8th Gate Attacks vs Perfect Susanoo

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There are no other attacks that were able to do such concentrated damage to the ground. I believe 5 steps of EE can break PS. I wonder why Madara never bothered to use PS after he became a juubi jin. Maybe because his body is stronger? Just speculating..
 

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There are no other attacks that were able to do such concentrated damage to the ground. I believe 5 steps of EE can break PS. I wonder why Madara never bothered to use PS after he became a juubi jin. Maybe because his body is stronger? Just speculating..
That why sasuke cut him in half?
 

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All of gai's attacks wouldn't completely destroyed PS but it may be able to puncture a hole in it...
 

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That why sasuke cut him in half?
Madara's durability isn't effective against things that pierce. Against blunt force trauma though, he's had the best durability feats.
 

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Madara's durability isn't effective against things that pierce. Against blunt force trauma though, he's had the best durability feats.

Is that why Guy splattered his guts across the wall
 

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Is that why Guy splattered his guts across the wall
lol, he's had the best durability feats against blunt force, but that doesn't mean blunt force wouldn't work on him. For example, Night Gai.
 

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by hype, 8th gated gai is above EMS Madara's level, thus if this fight were to happen in the manga he'd probably break PS with 5 direct hits.

However the feats (more specifically jj madara's durability feats) are all over the place, but the benefit of the doubt should go to the Gai who fought the juubi jink, not the guy who fought the inferior Hashirama.
 

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Susanoo tanks both. 1000 Shinsuusenju punches along with 11 TBB+PS blades only destroyed half of PS. Evening Elephant and Night Moth have both been shown around only mountain hit. PS took country attacks.​
 

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Susanoo tanks both. 1000 Shinsuusenju punches along with 11 TBB+PS blades only destroyed half of PS. Evening Elephant and Night Moth have both been shown around only mountain hit. PS took country attacks.​
yet an indirect hit from EE broke and kept going, the same shield that with less damage.

madara took the full force of that punch, yet Yagai completely erased a third of his body which puts it at least a tier above a direct hit from EE which is much stronger than a senpou bijuudama.

Also, PS didn't tank the explosions of its own bijuudama+PS blades, the attacks exploded outwardly just like you saw the senpou bijuudama explode in that above scan.
 

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yet an indirect hit from EE broke and kept going, the same shield that with less damage.

madara took the full force of that punch, yet Yagai completely erased a third of his body which puts it at least a tier above a direct hit from EE which is much stronger than a senpou bijuudama.

Also, PS didn't tank the explosions of its own bijuudama+PS blades, the attacks exploded outwardly just like you saw the senpou bijuudama explode in that above scan.

The Onmyoudon is broken from any attack that doesn't use Ninjutsu. The first thing you need understand. The second thing is, Senpou-TBB is not on the level of DC compared to Shinsuusenju or 100% Kurama's TBB. The third thing is, anything caught in the radius of an explosion will be damaged. PS was inside the radius of the explosion, therefore it was taking a lot of damage. The size of the explosion completely dwarfed multiple number of mountains. [ ] Madara's Jinchuuriki body is not durable as PS.​
 

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The Onmyoudon is broken from any attack that doesn't use Ninjutsu. The first thing you need understand.​

The correct answer is onmyouton CAN BE DAMAGED by substances that don't have senjutsu.

The second thing is, Senpou-TBB is not on the level of DC compared to Shinsuusenju or 100% Kurama's TBB.
based on... 100% Kurama's tailed beast bomb AoE being only while normal tailed beast bombs from bijuus 2-7 had an AoE

The third thing is, anything caught in the radius of an explosion will be damaged. PS was inside the radius of the explosion, therefore it was taking a lot of damage. The size of the explosion completely dwarfed multiple number of mountains. [ ] Madara's Jinchuuriki body is not durable as PS.
PS wasn't in the radius of the 11+ bijuubladed damas. Those damas exploded outwardly like naruto's bijuudama did when it hit the onmyouton or when KN4's bijuudama hit the rashoumon gates. That's why and why the explosions look like rather than
 

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No offense, but you might want to check your information on Jutsu. Specifically, TBB.​


The correct answer is onmyouton CAN BE DAMAGED by substances that don't have senjutsu.

