[VS] 7G Gai vs Killer Bee

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Restrictions : Bee cannot turn into Gyuki but he can turn into his mini 8 tails mode which he used against Kisame,Gai cant go 8G

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Killer bee wins... V2 cloaks are very durable...
 

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Can't see how Gai bypasses v2 cloak.
 

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B gets raped. Gai would slap him around in CQC due to his vastly superior speed and reflexes, and the fact that unlike people like KCM Naruto and Ay, he can move at that ridiculous amount of speed continuously, instead of a short burst. Gai punts him around like a football and then Hirudora kills him, which he won't survive unless he's more durable than Madara's V3 Susanoo, which he isn't.
 

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B gets raped. Gai would slap him around in CQC due to his vastly superior speed and reflexes, and the fact that unlike people like KCM Naruto and Ay, he can move at that ridiculous amount of speed continuously, instead of a short burst. Gai punts him around like a football and then Hirudora kills him, which he won't survive unless he's more durable than Madara's V3 Susanoo, which he isn't.

6 tailed Naruto tanked his own TBB. Why can't V2 Bee tank Hirudora?
 

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B gets raped. Gai would slap him around in CQC due to his vastly superior speed and reflexes, and the fact that unlike people like KCM Naruto and Ay, he can move at that ridiculous amount of speed continuously, instead of a short burst. Gai punts him around like a football and then Hirudora kills him, which he won't survive unless he's more durable than Madara's V3 Susanoo, which he isn't.
Lmao stop with this none-sense... v2 tanks anything Gai has to offer including Hirudora Kisame tanked Hirudora... V2 Killer bee punched a whole through Samehada and Kisame... A feat no version of Gai has ever did not to mention it's pretty obvious the cloaks can tank much more than what they can dish out...
 

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6 tailed Naruto tanked his own TBB. Why can't V2 Bee tank Hirudora?

1. KN6=/=Killer B. In fact, KN6>V2 B.

2. Hirudora smashed Susanoo. Unless you think B is more durable than V2 Susanoo, he gets smashed as well. Not sure how KN6 tanking its own Bijuu Dama is relevant when there is nothing that even puts that Bijuu Dama above Hirudora in strength.

Lmao stop with this none-sense... v2 tanks anything Gai has to offer including Hirudora Kisame tanked Hirudora... V2 Killer bee punched a whole through Samehada and Kisame... A feat no version of Gai has ever did not to mention it's pretty obvious the cloaks can tank much more than what they can dish out...

Hirudora's best feat is blowing open Susanoo. Unless you think V2 B is more durable, he dies too. If you do think that B is more durable, get evidence.

I never said that 7G Gai is physically stronger than V2 Killer B. Hirudora>>>V2 Lariat though.
 

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Bee shits low diff.

-Reflexes and reactions fast enough to intercept Minato while marked, and lacking knowledge. Gai's movements do not and never will match that of instantaneous teleportations.

-Durability to withstand TBB (Naruto is reference), which creates more output energy than Hirudora does. Result is getting tanked. Even Kisame survived it.

-Gai can't maintain 7th Gate for even a minute, so Bee simply tanks his attacks or distracts him with ink clones.

Once Gai is out of Gates, Bee tears him apart with Lariat, or just nukes him with TBB.
 
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1. KN6=/=Killer B. In fact, KN6>V2 B.

2. Hirudora smashed Susanoo. Unless you think B is more durable than V2 Susanoo, he gets smashed as well. Not sure how KN6 tanking its own Bijuu Dama is relevant when there is nothing that even puts that Bijuu Dama above Hirudora in strength.

1. What supports this? Naruto was in his six tailed mode, and V2 Bee can go up to 7 tails. Since V2 durability, speed, and pretty much everything is increased when the number of tails are increased, Bee should be able to tank his own V2 bijuudama in 7-tailed mode.

