7th gate Gai vs KCM Naruto

[wael reda]

conditions: gai starts in the 7th gate ,and naruto starts in kcm

Restrictions:none

scenario 2: 7th gate gai vs BM Naruto w/o avatar

scenario 3: 7th gate gai vs BSM naruto w/o avatar too

who wins?

 

[KidGamer65]

Clones might foil Gai, but considering Naruto can't keep up with him on foot, and if he can react to him, it'll be barely, he might win despite clones, Gai can probably take S1 and S2. Not to mention he has a nuke with an extremely large AoE that'd one shot Naruto if he gets caught in it, and he can release it in pretty much a second.

Naruto probably wins in S3 though. Sage Mode enhancing his power should allow him to flawlessly react to Gai's speed, considering he reacted to Juubito's speed. From there, clones and guided FRS end his life.

 

[wael reda]

^that what i think too
i dont think clones is such a problem ,it is even slower than naruto ,it would never catch gai while gai would kick thier asses and eliminate them with hiudoro
i think gai still has a chance in s3 considering his feats against judara who is waaaay superior to naruto ,i dont think naruto would react fast enough

 

[KidGamer65]

^that what i think too
i dont think clones is such a problem ,it is even slower than naruto ,it would never catch gai while gai would kick thier asses and eliminate them with hiudoro

Yeah, I can give it to Gai in the first two scenarios.

i think gai still has a chance in s3 considering his feats against judara who is waaaay superior to naruto ,i dont think naruto would react fast enough

He was fast enough to push Madara back, but that's it. That feat doesn't put him above Juubito in speed, who Naruto can track. Will Naruto be able to casually back step and block Gai's attacks? Nope. Will he be able to react well enough to block? Yup.

 

[Lariatoo]

imo Naruto wins all.

 

[Gold Lightning]

KCM Naruto can't keep up with Guy on for Lol

 

[Beans2]

KCM loses.

KCSM wins.

BM w/o avatar loses.

BSM w/o avatar wins.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Clones might foil Gai, but considering Naruto can't keep up with him on foot, and if he can react to him, it'll be barely, he might win despite clones, Gai can probably take S1 and S2. Not to mention he has a nuke with an extremely large AoE that'd one shot Naruto if he gets caught in it, and he can release it in pretty much a second.

Naruto probably wins in S3 though. Sage Mode enhancing his power should allow him to flawlessly react to Gai's speed, considering he reacted to Juubito's speed. From there, clones and guided FRS end his life.

Don't see how 7G Gai's speed would be trouble for Naruto to deal with.

- KCM Minato reacted to the Juubi's Bijudama, which fire at sub relativistic speeds (They cross countries in seconds). Then KCM Naruto has reaction feats to match his if not better.

- His Shunshin is also fast enough to blitz Kisame, who was able to match Hirudora's activation speed.

- Completely outsped Ay's V2 Shunshin, which is an outright blitz against Minato (With the exception of Lv2 Hiriashin)

Then there's a few better speed feats to add to BM Naruto​

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[KidGamer65]

Don't see how 7G Gai's speed would be trouble for Naruto to deal with.

- KCM Minato reacted to the Juubi's Bijudama, which fire at sub relativistic speeds (They cross countries in seconds). Then KCM Naruto has reaction feats to match his if not better.​

He didn't. Only V2 Juubi's standard Bijuu Dama were shown to move so fast that they cross countries in mere seconds. Minato wasn't around to deal with that. The only Juubidama he's ever reacted to was the super charged one from V3 Juubi, and that Bijuu Dama was moving slow in comparison to the regular considering literally every shinobi in the SA reacted to it, and Killer B was fast enough to intercept it, after firing off two Bijuu Dama and failing.

Also, can you post where Naruto reacted on par (at least) with KCM Minato? I'm curious, mainly because Tobirama was able to react to Juubito's Shunshin (albeit losing half his body) while KCM Naruto was blitzed with no reaction. That'd mean Tobirama>KCM Minato>>Base Minato in reaction speed, which is strange to me.

- His Shunshin is also fast enough to blitz Kisame, who was able to match Hirudora's activation speed.

Hirudora's activation speed isn't anything special anyway, not to mention all that means is that Daikodan forms as fast as Hirudora, and that Kisame can make his hand sign as fast as Gai. Doesn't mean that Kisame did anything close to reacting to Gai's speed, considering 6G was overwhelming him in said department, let alone 7G Gai.

- Completely outsped Ay's V2 Shunshin, which is an outright blitz against Minato (With the exception of Lv2 Hiriashin)

7G Gai is faster than Ay by a good deal, and KCM Naruto given his feats against JJ Madara. Fast enough to surprise JJ Madara. Fast enough to push him back and land hits (Somewhat) instead of just being cut down like Minato was. Then there's the fact that Obito tore off Minato's arm before he could jump away with Hiraishin, but 7G Gai was pushing back the faster Jin, making him >KCM Minato who is, at the bare minimum, on par with Naruto in speed and reactions.​

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Naruto wins all scenarios

 

[Haizaki]

- His Shunshin is also fast enough to blitz Kisame, who was able to match Hirudora's activation speed.

No this is false..Manga is read from right to left with shows Kisame pulled his attack first before Gai did

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So no he didn't react to someone that could activate AT and release it forcing Madara to block rather than evade...Could also activate and release AT before Madara could completehis sword stab even though Madara attacked first

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Not to mention Kisame was extremely weakened and was caught by surprise.

 

[madvictory]

KCM Naruto stomps. Just ask Mr. Planetary Rasengan.

Gai never killed anybody.



In his fight against Kisame, he only won (and still struggled a lot) because the former had no intel about Gai's transformation not using chakra, he didn't have his SAMEHADA, and at his base form, he had less than 10% of his chakra.

 

[madvictory]

No this is false..Manga is read from right to left with shows Kisame pulled his attack first before Gai did

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So no he didn't react to someone that could activate AT and release it forcing Madara to block rather than evade...Could also activate and release AT before Madara could completehis sword stab even though Madara attacked first

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Not to mention Kisame was extremely weakened and was caught by surprise.

Also this. Not only Gai fortunately won because of the unfair factors that I mentioned, but also because Kisame was caught by surprise.

 

[Black Wolf]

Gai never struggled against Kisame. He didn't need the 7th gate against him; his primary reasoning for using 7th gate was to prevent the shark with the intel from escaping. His "struggle" was boxing in thousands of sharks from escaping, not dealing with Kisame himself.

Gai's speed is tiers above Kisame, especially when gated. He doesn't need to have a "beam struggle" with Kisame as he did in the manga; he could easily just use his movement speed to dodge anything Kisame throws at him and then flank and end him with a Morning Peacock.

The situation in the manga didn't allow Gai to exploit the massive speed gap between him and Kisame because he had to physically try and stop the attacks. If he avoided them, the shark would have escaped.

Kisame had the advantage of being in an advantageous area (a massive water source), which saved him chakra he would have otherwise had to expend to create a source himself. And what would Samehada have done? He'd still have gotten nuked by gated attacks all the same; Samehada cannot absorb that.

The only argument for Samehada being of use against Gai is for healing his injuries, but Gai is very capable of disarming him.