A consistant theme within this manga..

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i wasn't referring to that. Referring to when she actually picked Naruto over Sasuke. After the Gokage summit, where she chose to try to kill Sasuke herself.

To sakura , Naruto > Sasuke, as far as who is right goes.
She chose Naruto over Sasuke? She lied to Naruto to go kill Sasuke for herself, thinking that she could erase the problem for everyone, but in reality it was selfish option seeing how she disregarded the opinion of someone who was going after him not only for her, but for himself also.

Not even going to get into the part where she could not kill him.

She has yelled twice at Sasuke when he put Naruto down insulting him.Sadly it's one of the very rare moments where she isn't a complete train wreck around him In part 2
Can you show them? I don't remember them sadly
 
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She chose Naruto over Sasuke? She lied to Naruto to go kill Sasuke for herself, thinking that she could erase the problem for everyone, but in reality it was selfish option seeing how she disregarded the opinion of someone who was going after him not only for her, but for himself also.

Not even going to get into the part where she could not kill him.
You really shouldn't try hard on making stuff up for characters.

selfish : lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

The entire reason why she chose to do it on her own was because of the consideration for Naruto.

At the end of the day she chose Naruto over Sasuke. She couldn't kill him.. cool cause she still liked him. Nonetheless she chose Naruto over Sasuke.

But choose to believe what you want.

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Sakura did not contribute much to the 'making' of Naruto.
Naruto was shaped by Jiraya the most. Bee also helped a lot. Emotionally Kushiana, Minato and Sasuke shaped him.

Hashirama was shaped by the wars and Madara the most. Mito's role only came towards the end.

Kushiana had some influence on Minato. You forgot Konan's influence on Naga to.

Obi to was shaped by Rin.

But there are many major characters which have not been shaped by women. They include Madara(don't count BZ, that is not the kind of influence you are trying to establish here), Sasuke Itachi, Orochimaru etc. So no its not a theme.
 
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You really shouldn't try hard on making stuff up for characters.

selfish : lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

The entire reason why she chose to do it on her own was because of the consideration for Naruto.

At the end of the day she chose Naruto over Sasuke. She couldn't kill him.. cool cause she still liked him. Nonetheless she chose Naruto over Sasuke.

But choose to believe what you want.
The consideration of Naruto yet she truly went there and explained it was for herself, not for Naruto. I should bring manga scans for these faps :bdpf:
 

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Sakura did not contribute much to the 'making' of Naruto.
Naruto was shaped by Jiraya the most. Bee also helped a lot. Emotionally Kushiana, Minato and Sasuke shaped him.

Hashirama was shaped by the wars and Madara the most. Mito's role only came towards the end.

Kushiana had some influence on Minato. You forgot Konan's influence on Naga to.

Obi to was shaped by Rin.

But there are many major characters which have not been shaped by women. They include Madara(don't count BZ, that is not the kind of influence you are trying to establish here), Sasuke Itachi, Orochimaru etc. So no its not a theme.
@Bold, uhhh no.

This is the man responsible for Naruto being who he is:

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You wanna prove me wrong? Your boy jiraiya didn't give a single f*ck about Naruto before Iruka saved him from despair.

The consideration of Naruto yet she truly went there and explained it was for herself, not for Naruto. I should bring manga scans for these faps :bdpf:
ahh we are going to that moment.

I guess Naruto was being selfish about saving Sasuke, since i'm sure you wouldn't want me to bring in the scans of him talking about only his bond with Sasuke. Didn't see him mention Sakura.

She wanted to see Sasuke, so she went there. Knocked out everyone else , so they wouldn't get hurt. Didn't want Naruto to burden it so she lied to him. Yet shes selfish, and only thing you can do to counter is post a scan where is in a depressed state, and claims shes here to see Sasuke. Yet our discussion, was never about her going to see Sasuke. It is why she want alone. Did she chose to go with sasuke? no. You should already stop arguing with this point there.

@Faps, ah how nice of you to bring the word, when all that is being stated is in the manga.
 
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Hah, not really. Here are the errors in your thread:

- Only half of the women you listed are the man's lover
- Only two of them are actually formidable in battle
- There are plenty of strong men in NV that didn't have a woman by their side
- All of the men were already strong without the ''women behind them'' really doing much
- One of the women is mischosen

Seriously, what's Sakura doing behind Naruto? I know Hinata wouldn't match the thread's theme, but I hope you know NH is canon and didn't just forget about her conveniently.
 
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You wanna prove me wrong? Your boy jiraiya didn't give a single f*ck about Naruto before Iruka saved him from despair.

Zabuza and Haku's influence was paramount to Naruto.

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He may have saved him from despair, but they gave him his ninja way.
 

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Hah, not really. Here are the errors in your thread:

- Only half of the women you listed are the man's lover
- Only two of them are actually formidable in battle
- There are plenty of strong men in NV that didn't have a woman by their side
- One of the women is mischosen

Seriously, what's Sakura doing behind Naruto? I know Hinata wouldn't match the thread's theme, but I hope you know NH is canon and didn't just forget about her conveniently.
its fapstafapsta, his thread cannot be made without suckura in them
 
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This thread and your point would be more credible if those women actually played any important role in the success of each of those guys. In Hashirama and Narutos case especially the girls were irrelevant.
 
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Hah, not really. Here are the errors in your thread:

- Only half of the women you listed are the man's lover
- Only two of them are actually formidable in battle
- There are plenty of strong men in NV that didn't have a woman by their side
- One of the women is mischosen

Seriously, what's Sakura doing behind Naruto? I know Hinata wouldn't match the thread's theme, but I hope you know NH is canon and didn't just forget about her conveniently.
I don't think Hinata would make sense in a thread comparable to woman on caliber of Tsunade because of her lack of feats of being a "strong woman", but what she did against Pain, would that not count as a trait of being a capable strong woman too? Despite her being thrashed like a rag doll in under a second, she at least tried.
 

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Zabuza and Haku's influence was paramount to Naruto.

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He may have saved him from despair, but they gave him his ninja way.
No they influenced his ninja way, they didn't give him his ninja way. Because of them he chose to be ninja not like them. But notice, how i never claimed nobody else motivated him.

However, at Naruto's core, there is the man called Iruka. The one who saved him. His older broskie Iruka. It is the teachings of iruka that are at his core.


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You know she only did it because Sai made her feel like a ****...


No they influenced his ninja way, they didn't give him his ninja way. Because of them he chose to be ninja not like them. But notice, how i never claimed nobody else motivated him.

However, at Naruto's core, there is the man called Iruka. The one who saved him. His older broskie Iruka.

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That was first time Naruto mentioned his ninja way and stuck with it to the end. At Naruto's core is a lot of people, not just Iruka. They didn't influence his ninja way because he didn't have any other convictions other than be hokage and be recognized by everyone.

Iruka's pretty special to him though and should be behind him in the OP's post. That or his mom.
 
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