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Buy a PC. Consoles are inferior in performance and visuals no matter how you twist it.

Also, FFXV is almost definitely coming to PC, as Tabata himself said he'd very much like to do a good PC port.
 

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Buy a PC. Consoles are inferior in performance and visuals no matter how you twist it.

Also, FFXV is almost definitely coming to PC, as Tabata himself said he'd very much like to do a good PC port.
Yeah but when would that come to PC 2026? and it's not a guarantee it would even happen...another thing is PC ports are really bad these days because developers main cash market is consoles and they don't put much effort in PC since most people are just going to pirate their games.

I still have other console exclusive games like Kingdom Hearts III and Final Fantasy VII Remake to worry about, PC probably never will provide them.
 

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So, what do you exactly want to do? It's a console upgrade and it's the new future for the consoles. Either, you deal with it and buy it. Or, you can keep your PS4, as all games will be available for it as well. I highly doubt every game will even support 4K for now. It's mostly 1080 P with 60 FPS patches from November onwards.

The choice is yours.
 

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So, what do you exactly want to do? It's a console upgrade and it's the new future for the consoles. Either, you deal with it and buy it. Or, you can keep your PS4, as all games will be available for it as well. I highly doubt every game will even support 4K for now. It's mostly 1080 P with 60 FPS patches from November onwards.

The choice is yours.
Well since I already have a PS4 I think the smart decision to do is keep my current PS4 and wait until the Scorpio comes out?? i mean it's way more powerful than the PS4 pro and games like FFXV and FFVIIR(when it's not a time exclusive anymore) will look great on it.
 

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They can't even run 1080p properly and they're going for 4k? lmao. The 4k isn't even real 4k either. It's literally a meme. You're much better off saving your money.
 

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They can't even run 1080p properly and they're going for 4k? lmao. The 4k isn't even real 4k either. It's literally a meme. You're much better off saving your money.
Microsoft said their Scorpio will be native 4k unlike the PS4 pro. even though the Pro can run some games in native 4k
 

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Microsoft said their Scorpio will be native 4k unlike the PS4 pro. even though the Pro can run some games in native 4k
>native 4k unlike the PS4 pro
They would have to be really small games then. Or at like 15fps.

>Microsoft said their Scorpio will be native 4k
Even if this is w/o gimmicks, how is it gonna perform? It would probably run like ass too.
 

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>native 4k unlike the PS4 pro
They would have to be really small games then. Or at like 15fps.

>Microsoft said their Scorpio will be native 4k
Even if this is w/o gimmicks, how is it gonna perform? It would probably run like ass too.
lmao yeah they said their games will be native 4K 60fps a all times, it's microsoft here, they can actually afford to do that and remember scorpio is far more powerful than the pro and even yesterday they were boating about this.

[video=youtube;IYI4jMeo6es]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYI4jMeo6es[/video]
 

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lmao yeah they said their games will be native 4K 60fps a all times, it's microsoft here, they can actually afford to do that and remember scorpio is far more powerful than the pro and even yesterday they were boating about this.

[video=youtube;IYI4jMeo6es]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYI4jMeo6es[/video]
I still have my doubts for native at 60fps. Unless it's more-so the resolution than full-blown. Guess we'll see though.
 

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I still have my doubts for native at 60fps. Unless it's more-so the resolution than full-blown. Guess we'll see though.
Yeah we will wait and see, i doubt Phil Spencer and microsoft would make such bold claims for no reason i mean it's Mircosoft , they are tech wizards and they lost the first half of the console generation and won't screw up with this. they have more than an entire year to make their console Native 4K 60FPS at all times. when they said the most powerful console with "no limitations" at e3 though..damn. they can afford it so I can't say anything they have more money than Sony by far
 

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Yeah we will wait and see, i doubt Phil Spencer and microsoft would make such bold claims for no reason i mean it's Mircosoft , they are tech wizards and they lost the first half of the console generation and won't screw up with this. they have more than an entire year to make their console Native 4K 60FPS at all times. when they said the most powerful console with "no limitations" at e3 though..damn. they can afford it so I can't say anything they have more money than Sony by far
That's true enough.
 

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Yeah we will wait and see, i doubt Phil Spencer and microsoft would make such bold claims for no reason i mean it's Mircosoft , they are tech wizards and they lost the first half of the console generation and won't screw up with this. they have more than an entire year to make their console Native 4K 60FPS at all times. when they said the most powerful console with "no limitations" at e3 though..damn. they can afford it so I can't say anything they have more money than Sony by far
Maybe you're not understanding, but 4K on these consoles is nothing but a gimmick, a marketing ploy to get you to buy the new hardware. Currently, the only dedicated graphics cards that can natively run 4K games are priced over $500, and to run a game at 60fps you'd have to buy two of these, and they would actually still struggle to keep a constant 60fps on certain games.

Maybe you didn't know this, but video game graphics are watered down so that consoles can play them without melting down, even after that they can barely play at 1080, even less 60fps. Don't kid yourself. The only way these new consoles can play at 4K is by upscaling ugly 720/1080 graphics. It's not true 4K and it never will be.

Dude, save your money, unless you really need 1080 60fps, which in itself will make a minute difference in your gaming experience as far as consoles go.
 

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Maybe you're not understanding, but 4K on these consoles is nothing but a gimmick, a marketing ploy to get you to buy the new hardware. Currently, the only dedicated graphics cards that can natively run 4K games are priced over $500, and to run a game at 60fps you'd have to buy two of these, and they would actually still struggle to keep a constant 60fps on certain games.

Maybe you didn't know this, but video game graphics are watered down so that consoles can play them without melting down, even after that they can barely play at 1080, even less 60fps. Don't kid yourself. The only way these new consoles can play at 4K is by upscaling ugly 720/1080 graphics. It's not true 4K and it never will be.

Dude, save your money, unless you really need 1080 60fps, which in itself will make a minute difference in your gaming experience as far as consoles go.
Honestly, you don't know what Microsoft has invented to keep their promises. why would they boast so much and when they day comes they look silly??? no bro i think you are just hating. technology is constantly improving and they may have invented something to make it happen..they are microsoft for christ sake man.

btw PS4 pro was upscaling 1440p to 4K

I believe they figured something out. if PS4 Pro is runing SOME games at Native 4k 30FPS then the more powerful Scorpio can be Native 4K 60 FPS. hey you're not Microsoft so you can't say what they can or can't do.
 
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Well since I already have a PS4 I think the smart decision to do is keep my current PS4 and wait until the Scorpio comes out?? i mean it's way more powerful than the PS4 pro and games like FFXV and FFVIIR(when it's not a time exclusive anymore) will look great on it.
Scorpio is WAY off into the future, mate. I believe about 1 to 1.5 years (holiday season 2017). If you are waiting for it to release with a XV patch, then you might as well sit waiting for more than a year at this point. VII R is a timed exclusive (for now), which means it might hit Scorpio after a year or so. A Scorpio patch would be well into the future.

Also, buying Scorpio is financial suicide, as most games are not even MS exclusive these days. They are easily available on PC as well. If you DO want to buy, then get a Neo and get a decent gaming laptop as XV will come to PC eventually. It's inevitable and Tabata has hinted at it a few times as well. If not, then stick with your PS4 for now.
 
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