[Discussion] A Couple of things (spoilers included from chapter 903)

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Zoro vs Sanji (spoilers included from chapter 903)

Ok so we see that the crew escaped and Sanji's bounty is currently higher then Zoro's (first time this has ever happened in the story).

Now That got me thinking about the whole Ussopp merry situation. How Zoro was acting when sanji left is kind of similar to that of when ussop was leaving the crew as well.

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Zoro is literally talking so much shit about sanji. It's as if it was not nami and choppers fault sanji had to go with Capone (if you do not know what I am referring to please reread the chapter when sanji left).

Now they could have put sanji's bounty anywhere 270 mill 250 hell even 300. However, oda decided to make it slightly higher then Zoro's. Oda also makes zoro talk so bad about sanji so much to the point that it makes me feel that they will fight.

Zoro will pull the honor like card and Sanji will accept his challenge (because of thier rivalry and just something to prove since post tijmeskip) and they may fight once the straw hats are reunited (what do you guys think about this)

Also should be noted Sanji was given a raid suit from his brother.


Another thing (as a doffy fanboy despite him being a relic) I am curious to see if his bounty increased after the whole dressrosa incident

lastly, if the two did fight what do you think will happen to the crew if that happens.

I mean you have Zoro and his pride (once his mind is set not even Luffy can change it. Case and point ussop)

Nami and Chopper are sole to blame because they went to find Sanji (referring to back on the elephant) even when sanji told them to stay put. They managed to get held up at gun point due to this sanji left with capone. So they may think that they are to blame for all this in fighting within the crew.

How do you think the others will react.

I feel brook name and chopper will side with Sanji (because they seen what happened in whole cake island)

robin I am not so sure however, Ive always thought robin and zoro had a very interesting relationship. then again the whole cp9 arc her and sanji had some real moments so idk who she would choose.

Franky honestly would prob want to do upgrades with the raid suit

Also, Luffy's bounty has tripled in size so theres that lmfao

I also feel like if the fight does happen (in the spoilers it states that sanji does not like the raid suit and is about to throw it away however luffy and chopper stops him from doing so) I feel that once its over Zoro and Sanji will have a heart to heart (potentially more back history on zoro.... I really want to see more of zoro back history) about weapons and family. He will somehow convince Sanji to use the suit (example he can do so by making him realize that the weapon does not make the man its the man who is using it that makes the weapon shine. or to protect his nakama idk )


so yeah sorry for rambling but do you guys think this might happen if so or if not give your thoughts!
 
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Oooh, interesting point... I like it. I don't know the validity of these new spoilers, but I like your thoughts on A. How Zoro would take that bounty increase B. His reaction to Sanji just joining back the crew willy nilly and C. The offer to duel him.

All very interesting thoughts.
 

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sounds plausible.

lol can't believe i read that rambling wall of text.....it was a good read.
sorry ... Ill try to seperate it more.. but thank you for the response

Oooh, interesting point... I like it. I don't know the validity of these new spoilers, but I like your thoughts on A. How Zoro would take that bounty increase B. His reaction to Sanji just joining back the crew willy nilly and C. The offer to duel him.

All very interesting thoughts.
orojackson translated it ... one of my youtubers blacklegsanji reported it lol
 
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Ok so we see that the crew escaped and Sanji's bounty is currently higher then Zoro's (first time this has ever happened in the story). Now That got me thinking about the whole Ussopp merry situation. How Zoro was acting when sanji left is kind of similar to that of when ussop was leaving the crew as well.

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Zoro is literally talking so much shit as if it was not nami and choppers fault sanji had to go with Capone (if you do not know what I am referring to please reread the chapter when sanji left). Now they could have put sanji's bounty anywhere 270 mill 250 hell even 300 however oda decided to make it slightly higher then Zoro's and he makes zoro talk so bad about sanji makes me feel that they will fight. Zoro will pull the honor like card
Sanji will accept his challenge (because of thier rivalry and just something to prove since post tijmeskip) and they may fight once the straw hats are reunited (what do you guys think about this)

Also should be noted sanji was given a raid suit from his brother.


Another thing (as a doffy fanboy despite him being a relic) I am curious to see if his bounty increased after the whole dressrosa incident

lastly if the two did fight what do you think will happen to the crew if that happens.

I mean you have zoro and his pride (once his mind is set not even luffy can change it. Case and point ussop)
Nami and Chopper are soley to blame because they went to find sanji (referring to back on the elephant) even when sanji told them to stay put. They managed to get held up at gun point due to this sanji left with capone. So they may think that they are to blame for all this in fighting within the crew.

How do you think the others will react.

I feel brook nami and chopper will side with sanji (because they seen what happened in whole cake island)

robin I am not so sure however, Ive always thought robin and zoro had a very interesting relationship. then again the whole cp9 arc her and sanji had some real moments so idk who she would choose.

