obito was scared of Itachi, if he wasnt he would just go ahead and do what he wanted, but he had to do what Itachi ordered, not attack the village. If he wasnt scared of Itachi, he would go ahead and take Sasuke, but he didnt.
He knew Itachi never wanted Sasuke to roll with akatsuki and Obito knew that.
If he approached Sasuke, Itachi would jump in and kill Obito.
Even with the Amaterasu afterwards, he wanted to make sure Sasuke doesnt get close to Obito.

Itachi healthy > Double MS Obito all day long

Remember, Obito will not be able to go to the other dimension as fast as it did few chapters ago vs God Madara.

Kakashi had to teleport Obito also. Obito will not be able to do that, he can only use right eye to teleport/phase himself and left eye to teleport other people.

Only reason Obito's teleportation worked so fast is because Kakashi teleported him, and Obito teleported himself at the same time.
But if Obito has both eyes, there will be no one to help him teleport, so no, his Kamui will not be "twice as fast", it would be exactly the same as it is now because Kakashi's eye has different abilities.
 
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As we have seen, A full Kamui is faster than Rikudo Madara's attacks, which were faster than Kamui.
Kamui with one eye itself is a insanely fast jutsu as we seen when Obito almost instantly warped Sasuke in mid Dust release, which is also rather fast.

if he can move at speeds faster than Madara' spheres, then it can be said that he would Kamui so fast, Itachi wouldnt even notice, or even possibly Kamui snipe Itachi. Since Obito is proficient with his Kamui, it is safe to say he would be with both. It wouldnt have to be a vital hit, could be an arm,leg, part of torso..And with his senju DNA, which further boosts Kamui's power...damn.

Amaterasu holds no merit against Obito, Tostuka can be evaded by Kamui, Can run straight through Yata Shield, Obito's firestyle stomps Itachi's. Itachi's ONLY hope of victory is his MS genjutsu, Tsukoyomi. But as we seen MS overuse in a battle can lead to strain, and exhaustion as we saw with Sasuke. Obito isnt exhausting with Senju DNA.

Also, Obito has full intel on Itachi, whereas Itachi has NONE on Obito. Itachi wouldnt be able to comprehend Kamui, and would be thinking the same thing everyone else did, that Obito somehow "slips" through. Kakashi was only able to make that connectiong cuz he too has Kamui

You obviously lack attention at home, Itachi solo's any version of Obito.

Healthy Itachi > Obito anyday
Sick Itachi > Obito anyday

Obito admitted that he would have been dead if Itachi knew about his secret and Itachi is way too smart for Obito anyways, people think that Kamui is the best technique in the Narutoverse well here's a little quote from Itachi "Every Jutsu has a weakness'' with that in the back of his mind he can simply take out Obito..

Itachi can make his Bunshins explode, if Obito takes the wrong one he'll be blown into pieces...

Cry me an ocean just like Obito did when Rin died and tried to destroy the world because of it and then saw the light because a little pathetic kid called Naruto showed it to him...
 
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Why didnt Obito try to make Sasuke "his" when Itachi was alive? Why did he have to wait until Itachi was gone? Why didnt he kill Itachi and approach Sasuke earlier?

Your argument proves nothing.
It proves Obito was scared of Itachi, if he wasnt he would just go ahead and do what he wanted, but he had to do what Itachi ordered, not attack the village. If he wasnt scared of Itachi, he would go ahead and take Sasuke, but he didnt.
He knew Itachi never wanted Sasuke to roll with akatsuki and Obito knew that.
If he approached Sasuke, Itachi would jump in and kill Obito.
Even with the Amaterasu afterwards, he wanted to make sure Sasuke doesnt get close to Obito.

Itachi healthy > Double MS Obito all day long

Remember, Obito will not be able to go to the other dimension as fast as it did few chapters ago vs God Madara.

Kakashi had to teleport Obito also. Obito will not be able to do that, he can only use left eye to teleport/phase himself and right eye to teleport other people.

Only reason Obito's teleportation worked so fast is because Kakashi teleported him, and Obito teleported himself at the same time.
But if Obito has both eyes, there will be no one to help him teleport, so no, his Kamui will not be "twice as fast", it would be exactly the same as it is now.

Why didn't obito attack the leaf village the day after minato and kushina died? Nobody could stop him? Right?

You make it seem as if obito didn't run akatsuki. If he wanted itachi dead.... itachi would be dead. Pain is more than enough.

See where speculating gets you?

Sasuke was never his goal. Last I checked the purpose of akasuki is collecting the tailed beasts, not uchiha brats.
Sasuke only served as a replacement of itachi. They needed manpower.

Everything else you wrote was garbage.
Obito already successfully phased through one of maddy's attacks.
 

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Why didn't obito attack the leaf village the day after minato and kushina died? Nobody could stop him? Right?

You make it seem as if obito didn't run akatsuki. If he wanted itachi dead.... itachi would be dead. Pain is more than enough.

See where speculating gets you?

Sasuke was never his goal. Last I checked the purpose of akasuki is collecting the tailed beasts, not uchiha brats.
Sasuke only served as a replacement of itachi. They needed manpower.

Everything else you wrote was garbage.
Obito already successfully phased through one of maddy's attacks.

It literally said "most important thing was to make sasuke mine". You are saying it as if Sasuke is worthless.

He didnt attack the day after because he had no kyuubi and Minato fcuked him up pretty well the night before =D

Itachi being smarter than Minato is not an opinion. Itachi had the mind of a hokage @ 7. Where was it stated so about Minato? Minato has great analytic skills(e.g. Chidori) but Itachi is a level above him there.

"Pain is more than enough". GTFO


Im done here.

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Soon as Itachi finds out about his Kamui, obito is dead.

Obito himself said that Itachi could kill him and admits inferiority.

And people here say Obito > Itachi
=D

I guess your opinion is stronger than Kishi's. Right? =D
 
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