A>B>C logic and how it can be used

[Rayder]

I want to clear up some things about A>B>C logic in this thread.

For those who don't know what A>B>C logic is let me give you an example:
It the belief that because, lets say because Sasuke beat Deidera, Tsunade who is stronger than Sasuke at that time, would also beat Deidera.

This logic is flawed most of the time because a fight is based on many things and how well the opponent did in their past battles is not one of them. Fights are won because of location, elemental advantage, knowledge, preparation, mindset, starting distance and a whole load of other things which would vary depending on the combatants.

However A>B>C logic can be used when the combatants are very similar. For example Sasuke and Itachi. Sasuke is pretty much the improvement of Itachi since he doesn't need to worry about his stamina and can use his MS techniques to their full potential due to his EMS. He also has an extra element then its pretty certain the anyone that Itachi can beat, Sasuke can beat too.

But the thing is with this kind of reasoning is that its open to all sorts of interpretation even when the two fighters are similar. So I suggest that you should completely stay clear from this type of reasoning and if you have to use it, compare ninja who are similar.

What do you think ?

 

[Unbiased]

I want to clear up some things about A>B>C logic in this thread.

For those who don't know what A>B>C logic is let me give you an example:
It the belief that because, lets say because Sasuke beat Deidera, Tsunade who is stronger than Sasuke at that time, would also beat Deidera.

This logic is flawed most of the time because a fight is based on many things and how well the opponent did in their past battles is not one of them. Fights are won because of location, elemental advantage, knowledge, preparation, mindset, starting distance and a whole load of other things which would vary depending on the combatants.

However A>B>C logic can be used when the combatants are very similar. For example Sasuke and Itachi. Sasuke is pretty much the improvement of Itachi since he doesn't need to worry about his stamina and can use his MS techniques to their full potential due to his EMS. He also has an extra element then its pretty certain the anyone that Itachi can beat, Sasuke can beat too.

But the thing is with this kind of reasoning is that its open to all sorts of interpretation even when the two fighters are similar. So I suggest that you should completely stay clear from this type of reasoning and if you have to use it, compare ninja who are similar.

What do you think ?

1-Sasuke does not have Itachi's mastery over tsukuyomi

2-I agree A>B>C logic is stupid. Hiruzen > Hashirama but in no way would he survive in a fight against Edo Madara.

 

[-Logic-]

I think A > B > C logic only works when, A, B, and C, respectively, are drastically different in terms of how much power they possess; but even then, it can be flawed... For example:

Take A as Rikudo Sennin.

Take B as Itachi.

Take C as Moegi.

• A > B.
• B > C.

Therefore, A > C.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I dnt think sasuke is an improvement of itachi just because of EMS in fact u say how sasuke doesn't Hav to worry about stamina I disagree cuz how he fights now.. He spams the Justus he spam costs lots of chakra

But yeah I still feel A>B>C can't b applied in naruto


Itachi>= EMS sasuke

 

[Shodaime Swagkage]

I think you're right. The one who has plot on their side wins. When I came on NB, I wanted to make a tread proving that Gai is not necessarily stronger than Bee just because Kisame beat Bee and Gai beat Kisame. But that all in the past

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

ABC logic has to be very precise if used. The other day someone was saying, Hashirama > Madara > Nagato < Hashirama. That simply does not work...

 

[The Necromancer]

I understand what you're saying, and i agree with that. However itachi can beat far more people than sasuke, but sasuke can beat itachi 1v1. It all comes down to itachi's genjutsu which is a good example of how A>B>C can't be used, as Itachi could beat... let's say naruto for the sole reason that naruto can't counter his genjutsu, however even though sasuke could beat itachi currently, he could not beat naruto because his genjutsu is not up to par.

 

[Rayder]

I think A > B > C logic only works when, A, B, and C, respectively, are drastically different in terms of how much power they possess; but even then, it can be flawed... For example:

Take A as Rikudo Sennin.

Take B as Itachi.

Take C as Moegi.

• A > B.
• B > C.

Therefore, A > C.

Dat ava.
Somehow I can just tell it was Noddy that made it. xd

Yep I agree with you there.

I dnt think sasuke is an improvement of itachi just because of EMS in fact u say how sasuke doesn't Hav to worry about stamina I disagree cuz how he fights now.. He spams the Justus he spam costs lots of chakra

But yeah I still feel A>B>C can't b applied in naruto


Itachi>= EMS sasuke

Sasuke may not be better than Itachi in some specific areas like Genjutsu but overall, I think he would be the superior ninja.

I think you're right. The one who has plot on their side wins. When I came on NB, I wanted to make a tread proving that Gai is not necessarily stronger than Bee just because Kisame beat Bee and Gai beat Kisame. But that all in the past

Should have used the Gai > Kisame > B < Gai example that some people seem to believe. :sy:

 

[sG Taka]

For me that logic has too many exceptions.

A = Sasuke
B = Neji
C = Hashirama

A > B, but C > A and B < C. However, people can accommodate them to how they want, another flaw.

A = Hashirama
B = Sasuke
C = Neji

A > B, B > C and C > A.

Flawed.

 

[Champ]

Deidara would own Tsunade with c4, she can see them nano bombs.

 

[Invsblphntm]

Tsunade gets raped by Deidara low diff


Nice try, but your thread is a fail.

 

[Kazemaru]

god i hate math. but i agree that A>B>C logic can only be used with something so obvious it'd be pointless to even type it out.

 

[blazekev90]

no, just no. There is no way to use A>B>C logic as a whole. Now, you can use it when considering certain jutsu, such as; susanoo in general, element usage, etc. This being said A>B>C logic can only be used in comparing jutsu, no the individual as a whole.

Itachi would defeat an opponent under completely different circumstances than Sasuke, as Itachi's strength is genjutsu and his tools associated with his susanoo. However, you can use A>B>C logic in comparing their use of amaterasu

Another similar pair would be 3rd and 4th Raikage, very similar in certain techniques but their personal abilities is what sets them apart. A would not have an issue with amaterasu, but the 3rd would. However, you can compare their raiton armor.

Kabuto and Orochimaru are relatively the same, Kabuto has more perks, but Kabuto would have a harder time avoiding certain attacks such as C0, TBB, etc, while Orochiamru has the ability to use attack prevention technique.

There are many example, the point is there is always something that sets one apart from anther which is always the factor is match-ups.

 

[zinescience]

it's cool

 

[Midday]

I understand what you're saying, and i agree with that. However itachi can beat far more people than sasuke, but sasuke can beat itachi 1v1. It all comes down to itachi's genjutsu which is a good example of how A>B>C can't be used, as Itachi could beat... let's say naruto for the sole reason that naruto can't counter his genjutsu, however even though sasuke could beat itachi currently, he could not beat naruto because his genjutsu is not up to par.

Who can Itachi beat that Sasuke can't? No, Itachi can't take Naruto.

 

[Bogard]

Who can Itachi beat that Sasuke can't? No, Itachi can't take Naruto.

I believe Sasuke would have more difficulties to defeat Orochimaru(if he can) than Itachi. He can't even defeat Kabuto, but i can see Itachi winning. In Itachi's situation against Nagato, Sasuke would not have been able to accomplish what he did because he lacks Itachi's insight in battle. He also doesn't have a sealing techniques, so against Edos, Itachi is more suitable