Naruto's BM and Sasuke's Susanoo possessed Senjutsu, natural energy confirmed and shown to be the weakness of Onmyoudon. Again, Onmyoudon is weak against anything that doesn't use Ninjutsu alone.​

based on... 100% Kurama's tailed beast bomb AoE being only this big while normal tailed beast bombs from bijuus 2-7 had an AoE this big?

What in the world? That was perfect Susanoo that slashed those mountains. That was Hachibi's whirlwind. They're not TBB. 100% Kurama's TBB is stronger because it's twice the size of 50% Kurama's TBB.

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PS wasn't in the radius of the 11+ bijuubladed damas. Those damas exploded outwardly like naruto's bijuudama did when it hit the onmyouton or when KN4's bijuudama hit the rashoumon gates. That's why we see no explosions around PS and why the explosions look like this rather than this.

Are you blind? The explosion is right here:
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Shinsuusenju and PS were exactly inside there.​
 

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onmyouton isn't weak against senjutsu or taijutsu it's just the fact that ninjutsu doesn't work on it
 

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No offense, but you might want to check your information on Jutsu. Specifically, TBB.​
well lets see if your evidence backs up that assertion.


Naruto's BM and Sasuke's Susanoo possessed Senjutsu, natural energy confirmed and shown to be the weakness of Onmyoudon. Again, Onmyoudon is weak against anything that doesn't use Ninjutsu alone.​
You explicitly stated that anything that's not ninjutsu will break onmyouton. Did onmyouton break in that panel? Nope, therefore your statement is false. Onmyouton isn't weak against things that aren't ninjutsu, they just can't erase things that are senjutsu.


What in the world? That was perfect Susanoo that slashed those mountains. That was Hachibi's whirlwind. They're not TBB. 100% Kurama's TBB is stronger because it's twice the size of 50% Kurama's TBB.​

I thought you'd realize the point of the scans without me having to explain, but i guess not so here it goes. In the first scan where kyuusanoo is slashing those mountains, it shows the AoE of as we see kyuusanoo is standing in the crater.
The second scan of bee's whirlwind shows you the AoE of the bijuudamas from bijuu 2-7 as we see here 100% Kurama is much bigger than the other bijuus, but not to the point where the other bijuus are smaller than kurama's head. As long as that is true, 100% Kurama's bijuudama was only comparable in power to what the other bijuu were firing.

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that just means the bijuudama yang kurama was about to fire isn't as powerful as what 100% Kurama fired at VoTe. BSM Naruto's bijuudamas are far stronger than his normal ones since they are enhanced by sage mode.

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yeah, the right half of the explosion was created by the tailed beast bomb + PS swords, and the left half of the explosion was created by the shinsuusenjuu's barrage punching kyusanoo and creating shockwaves and blowing up the ground as you can see

Shinsuusenju and PS were exactly inside there.
yep they were.
 

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None of Gai techs have wide enough destructive scale to destroy Ps completely small holes yes but destroying it NO!
 

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Evening elephant focuses its power on a small area in comparison to bijuu dama whose power gets spread all over, it would definitely punch a hole through susanoo

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You do realize Kaguya can counter any ninjutsu right?

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You do realize PS is a ninjutsu right?

You are such a ****ing idiot:stfu:

black zetsu is talking about absorbing ninjutsu, Kaguya fucking destroyed susanoo instead of absorbing

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Evening elephant focuses its power on a small area in comparison to bijuu dama whose power gets spread all over, it would definitely punch a hole through susanoo

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black zetsu is talking about absorbing ninjutsu, Kaguya fucking destroyed susanoo instead of absorbing

Don't compare Gai to Kaguya.
 
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