A>B>C Logic always works, but has expections

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No. A>B>C logic almost NEVER works when it comes to the Narutoverse. There are a large multitude of unknown variables when it comes to characters, that you cannot use this kind of logic. For example, there is a very fine line between characters defeating characters and characters that NEED to defeat characters. For example: Naruto vs Pain. Anyone with common sense and logic would agree that Pain would have defeated Naruto, however because Naruto HAD to win the fight (other wise the show would have stopped there) many factors were placed to ensure Naruto won (Hinata, Kurama bursting, etc.).

Then theres the matter of characters intentionally loosing because of the circumstances. Examples include Itachi vs Sasuke (Itachi was dying anyway, so he CHOSE to die infront of Sasuke instead of killing him) and again, Naruto vs Pain (Pain needed Naruto alive, thus did not kill him when he had Naruto pinned down). The list is rather extensive in this case.

If A>B>C logic TRULY worked here, then what you are essentially saying is this: Sasuke>Naruto>Pain, because if Sasuke beat Naruto in part 1 then he shall remain better than Naruto, and since Naruto beat Pain, Sasuke would win in a fight against Pain. This logic does NOT APPLY to Naruto. There are no exceptions to A>B>C logic, it either applies or it doesnt apply. It does not apply here.
 

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i agree, it works (like you said with some exceptions). btw about kisame, he is a jinchuuriki hunter so he is a jinchuuriki's worst nightmare (bee or the others).
 
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logic doesn't apply nor does it fit anywhere in Naruto. From a logical standpoint, Naruto as a plot and a narrative is a mess. Half of the so called powerful Ninjitsus are god-jitsus and anything that shines has to be an Uchiha booty. Lastly, the main character is the weakest and worst ninja in the Manga. I have yet to see him perform ninjituse properly instead of just being a barking scrub with constant failures.
 

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If you are looking up individual stats that totally negates the use for using A>B>C logic in the first place.
It doesnt negate it. U apply it to the stats among other things to have better picture and no room for error that happens with ABC characters
 

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No i'm talking about matches we've seen in the manga. Gai bested Kisame when Kisame bested Bee
Samehada betrayed Kisame. It is what kept Killer-Bee alive until back-up came to definitely save Bee, and kisame even had a infiltration-mission to accomplish anyway. Concerning Gai vs Kisame, i hardly see where Samehada could have change a thing since it couldn't absorb any of Gai's attack which are taijutsu made
However, that was a pretty effed up fight since one had informatoin on the other xD. But in the end.... Killer B wasn't as exhausted or tired as Kisame. o.o

Samehada, and Kisame having his normal chakra... which is higher then Nagato's could've made the whole difference actually.


i agree, it works (like you said with some exceptions). btw about kisame, he is a jinchuuriki hunter so he is a jinchuuriki's worst nightmare (bee or the others).
True, but if you rewatch the fight, Killer B wasn't tired like Kisame ;x
 

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You're making a Thread 'cause I was saying Hashirama isn't unbeatable?
You're THAT much butthurt? Why didn't you discuss this in my thread?

Anyways, A > B >C logic doesn't work unless you put it in a position where it has to work.
 
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i agree, it works (like you said with some exceptions). btw about kisame, he is a jinchuuriki hunter so he is a jinchuuriki's worst nightmare (bee or the others).

Your Avatar picture looks like the photo of Abdal Aziz Bin Alsood.
 

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Sasori can beat hanzou, Hanzou can beat the 3 sanin at once. SO does that mean Sasori Beats all 3 sanin???

NoN MS sasuke can beat diedara, deidara can beat gaara. Does that mean Regular sharingan sasuke can beat Jinjuriki in desert Gaara???


Its either A>B>C logic works all the time or it doesnt work all the time. Make up your mind.
 

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Sasori can beat hanzou, Hanzou can beat the 3 sanin at once. SO does that mean Sasori Beats all 3 sanin???

NoN MS sasuke can beat diedara, deidara can beat gaara. Does that mean Regular sharingan sasuke can beat Jinjuriki in desert Gaara???


Its either A>B>C logic works all the time or it doesnt work all the time. Make up your mind.

Gaara has a chance of beating MS Sasuke.
 

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Gaara has a chance of beating MS Sasuke.

Shukaku Gaara can defeat MS sasuke with ease. but that isnt the point.

Im talking about can Shukaku gaara lose to regular sasuke. According to his logic its a yes.
 
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no dude, he's the italian lead character from the assassins creed video game.

The guy look Middle Eastern to me. Assassin's creed must be that shit-hole of a game where you play as a crazy Middle Eastern assassin killing Crusaders? What Western white person, with some respect to his culture or people plays that game?
 

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The guy look Middle Eastern to me. Assassin's creed must be that shit-hole of a game where you play as a crazy Middle Eastern assassin killing Crusaders? What Western white person, with some respect to his culture or people plays that game?

you got a lot of history to read and understand (not sure if you are kidding or serious). now talking about the game, assassins creed featured assassins from different cultures and they all respected and admired each other (specially their mentors) coz they are fighting for the same cause. and why did you assume that am a white western person ?? btw the game is developed by people form different ethnics and different religions so it's unbiased to any one, you need to play the game to see who REALLY got killed. and you need to show more respect to people (so what if ezio was middle eastern) he was ITALIAN. ezio auditore da firenze (does that sound arabian to you lol)
 
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Shukaku Gaara can defeat MS sasuke with ease. but that isnt the point.

Im talking about can Shukaku gaara lose to regular sasuke. According to his logic its a yes.

Shukaku was just a burden for Gaara.
Gaara's mama was giving him the strength he needed for protection.
I think Gaara is even stronger without Shukaku.
..and I disagree with his logic too.
 

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People say A>B>C logic doesn't work in Naruto...... however that is BS. A>B>C always works, but with exceptions.

As far "strength" go.. A>B>C logic is what determines who has more strength.

In fights however its usually A>B>C unless you have exceptions where someone is the exact opposite of someone and etc.

For example people saying :

Itachi > Shisui, doesn't mean Hiruzen > Shisui...... actually it does mean that.


But I'm tired of the non-sense of "A>B>C doesn't work in NARUTO"..... when in realty that is how "Strong" or "weak" characters are determined.

the irony is who the one who make a top 10 list are the ones who says abc logic doesnt work. why in the hell make a top10 list when abc doesnt work lol
 
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you got a lot of history to read and understand (not sure if you are kidding or serious). now talking about the game, assassins creed featured assassins from different cultures and they all respected and admired each other (specially their mentors) coz they are fighting for the same cause. and why did you assume that am a white western person ?? btw the game is developed by people form different ethnics and different religions so it's unbiased to any one, you need to play the game to see who REALLY got killed. and you need to show more respect to people (so what if ezio was middle eastern) he was ITALIAN. ezio auditore da firenze (does that sound arabian to you lol)

I never assumed you were a white Western person. That game is an abomination of game, and the so called assassins in that game are a bunch of scum. I couldn't play that game even if tried. It goes against my principles, and sense of logic and reality.
 

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Shukaku was just a burden for Gaara.
Gaara's mama was giving him the strength he needed for protection.
I think Gaara is even stronger without Shukaku.
..and I disagree with his logic too.

Shukaku gaara may have been a burden, but he was definitely stronger with the 1 tails!

 
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