2. What proof is there that Susano'o is more durable than a V2 cloak with 7 tails? @Bold, Kisame without Samehada tanked it for crying out loud and then went on to break free of Yamato's stocks, I understand that wasn't a full power Hirudora but it should be apparent that bijuudama is a more powerful attack.
 

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1. What supports this? Naruto was in his six tailed mode, and V2 Bee can go up to 7 tails. Since V2 durability, speed, and pretty much everything is increased when the number of tails are increased, Bee should be able to tank his own V2 bijuudama in 7-tailed mode.

Number of tails=/=Strength despite their tails varying from 2 to 7, all of the V2 Jins were shown to be the around the same level, with no obvious gaps in strength, then go ahead and factor in the fact that Kurama is in a completely different league than Killer B. (And no, B has 8 tails) Lets also add in the fact that KN6's feats>V2 Killer B's feats. There is no logical reason why you would hand KN6's feats over to Killer B.

2. What proof is there that Susano'o is more durable than a V2 cloak with 7 tails?
The fact that V2 cloaks were getting peeled by an attack like Raikiri. The fact Susanoo's tanking feats completely surpass anything a V2 cloak has ever taken. What tanking feats put the V2 cloak on Susanoo's level when it comes to defense anyway? And no

Besides, if you think that KN6 tanked the full brunt of that Bijuu Dama, you are pretty much saying that Deva tanked the full brunt too since they were in the same area. Its pretty clear that wherever they were, it was not the center of the blast. Deva slammed a rock into KN6 before it went off, thus diverting the aim of the Dama.


@Bold, Kisame without Samehada tanked it for crying out loud and then went on to break free of Yamato's stocks, I understand that wasn't a full power Hirudora but it should be apparent that bijuudama is a more powerful attack.

Lol, yeah, it wasn't a full power Hirudora and it had to go through GSB, and Gai wasn't even trying to kill him. So why are you mentioning it? Hirudora's best feat is busting open V3 Susanoo and knocking out Madara.

Nothing makes it apparent that KN6's Bijuu Dama is a stronger attack. It being Bijuu Dama isn't evidence.
 

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Number of tails=/=Strength despite their tails varying from 2 to 7, all of the V2 Jins were shown to be the around the same level, with no obvious gaps in strength, then go ahead and factor in the fact that Kurama is in a completely different league than Killer B. (And no, B has 8 tails) Lets also add in the fact that KN6's feats>V2 Killer B's feats. There is no logical reason why you would hand KN6's feats over to Killer B.


The fact that V2 cloaks were getting peeled by an attack like Raikiri. The fact Susanoo's tanking feats completely surpass anything a V2 cloak has ever taken. What tanking feats put the V2 cloak on Susanoo's level when it comes to defense anyway? And no

Besides, if you think that KN6 tanked the full brunt of that Bijuu Dama, you are pretty much saying that Deva tanked the full brunt too since they were in the same area. Its pretty clear that wherever they were, it was not the center of the blast. Deva slammed a rock into KN6 before it went off, thus diverting the aim of the Dama.




Lol, yeah, it wasn't a full power Hirudora and it had to go through GSB, and Gai wasn't even trying to kill him. So why are you mentioning it? Hirudora's best feat is busting open V3 Susanoo and knocking out Madara.

Nothing makes it apparent that KN6's Bijuu Dama is a stronger attack. It being Bijuu Dama isn't evidence.

Nope can't do this today. I'll reply tomorrow
 

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Kisame didnt tank anywhere near the full power of Hirudora,
seeing how AT had to go through GSB and guy wasnt even trying to kill him ffs
furthermore Kisame was heavily damaged by a V2 Bee lariat, something thats no where near as powerful as AT, him tanking it head on when V3 Susanoo (which is far more durable then Kisame) was busted and knocked madara back, is a joke,

OT - Guy wins this
 

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Gai wins. For people saying that "Buut Kisame survived Hirudora..."

