A full Kamui Obito solos Healthy Itachi

[Bogard]

A defeated dog "He is not worthy or capable..." right after stating "madara[obito] formed the akatsuki. madara[obito] unleashed kyuubi on the village and got smacked by minato".
Manga panda's translation says "A shell of his former strength who's no longer worthy of ...".[

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In other words, the madara he knows[obito] doesn't live up to the hype of the madara's he's read of [the legend].

Madara losing to hashirama is a completely different incident in a different time span. Even obito says itachi could defeat him. Anyway, this is a thread with itachi in it, I'm not surprised you're backing obito.

Read the page before that:

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He was explaining Madara's loss against Hashirama. On the following page, he add the loss against Minato

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Notice he even says again

Since he lost against Hashirama, then later against Minato, it's for that reason he called him like that. But i don't count on you to understand such a simple thing anyway. Like i've said, whatever you say dude. I already gave my explanation on the matter. It's up to you to believe what you want. It's a Itachi thread after all, so nothing surprising to see you crying out loud like a kid against anyone who argues against him

 

[To Whatever]

A Rock slide solo'd Obito neg diff.

I'm positive Itachi stands a chance, especially if he Izanami's him or use his haxgenjustu

But he'd have to be quick because he runs the risk of being sniped to death.

 

[itachiuchiha21]

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[Waltz]

Hmm...

Both had great respect for one another, though Itachi's 'respect' stemmed from the fact that, like many he thought Obito was Madara. On the other hand, Obito knew what Itachi was capable of and kept a few secrets [kamui] from Itachi that would prevent him from killing him. Obito's kamui could be hailed the most abstract of Mangekyo techniques but even so it is stalemated by Itachi's intellectual prowess. According to the Zetsu, Itachi was far below his actual potential and was suffering from ailments during his battle with Sasuke. Even though this is the case I would still give this Matchup to Obito as, in the past he devised means to kill Obito but failed because he was illegible of Kamui and it's working's. ​

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[Haizaki]

Obito smacks him

 

[To Whatever]

The only reason Obito is alive is because of plot, in fact, he should of died here:

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We all know Obito's weakness are large boulders.

 

[Boston Rob]

Itachi is more skilled, smarter, he already proved that he doesnt need to fight with his full power to beat his oponents.
Plus he called Obito - pathetic and Obito himself said he would lose against Itachi cuz hes more skilled and smarter, again

 

[itachi uchiha fiance]

no itachi has still upper hand

 

[madvictory]

Any obito (except Pre sharingan obito) is > itachi.

Eh...
Itachi > Kakashi > Obito

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

But obito admitted himself, if itachi new all his secrets he would kill him and I don't mean try.

he meant in the situation that he was in, ie getting hit by a surprise amaterasu attempt in a non battle environment.

Itachi > Kakashi > Obito

how when obto is vastly superior to both in every possible way and aspect?

obito himself said itachi would have killed him. yet you ppl are trying to say thats wrong and obito was wrong.

because he wasnt talking about a face to face battle, but rather the amaterasu trap.and only if itachi knew about izanagi. well he doesnt so obito tanks it

kakashi and co had no intel on obito either while he had full intel yet he lost.

...YES THEY DID. the first thing gai said was "do you know how to fight him? dont use big attacks, use distractions and aim for when hes solid". then kakashi explained the full mechanics of obitos kamui due to using his own eye to figure it out.
itachi cannot figure out both izanagi and kamui and expect that to mean he wins. obito said knowing the trick doesnt mean you win.

. Overall itachi is clearly more skilled in every aspect yet yall deny it

because what you said is a lie and obito is more skiled in every aspect, faster, stronger and more hax.

Minato and Kakashi figured it out along with Madara. So what is stopping Itachi if he didn't already know?

all minato and madara know is "obito can only attack when solid". even fu and torune knew that.

Itachi is more skilled,

how?

We both know itachi wanted to make sure sasuke took him serious

We both know itachi wanted to test/push sasuke to his limit.

We both saw the manga scan and saw obito hide kamui from itachi while he was alive.

