A connection between the sage and elder toad

[rollin]

According to Madara there's two ways to interpret the tablet
one way it said is that god was split into light(yang)and shadow(yin)and that by having opposite forces cooperate together you can achieve true happines-peace through love

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itachi said something similar to that to sasuke

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the senju represent yang and the uchiha represent yin
when hashi and madara cooperated they made the village system and had peace

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until madara messed it up

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madara said there's another way to interpret the uchiha tablet and that cooperation is a silent fight
so he becomes both uchiha and senju in one,not cooperating together(awaken the rinnegan);what the sage didn't want

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he comes up with the infinite tsukuyomi;gather all the bijuus,revive the juubi;and use the juubi's power to boost his eyes to the ultimate level and reflect them off the moon;probably meant eating the fruit-peace through power

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the sage was split for a reason and didn't want anyone to have his powers by being both uchiha and senju-awakening the rinnegan
the fated battle between hashi and senju is the battle that madara became both senju and uchiha eventually making him awaken the rinnegan

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madara awakens the rinnegan and part of his plan is implanting them into nagato;have obito befriend nagato;gather the bijuus and use nagato's rinne tensei to revive madara

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But then the Elder toad has a prophecy, he has one about himself where he would meet a wondering boy and teach him the power of the frogs

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and that one day jiraiya will have a pupil who will bring a revolution by bringing peace or utterly destroy it and will write a book but he doesnt understand the reason why he would write a book

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one of jiraiya's pupils coincidentally happened to be nagato who was given the rinnegan by madara ,he awakened the rinnegan which made jiraiya train them in ninjutsu

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and then was inspired by nagato to write the book that the elder toad said he would

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naruto was named after the main character in the book

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and is the child of prophecy

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obito manipulates nagato into doing madara's plan

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but naruto uses the book to change nagato's mind and instead of using the rinne tensei on madara he resurrects konoha

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the toads say that the book was really the key to changing the world

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and nagato told naruto the book and you it's like someone set this all up or maybe this is the hand of the real god

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1.madara, becomes both senju and uchiha, awakens rinnegan and implants it into nagato
2.the toad has a prophecy that jiraiya will train a pupil and write a book,that pupil is nagato who was given the rinnegan and inspired jiraiya to write the book
3.naruto is named after the main character of the book and is the destined child

when the rinnegan awakened,could the sage have set up the prophecy,and be the reason behind naruto and the book?

The sage told the bijuus that they will be one again

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in order to summon the juubi's empty shell you need the rinnegan and it takes both uchiha and senju to control it

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so the sage knew that some day one of his descendants will be both uchiha and senju again

Madara makes a plan where he implants his rinnegan into nagato,coincidentally jiraiya trains nagato and writes the book naruto that the elder toad predicted
the sage didn't want both uchiha and senju to be one but cooperate together
could he have some kind of connection to the elder toad's prophecy

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

Okay, I'm trying to understand the point you're making, cus its definitely something I'm interested in...

But I cant quite see what argument youre trying to make...Could you summarize?

Are you saying the Sage and the Prophetic Toad knew eachother?

 

[Bindu45]

this was a good read but it is not fully developed

 

[sonamon]

messed up .=D

 

[TaBaYo]

This could have been a great theory about how Naruto and Sasuke have to work together if they want to defeat the juubi or win the war.

But you couldnt put them together very well although my understanding is that, the sage knew that one of his decendents would get the rinnegan and start to cause chaos so he tasked the elder sage to prophesy against such an outcome thus bringing Jiraiya and Naruto into the situation to twart the plans of Madara using Nagato.

Trim it up well and present it again......=D=D=D

 

[Hunty]

You need to sort your information out a little more.

I understand what you are saying though. This is very fascinating. Considering the tailed beasts were originally apart of the Sage, I'm guessing the Elder Toad could have been around that era. J-man and Naruto can summon Elder Toad - I'm going to say this is plausible - it would go great with the story line.