-The Hirudora had to go through a big GSB first, so Kisame didn't take the brunt of the explosion.
-The Hirudora was done underwater IIRC. Hirduora works on the principle of gathering air pressure, which is obviously much harder to do unerwater. So the DC of a Hirudora done on land would probably be greater.
-Gai wasn't trying to kill.

Gai evades all of KB's attacks, and kills him with Hirudora(which destroyed Madara's v3 Susanoo).
 

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Hirudora is actually more potent under water;

HowStuffWorks.com said:
In an explosion surrounded by air, the atmosphere will compress and absorb some of the explosive energy. This decreases the lethal range of the explosion. Water, however, is often described as incompressible. Technically, it can compress, but it takes a massive amount of pressure to apply a small amount of compression. This means that in an underwater explosion, the surrounding water doesn't absorb the pressure like air does, but moves with it. An underwater explosion doesn't propel objects through the water nearly as far as a surface explosion throws shrapnel because of the drag water exerts on objects. However, an underwater explosion transmits pressure with greater intensity over a longer distance.

It going off in Daikodan makes a very small difference in the grand scheme of things, as the shockwaves from the explosion still would of reached Kisame regardless and the distance between where it went off and Kisame's position is minimal.
 

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I changed my mind, Gai low diffs..
 

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Here are some of the differences between air and water pressure: Water is much heavier than air. A cubic foot of air weighs 1/12 pound. A cubic foot of fresh water weighs 62.4 pounds and a cubic foot of sea water weighs 64 pounds. Air is a mixture of gases, principally oxygen (O2, 21 percent of the air by volume) and nitrogen (N2, 78 percent by volume). Each gas exerts its own independent pressure, the sum of which equals the total air pressure (Dalton's law). Unlike water, air (and any other gas or mixture of gases) is compressible; the greater the pressure exerted, the more tightly packed together are the individual gas molecules. Regardless of the air pressure, however, water molecules are much more tightly packed together than air molecules. Compared to air at sea level pressure (1 atm.), water is about 800 times denser. Just as air has weight and exerts pressure on all sides of an object in the atmosphere, water exerts pressure around any object immersed in it. We can push water out of the way because its weight is distributed on all sides and the molecules can be easily moved. The resistance we feel under water reflects the extreme density of water (compared to air), and the fact that it takes time for water molecules to move out of the way. Water pressure, like air pressure, is a function of weight; the deeper one goes the greater the surrounding water pressure.

Hirudora in water > Hirdura in air. It doesn't even matter whether Gai had no intention of killing Kisame, since his Hirudora exploded throughout the area, which even dwarfed the Island Turtle. It doesn't also matter whether it had to destroy through Suiton: Daikōdan no Jutsu, as Hirudora is not Chakra form but air pressure punch [ ]; and as the Suiton technique is based on absorption of Ninjutsu, it gets destroyed. Kisame survived that hit. Plain and simple. Bee is multiple times durable than Kisame, thus tanks Hirudora without damage. TBB from V2 was tanked by 6 Tailed Kyuubi, who is inferior to V2 Bee; and that Jutsu produces more force than Hirudora.

Now it's established Hirudora is a fodder to V2 cloak, everything else becomes simple. Bee's reflexes and reactions outclassed Minato's, which he intercepted while being marked. Gai's speed and punches get intercepted. Bee has physical strength, durability advantages over Gai. And Gai can't maintain his Gates for even a minute.

Bee shits, stomps, molesters, negs - you name it.
 

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Hirudora is actually more potent under water;



It going off in Daikodan makes a very small difference in the grand scheme of things, as the shockwaves from the explosion still would of reached Kisame regardless and the distance between where it went off and Kisame's position is minimal.

Actually, quite the contrary mister TAC. Hirudora is an air cannon, not an explosive such as a bomb or grenade. So whereas the former is by water, the latters shockwaves are carried with the water; making it more potent. Two different things.

OT: If V2 Bee is more durable then Madaras V3 susano'o (which I doubt), then he wins. If not, Gai wins. Simple match-up.
 
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