We both saw the manga scan of obito admitting being inferior to sick MS itachi, which supports above.

dont join the troll wagon.

wrong wrong and wrong.
itachi has no motivation to lie to sauske about that aspect of who he knew as madara.
we know that itachi pushing sasuke has nothing to do with talking bullshit and lying to him for no reason. informing sasuke that madaras weak would encourage sauske to rush off and try to kill him which results in obito raping sasuke.
obito didnt hide kamui lol. even fu and torune know that obito cant attack when phased. its not some elaborate jutsu.
obito said nothing about being weaker than anyone. only that itachi may have been able to assasinate him with full intel

-hide his kamui from itachi
-Hide his appearence, but failed
-admitt that itachi could kill him, if he knew his secerts"
-Waited till itachi died to evade and care out his plans

so you admit that the only way itachi can win is with full intel then?
obito needed itachi dead to recruit sasuke. other than moons eye plan nothing was more important to obito

- "Madara[obito] is a defeated dog unworthy of the uchiha name". Implying the madara he knows is shit weak.

calling someone a bitter and defeated loser psychologically says nothing of his powers phsyically. in that same speech he called madara immortal

The fact that obito had to cover his tracks and secrets from a konaha spy doesn't mean anything to you?

he didnt have to do anything. he was hiding himself from the entire akatsuki not just itachi. and obito isnt the type to blab out his powers to others. he never has. so what reason does he have to blab his powers to itachi

Itachi is a spy who can feed information to the leaf,

no he isnt. and no he he didnt. konoha was fukin clueless and knew nothing that they didnt have to find out themselves

Even obito says itachi could defeat him

and right before that says "if he knew everything about me" which he doesnt so itachi cant win

smarter

itachi is a braindead ignorant fool who helped kill half the planet

he already proved that he doesnt need to fight with his full power to beat his oponents.

he already proved he is stupid in battle and rushes into close combat, meaning he would be easily stomped by Obito

Obito himself said he would lose against Itachi

no he didnt. he never said this. when your in a debate you cant just lie and make shit up. when you lie you make yourself out to be very stupid and ignorant

 

[Tennis Robot]

I've always wondered what the Kamui Sharingan Susanoo would be like. Since Kamui is so different from the other mangekyo techniques by nature I would expect it to be...interesting

 

[itachiuchiha21]

yata says hello

 

[BraveStorm]

then why after all that did obito

-hide his kamui from itachi
-Hide his appearence, but failed
-admitt that itachi could kill him, if he knew his secerts"
-Waited till itachi died to evade and care out his plans


you kids can say obito is stronger all you want, that doesnt mean he wins.

manga proves what im saying and i wont repeate myself


MS itachi> MS obito

manga fact. all other assumptions and theories are irrelvent

He wasn't scared of Itachi, they made a deal. Obito has the whole akatsuki under his command, if he wanted they could hunt Itachi any day. Why kill a skilled partner instead of using him for his own good?

MS Obito > Itachi, any day.

 

[xxSAGExx]

As we have seen, A full Kamui is faster than Rikudo Madara's attacks, which were faster than Kamui.
Kamui with one eye itself is a insanely fast jutsu as we seen when Obito almost instantly warped Sasuke in mid Dust release, which is also rather fast.

if he can move at speeds faster than Madara' spheres, then it can be said that he would Kamui so fast, Itachi wouldnt even notice, or even possibly Kamui snipe Itachi. Since Obito is proficient with his Kamui, it is safe to say he would be with both. It wouldnt have to be a vital hit, could be an arm,leg, part of torso..And with his senju DNA, which further boosts Kamui's power...damn.

Amaterasu holds no merit against Obito, Tostuka can be evaded by Kamui, Can run straight through Yata Shield, Obito's firestyle stomps Itachi's. Itachi's ONLY hope of victory is his MS genjutsu, Tsukoyomi. But as we seen MS overuse in a battle can lead to strain, and exhaustion as we saw with Sasuke. Obito isnt exhausting with Senju DNA.

Also, Obito has full intel on Itachi, whereas Itachi has NONE on Obito. Itachi wouldnt be able to comprehend Kamui, and would be thinking the same thing everyone else did, that Obito somehow "slips" through. Kakashi was only able to make that connectiong cuz he too has Kamui

I think 1 MS Obito is too much for Itachi. Obito said if Itachi knew his secrets, that he would be dead yet people seem to forget the fact that knowing a ninja's jutsus/powers will allow the enemy to create a strategy for fighting that ninja. That's what pretty much all Uchihas do, Sasuke used his Sharingan to find out Deidara's weakness being lightning and he won. Obito wouldn't lose straight up, we've seen what Obito could do. Obito trained Itachi, so he would know a ton about Itachi; Itachi called Madara his teacher and it was Obito who he thought was Madara.

