[VS] 7G Gai vs Tobirama

[Sweet Pudding]

Location : Gai vs Madara
Intel : Manga
Restrictions : Edo Tensei,8G and Turtle

 

[Conspirator.]

You restricted Edo tensei. Can Tobirama use Gojo bombs to the same capacity without edos?(some people were saying he could according to the databook, but I'm not sure). If he can, I think he wins. If not, he loses.

 

[RedRobin]

You restricted Edo tensei. Can Tobirama use Gojo bombs to the same capacity without edos?(some people were saying he could according to the databook, but I'm not sure). If he can, I think he wins. If not, he loses.

It specifically states in the databook that if a living person were to do the technique that it would result in death.

Some people still seem to think Tobirama gets away quick enough.

 

[Gold Lightning]

It specifically states in the databook that if a living person were to do the technique that it would result in death.

"Inevitable death" to be precise. However apparently to some people, that doesn't mean anything.

Anyway, with full intel I'd say Tobirama wins. Although im sure Tobirama knows what the gates is, so yeah, I think he wins. It's all about being on the defensive, creating distance and utilising as many shadow clones as possible, in an effective manner.

 

[Jaeger]

I don't see why he can't use a Kage Bunshin. He has used Kage Bunshin in suicide scenarios before.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I don't see why he can't use a Kage Bunshin. He has used Kage Bunshin in suicide scenarios before.

There's no specifics on how the jutsu works, or what the jutsu requirements and mechanics are. So maybe the jutsu can't be used via clones. And when did Tobirama do that?

 

[Jaeger]

There's no specifics on how the jutsu works, or what the jutsu requirements and mechanics are. So maybe the jutsu can't be used via clones. And when did Tobirama do that?

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[Gold Lightning]

Er yeah, we know FTG can be used via clones.

But this isn't FTG we're talking about. Anyone can sacrifice a clone in that situation.

 

[Jaeger]

I said that he has used clones in a suicide scenario before.

You asked me for proof.

I provided it.

So what is the problem here?

 

[Gold Lightning]

I said that he has used clones in a suicide scenario before.

You asked me for proof.

I provided it.

So what is the problem here?

Because some techniques can't be used with clones. And the scenario you provided has nothing to do with gojou kibakufuda at all. Not to mention people always forget that GK is practically useless if you can't restrain the opponent like Hashirama did.

 

[Jaeger]

Because some techniques can't be used with clones. And the scenario you provided has nothing to do with gojou kibakufuda at all. Not to mention people always forget that GK is practically useless if you can't restrain the opponent like Hashirama did.

GKF is a suicide attack. This is what links them. I am not talking about mechanics, but mentality. Would Tobirama do it? The real question. And what can the real body do that clone can't? Makes no sense. His Kage Bunshin should be able to use it.

 

[Gold Lightning]

GKF is a suicide attack. This is what links them. I am not talking about mechanics, but mentality. Would Tobirama do it? The real question. And what can the real body do that clone can't? Makes no sense. His Kage Bunshin should be able to use it.

You said should be, which means you don't know. If the databook says it's an inevitable suicide then I'm gonna go with that. Same way reaper death seal, or reverse tetregram seal are both suicidal techniques.

And gkf is a suicide technique. The truth seeking balls aren't, so no they aren't linked

 

[Jaeger]

You said should be, which means you don't know. If the databook says it's an inevitable suicide then I'm gonna go with that. Same way reaper death seal, or reverse tetregram seal are both suicidal techniques.

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Obviously both do not use the same principle. The mechanics of GKF is to summon simple paper tags. If Naruto's clone busted himself with a paper tag, would Naruto also die too? Common sense. RDS uses soul, and clones share the same soul as the original body. GKF uses no other method than summoning tags and you can even use a wood log as a medium as long as the jutsu can be completed, while the real body is unharmed.

I never said what I said it's a fact. But relying on Databook that way is just plain ignorance. Obviously when said that it's inevitable suicide technique, it's meant that the medium dies. If the clone dies, then the clone dies not the original body.

This is so hard to explain as it's so obvious.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Cant Gai use Hirudora or just a blast of chakra to blow away Tobirama's paper bombs? Anyway im leaning more towards Tobirama winning

 

[Gold Lightning]

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Obviously both do not use the same principle. The mechanics of GKF is to summon simple paper tags. If Naruto's clone busted himself with a paper tag, would Naruto also die too? Common sense. RDS uses soul, and clones share the same soul as the original body. GKF uses no other method than summoning tags and you can even use a wood log as a medium as long as the jutsu can be completed, while the real body is unharmed.

I never said what I said it's a fact. But relying on Databook that way is just plain ignorance. Obviously when said that it's inevitable suicide technique, it's meant that the medium dies. If the clone dies, then the clone dies not the original body.

This is so hard to explain as it's so obvious.

I don't doubt at death can be avoided with a clone, I don't.

But the problem is, you don't know how the jutsu works. These aren't ordinary paper bombs. These papers have special seals on them which cause them to multiply continuously and explode. Tobirama pulled them out of his Edo body, that's where the special tags came from.

So explain how it would work alive. Does he stick his hand into his live chest and pull out tags. Does he pull them out of his ass? Does he summon them? We all know he doesn't carry around a ninja back nor does he have any pockets or compartments, so it depends how the jutsu is performed. That's why I said maybe the alive version requires the jutsu to be performed by the real body and not a simple clone. If you don't know how the jutsu works then how can you say a clone uses it. Again, these aren't your regular paper bombs.

 

[RicardoA]

Tobirama would win.
He's more than fast enough to avoid Hirudora with FTG, tire Gai and eventually finish him off.

 

[Jaeger]

I don't doubt at death can be avoided with a clone, I don't.

But the problem is, you don't know how the jutsu works. These aren't ordinary paper bombs. These papers have special seals on them which cause them to multiply continuously and explode. Tobirama pulled them out of his Edo body, that's where the special tags came from.

So explain how it would work alive. Does he stick his hand into his live chest and pull out tags. Does he pull them out of his ass? Does he summon them? We all know he doesn't carry around a ninja back nor does he have any pockets or compartments, so it depends how the jutsu is performed. That's why I said maybe the alive version requires the jutsu to be performed by the real body and not a simple clone. If you don't know how the jutsu works then how can you say a clone uses it. Again, these aren't your regular paper bombs.

No, he summoned them. If he had created them using the paper of Edo Tensei body, he had not said he ''summoned them'' but created them. Instead, this was used with Kuchiyose no Jutsu, like Sasuke did

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. The only special thing about the tag is that it summons more and more paper tags, creating an infinite explosion. The mechanic though, is exactly the same as with Sasuke's jutsu.

He summons them. They are only different because they have a seal carved on top of them and doesn't need activation but are preset to explode.

 

[Gold Lightning]

No, he summoned them. If he had created them using the paper of Edo Tensei body, he had not said he ''summoned them'' but created them. Instead, this was used with Kuchiyose no Jutsu, like Sasuke did

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. The only special thing about the tag is that it summons more and more paper tags, creating an infinite explosion. The mechanic though, is exactly the same as with Sasuke's jutsu.

He summons them. They are only different because they have a seal carved on top of them and doesn't need activation but are preset to explode.

Scan where he summoned them? He clearly pulled it out of his chest.

He said he created Edo Tensei, along with techniques to go with them. He said nothing about summoning.

 

[KingHashirama]

Tobirama takes it mid-diff .

 

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