7 undeniable Sasuke Nerfs

[Amenotejikara]

Noticed alot of lowball sasuke threads lately, But I wonder if those would had transpired had sasuke not be nerfed.

Let's not deny that sasuke's one and only true weakness is Plot.



Taijutsu speed.

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Prime: By mirroring lee's movements. sasuke drastically increased his raw speed. able to outspeed gaara's sand then suddenly afterwards he couldn't parry anyone w/o curse mark or 3T

Curse Seal

Prime: Before it was just used for enhancing ninjutsu, in part 1 it drastically improved CQC much like sagemode today.

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Chidori True Spear

Prime: Multiple Skewed Spears able to fatallysever multiple organs at once. Imagine had he used this against danzo? he and karin would be dead asap and obito would had retrieved his shisui sharingan eye. but no, plot can't have that now can we?

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Kirin

Prime: No Impractical long prep time.

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Amaterasu

Prime: No slow burning rate on main target.

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tsukuyomi

Prime: Sasuke originally used a watered down version of itachi's tsukuyomi against killer B. but sadly, it has just become retcon as just generic:sharingan, which begs the question. why even bother going MS to trance B in gen?

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Rinnegan

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Prime: Konan, jiraiya, obito, itachi, nagato and madara hypes up rinnegan that can do anything possible including the six path techniques, but so far sasuke has only shown just half of them. and out of the half he did, only used them to half it's potential.



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[whiteboy2345]

Noticed alot of lowball sasuke threads lately, But I wonder if those would had transpired had sasuke not be nerfed.

Let's not deny that sasuke's one and only true weakness is Plot.



Taijutsu speed.

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Prime: By mirroring lee's movements. sasuke drastically increased his raw speed. able to outspeed gaara's sand then suddenly afterwards he couldn't parry anyone w/o curse mark or 3T

Curse Seal

Prime: Before it was just used for enhancing ninjutsu, in part 1 it drastically improved CQC much like sagemode today.

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Chidori True Spear

Prime: Multiple Skewed Spears able to fatallysever multiple organs at once. Imagine had he used this against danzo? he and karin would be dead asap and obito would had retrieved his shisui sharingan eye. but no, plot can't have that now can we?

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Kirin

Prime: No Impractical long prep time.

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Amaterasu

Prime: No slow burning rate on main target.

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tsukuyomi

Prime: Sasuke originally used a watered down version of itachi's tsukuyomi against killer B. but sadly, it has just become retcon as just generic:sharingan, which begs the question. why even bother going MS to trance B in gen?

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Rinnegan

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Prime: Konan, jiraiya, obito, itachi, nagato and madara hypes up rinnegan that can do anything possible including the six path techniques, but so far sasuke has only shown just half of them. and out of the half he did, only used them to half it's potential.



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Sasuke didn't use Tsukuyomi against Killer Bee. It's a manga fact that this genjutsu can only be broken by a Sharingan wielder with Uchiha blood in their veins.

 

[Calpal]

I cannot deny this.

Sasuke at the beginning of part 2 was portrayed as almost being leagues above naruto.
Then suddenly hes weak af against deidara

 

[Amenotejikara]

Sasuke didn't use Tsukuyomi against Killer Bee. It's a manga fact that this genjutsu can only be broken by a Sharingan wielder with Uchiha blood in their veins.

Databook initially stated it required tsukuyomi and amaterasu to use susanoo, which sasuke had.

 

[Nobel]

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[Amenotejikara]

I cannot deny this.

Sasuke at the beginning of part 2 was portrayed as almost being leagues above naruto.
Then suddenly hes weak af against deidara

lol that was the fight that prompted me to make this thread. his curse mark benefit didn't really do much for him at all, except good just enough to block a C2 bomb and itachi's fireball, no speed increase at all like in part 1.

 

[Calpal]

lol that was the fight that prompted me to make this thread. his curse mark benefit didn't really do much for him at all, except good just enough to block a C2 bomb and itachi's fireball, no speed increase at all like in part 1.

yeah,
for how much "power" it was supposed to give him it kind of ended up being just an accessory, or really it was only convenient for him against deidara because it allowed him to fly.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Databook initially stated it required tsukuyomi and amaterasu to use susanoo, which sasuke had.

Key word "initially".

We're all well aware that Sasuke does not have Tsukuyomi. With his left eye he casts the Amaterasu and with his right eye he can manipulate the shape. THose are Sasuke's two abilities, there is no space for Tsukuyomi.

Like I said, Tsukuyomi can only be broken by a Sharingan wielder that's an Uchiha.