Franky honestly would prob want to do upgrades with the raid suit

Also luffy's bounty has trippled in size so theres that lmfao

I also feel like if the fight does happen (in the spoilers it states that sanji does not like the raid suit and is about to throw it away however luffy and chopper stops him from doing so) I feel that once its over Zoro and Sanji will have a heart to heart (potentially more back history on zoro.... I really want to see more of zoro back history) about weapons and family. He will somehow convince Sanji to use the suit (example he can do so by making him realize that the weapon does not make the man its the man who is using it that makes the weapon shine. or to protect his nakama idk )


so yeah sorry for rambling but do you guys think this might happen if so or if not give your thoughts!
@Bold, I can definitely see that happening in the manga. And it plays along with Zoro's and Sanji's character. Good prediction.
 

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Sanji and Zoro throw insults and sneers towards each other at every chance they got. Even in this very chapter Sanji did it, so why is what Zoro said back at Zou any different?

Even if on the surface Sanji's situation looks similar to that of Usopp, inherently they are worlds apart. Usopp defied his captain aggressively in front of the entire crew for selfish reasons. Sanji however was confronted with an unexpected situation while Luffy was still on Dressrosa (or just leaving from it) and had to deal with it immediately. At this point in time Sanji didn't say either he was leaving the crew, he just gave some vague explanation he had to deal with some stuff for the time being.

Usopp created his own mess because he let his emotions get the better of him, Sanji had his mess thrown upon him. If Usopp hadn't done anything, nothing would have happened, but if Sanji hadn't done anything, there would have been severe consequences.

Only when Luffy fought Sanji on WCI it was somewhat reminiscent of when Usopp fought Luffy, but again this was because Sanji was thrown into a situation where he had little options or alternatives, while Usopp did everything of his own accord. Zoro wasn't there either to give his say on the matter.

It's kind of important to realize Sanji didn't do all of this because he wanted to, while Usopp brought everything upon himself.

When Usopp left the crew and Luffy wanted to get him back, it was one of the few moments Sanji agreed with Zoro that that's not something Luffy should be doing. You could feel the emotional tension in that scene and even the thought of the Strawhats breaking up started to creep up. That's not the case with scene posted in the OP. Rather than being emotional it's more intriguing as you know Sanji just didn't leave on a whim, you just couldn't really place what would made him leave, which was a forebode of what was to come.

On top of that the Strawhats were separated for two years, then came together and separated again during the Dresrossa arc. Currently they are at a peak of their momentum, so having them split up into two factions seems not only pointless, but completely counterproductive to the flow of the story. They are planning to take on Kaidou, but the crew is fragmented because of two egos?

Even if Zoro and Sanji have a bout, which they continuously have, most likely all the other Strawhats would just consider the both of them idiots. I don't know what Oda is planning with that raid suit, but there's something weird about the idea that Zoro has to make Sanji clear that without it, he's too weak? I also hope we learn more of Zoro's past, but why should his past be used as a means to make Sanji realize something about his past when he just had an entire arc for that?
 
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I understand what point you're getting at but at the rate things are going , i don't think theres time for a duel between zoro and sanji. Heck, its the new world and their up against Kaidou and samurai ; the fighting probably has already begun.
 

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Stopped reading at you though zoro would leave the crew. Go reread all of one piece for me. Remember who oda is for me, and never say something so stupid

ZORO WILL NEVER LEAVE HIS CAPTAIN OR CREW
 

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Stopped reading at you though zoro would leave the crew. Go reread all of one piece for me. Remember who oda is for me, and never say something so stupid

ZORO WILL NEVER LEAVE HIS CAPTAIN OR CREW
The chances of Akainu becoming a Straw Hat are much greater than Zoro leaving the crew.
 

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Stopped reading at you though zoro would leave the crew. Go reread all of one piece for me. Remember who oda is for me, and never say something so stupid

ZORO WILL NEVER LEAVE HIS CAPTAIN OR CREW
The chances of Akainu becoming a Straw Hat are much greater than Zoro leaving the crew.


He literally laid out conditions and the resulting consequence of him leaving the crew if they weren't met... Story wise, he probably won't. But it's quite clear that he would if he wanted / needed to.
 

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He literally laid out conditions and the resulting consequence of him leaving the crew if they weren't met... Story wise, he probably won't. But it's quite clear that he would if he wanted / needed to.
No you kinda just strengthened my argument by how seriously zoro takes someone leaving the crew. Nice try though, try again
 

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No you kinda just strengthened my argument by how seriously zoro takes someone leaving the crew. Nice try though, try again
How so? lol! He literally lays down the fact that he's prepared to leave the crew if necessary... How can you even argue the point still of "He would never?" What's with you suddenly being so self righteous all of sudden. Every post you think you're better than every one and end it with a condescending dig. It's becoming rather pathetic to read...
 

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How so? lol! He literally lays down the fact that he's prepared to leave the crew if necessary... How can you even argue the point still of "He would never?" What's with you suddenly being so self righteous all of sudden. Every post you think you're better than every one and end it with a condescending dig. It's becoming rather pathetic to read...
No I act like that when I state facts, you can find plenty of my opinions and where I even ask other members for help or advice on some areas of one piece. Zoro won't and will never leave the shs lmfao
 

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I feel like in the Wano arc Zoro is gonna challenge the Captain Luffy. So far during this whole arc Zoro has been 1 uping Luffy’s authority and right now this arc is gonna focus more on him in the straw hat crew. He and Franky are the only ones left to have their full history exposed.
 
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