Double mangekyou obito is OP. But obito admitted himself, if itachi new all his secrets he would kill him and I don't mean try.

And it was Itachi who admitted Madara (Tobi) was too strong while talking to Sasuke, he never knew of Tobi being anyone else but Madara. Know the enemies secret/power/jutsus is how you win, Sasuke with Deidara is prime example when Deidara had more power.

Full power MS Itachi beats MS Obito mid diff at best

Not really, Itachi has no info on Kamui, Senju DNA or that MS Obito has a 2nd Sharingan under his mask to use Izanagi. Itachi himself called Madara (Tobi) his teacher who was too strong when he was talking to Sasuke in their fight. And what's a full powered Itachi? If you mean a healthy one then the only know healthy Itachi is the 13 year old on which became Obito's Student. Only person to even see how Kamui works right away was Minato, Kakashi and Sasuke didn't know how it work when they first saw it in action. Kakashi needed the help of Naruto, Gai and Bee to even test his guess after noticing a few things and Kakashi has keen analyzing skills.

lol if i cared and knew how to i would put this in my sig.

thats all you and op and others do, but yet once someone points out actual manga facts and uses them.

you and ppl like op, troll and post trash.


Thats what is really getting old and pathetic


op- once again did anyone even read op crap?

obito himself said itachi would have killed him. yet you ppl are trying to say thats wrong and obito was wrong.

mods need to start banning ppl for this type of crap. it doesnt promote this site at all and only creates a breeding ground for trolls

You seem to forget the fact that knowing a ninjas power/abilities/jutsus will allow another ninja to come up with strategies for fighting/countering those powers right? Take a look at Sasuke vs Deidara fight, he used the sharingan to see that Deidara used doton which is weak to raton and then he tested and after that he was able to counter all of Deidara's bombs with his lightning (except the last one that he used Manda to escape from). Itachi also said he couldn't be Madara who was Obito so Itachi words support what I'm saying. Only person to figure out Kamui in seconds was Minato, Sasuke and Kakashi, who both have great strategy and analyzing skills, couldn't do and it took Naruto, Gai and Bee's help for Kakashi to finally figure it out in the war.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

welll then all itachi has left to easily defeat him is KA so itachi still wins

 

[Bronze]

Only Madara can beat full Kamui Obito.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

All these threads vs Itachi...i swear there are hundreds of ppl in Narutoverse yet they always choose Itachi =D

No.
Itachi sick > MS Obito.
Itachi healthy > Double MS Obito.

Obito was scared of Itachi and only after he died, Obito started to approach Sasuke.(manga)

Itachi was on par with Nagato and Obito was below both of them. Period.

MS Kakashi >= MS Obito

Plus, Itachi can use Susanoo, most skilled genjutsu user in NV, highly skilled in most aspects of combat.
Obito has 1 MS but no Susanoo, Tsukuyomi, Way below Itachi in terms of intelligence.
Itachi can find a way to counter a jutsu(including Kamui) in few panels, whereas Obito cannot counter all Itachi's arsenal.

Itachi sick > MS Obito.
Itachi healthy > Double MS Obito.

And one thing about Double Kamui. Obito can teleport himself, and Kakashi's kamui can teleport objects.
Reason Obito could teleport into that dimension was because Kakashi teleported him.

But MS Eyes have different abilities, Obito needs someone to Kamui him into that dimension, otherwise he can only use his Right eye to teleport himself, he cant use the left to teleport himself but other objects/people. I think =D

 

[narutokage99]

Kakashi's kamui is largely enough, only trolls and fanboy don't want to give up manga facts even when itachi has no knowledge and no counter.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Any kamui user> itachi.
He knows nothing about the tech and by the time he even begins to comprehend what's going on its to late.

Ms obito>itachi
Ms lakashi>itachi
Double ms obito> itachi
Double ms kakashi> itachi.

 

[TrollKing]

Any kamui user> itachi.
He knows nothing about the tech and by the time he even begins to comprehend what's going on its to late.

Ms obito>itachi
Ms lakashi>itachi
Double ms obito> itachi
Double ms kakashi> itachi.

Fanlogic at its finest solo kishi =D