 

[SixPathsMike101]

He can probably only use half of the rinnegan techniques because hmm i dunno, he only has 1 rinnegan. That or he just hasnt been shown to use the other techs yet

 

[SixPathsMike101]

Key word "initially".

We're all well aware that Sasuke does not have Tsukuyomi. With his left eye he casts the Amaterasu and with his right eye he can manipulate the shape. THose are Sasuke's two abilities, there is no space for Tsukuyomi.

Like I said, Tsukuyomi can only be broken by a Sharingan wielder that's an Uchiha.

Didn't he use tsukoyomi to fool danzo into thinking he had another izanagi left? wasn't it stated by danzo that sasuke's tsukoyomi was weak in comparison to Itachi's? Was it not later stated that to use susano'o you just have to have two of the same mangekyo?

 

[Amenotejikara]

yeah,
for how much "power" it was supposed to give him it kind of ended up being just an accessory, or really it was only convenient for him against deidara because it allowed him to fly.

exactly. I was originally under the impression that like sage mode or kyuubi chakra mode, the curse seal would multiply sasuke's power or stack his base power would be the correct term. I suppose he trained so hard in base (regular sasuke) that he filled in the gap that was suppose to be curse mark. I guess orochimaru intended it to just be a temp boost until he was strong enough to not need it. which (imo) sucks, I'd rather have that guaranteed multiplier. I doubt itachi would had to of held back as much as he did if that were the case.

He can probably only use half of the rinnegan techniques because hmm i dunno, he only has 1 rinnegan. That or he just hasnt been shown to use the other techs yet

Honestly I'm perfectly okay with the half idea my only beef is that he refused to show the full potential of the ones he has shown. the nerf could not be more obvious and at this point a **** slap from kishi. like he doesn't even try to be clever anymore. (if he ever was to begin with)

 

[Uchihakil]

2017 and people still think sasuke has tsukiyomi *smh*

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

:elmo:

 

[To Whatever]

Prime Hiruzen is the most nerfed.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

2017 and people still think sasuke has tsukiyomi *smh*

Back in the day people had good reason to believe Sasuke had tsukuyomi because it was said to be unlocked by getting amaterasu and tsukuyomi and was the third power (other 2 being ama and tsukuyomi). Kishi retconned it.

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DB3 says susanoo is availabe to those who mastered ama and tsukuyomi

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Back in the day people had good reason to believe Sasuke had tsukuyomi because it was said to be unlocked by getting amaterasu and tsukuyomi and was the third power (other 2 being ama and tsukuyomi). Kishi retconned it.

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DB3 says susanoo is availabe to those who mastered ama and tsukuyomi

because itachi was the only one to use susanoo at the time you moron...killer b broke out of sasuke's sharingan genjutsu at it was confirmed IN PART 1 that only an uchiha could have done so...so you KNOW sasuke never had anything even close to itachi's tsukuyomi...DANZO EVEN STATED THIS IN THEIR FIGHT...get the hell outta here with that "retcon" bullshit

 

[UnknownJin]

haterz gonna hate

 

[Amenotejikara]

2017 and people still think sasuke has tsukiyomi *smh*

2017 and people still don't know what retcon mean. *smh*

Back in the day people had good reason to believe Sasuke had tsukuyomi because it was said to be unlocked by getting amaterasu and tsukuyomi and was the third power (other 2 being ama and tsukuyomi). Kishi retconned it.

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DB3 says susanoo is availabe to those who mastered ama and tsukuyomi

exactly. databook credibility is a joke tbh, if it legitimately wasn't retcon it would not had been so detailed as it was, it could've easily just said those who possess two mangekyou eyes can awaken susanoo and that's it. there was zero quotes in the manga that even implied it required those two abilities so there is zero reason that would prompt the databook to even suggest it unless it had a reason to.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

exactly. Databook credibility is a joke tbh, if it legitimately wasn't retcon it would not had been so detailed as it was, it could've easily just said those who possess two mangekyou eyes can awaken susanoo and that's it. There was zero quotes in the manga that even implied it required those two abilities so there is zero reason that would prompt the databook to even suggest it unless it had a reason to.

because itachi was the only one to use susanoo at the time you moron

 

[whiteboy2345]

because itachi was the only one to use susanoo at the time you moron

That still doesn't mean that those are the requirements. He simply stated that once he awakened these two powers, a third would be granted, he never said that it was the rule for all Mangekyo users. If you don't have the reasoning skills to figure it out, then I don't know what to say.